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What would happen financially if the US went to war with China?

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The only thing I read in that is Japan threatening to shoot down Chinese aircraft. PRC hasn't threatened to shoot anyone down they've only indicated they want aircraft to register with them before entering the airspace- which Japan already does as well, and somehow half the people on here think China is trying to start a war with the US.

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I see little difference in what China is doing vs what Japan is doing. Japan has no more claim to the "islands" than China does. Besides, the US couldn't afford to fight China anymore than China can afford to fight the US. Do you all have any idea what kind of money it would cost to fight a war against China? That is a big country and you're talking insane amounts of redeployment of air power - a ground invasion is totally unrealistic by any stretch. The whole talk of war is absolutely absurd.
 
Japan is weak right now in physical terms. The tsunami, demographics, their economy, etc.

China knows it and is bullying them, plain and simple.

The islands are of no strategic importance China is trying to shake them down for their lunch money.
 
Puma read the other thread to see what's going on as this is a completely different tread to be talking about that when we have the other one that is appropriate.

It's a lot more then just the aircraft registering and even then tossing up something like that over someone else's territory is not a good thing nor is trying to steal land belonging to others like china is trying to do.
 
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gevorg said:
That's nearly impossible. We *might* handle a handful of launches from North Korea or Iran, but a country like China will easily overwhelm any missile defense, not to mention that they have the $$$ to R&D anti-missile defense techniques like changing projectile path in-flight, using dozens of warheads on one missile, EMP protection, etc. Historically, offensive weapons were always ahead of defensive weapons.
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I had read that our strategy against a possible Chinese nuclear strike is to mirv their launch sites before they even leave the ground. From what I gather, they basically wouldn't have a chance to launch.
 
zinfamous said:
I had read that our strategy against a possible Chinese nuclear strike is to mirv their launch sites before they even leave the ground. From what I gather, they basically wouldn't have a chance to launch.
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If a pre-emptive strike did happen; it would take 20-30 minutes to complete.
And I do not think it would be a nuclear strike.
Also, Russia would be warned before launch.

Now if we can launch within 20 minutes, I would expect that China could also.

If we used cruise missiles from a sea borne platform and/or air launched; the initial reaction time would be 5-10 minutes. Still enough for some telephone poles to get into the air.
 
IntoxicatedPuma said:
The only thing I read in that is Japan threatening to shoot down Chinese aircraft. PRC hasn't threatened to shoot anyone down they've only indicated they want aircraft to register with them before entering the airspace- which Japan already does as well, and somehow half the people on here think China is trying to start a war with the US.

I see little difference in what China is doing vs what Japan is doing. Japan has no more claim to the "islands" than China does. Besides, the US couldn't afford to fight China anymore than China can afford to fight the US. Do you all have any idea what kind of money it would cost to fight a war against China? That is a big country and you're talking insane amounts of redeployment of air power - a ground invasion is totally unrealistic by any stretch. The whole talk of war is absolutely absurd.
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Big differences between china and Japan (since after WWII and the creation of commie china in 1949).

Japan did not attack and annex its neighbors such as Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia as china did.

Japan did not attack its neighbors such as Vietnam and India as china did.

Japan did not declare almost the whole sea (90%) as its own as china is doing with South of china Sea because of some pathetic and laughable reasons such as "historic evidences" and faked maps.

Japan does not bully its smaller neighbors and took territories from them as china did with Vietnam at Paracel Islands and parts of Spratly and with Philippines at Scarborough Shoal.

Japan did not attack, capture, and then demand ransom money from poor and unarmed fishermen as china did.

Japan did not harrash unarmed survey ships and airplanes as china did.

Do you want me to go on?

Do you see why people around the world do not look at china with much love from the actions they have taken for years?

Try to follow the facts that I provided in the thread that Newbie posted. Hopefully, you can learn something like 2timer did.
 
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But China isn't imperialistic! lol... they just use any ancient map or story that supports the unifying Chinese territory narrative.
 
EagleKeeper said:
If a pre-emptive strike did happen; it would take 20-30 minutes to complete.
And I do not think it would be a nuclear strike.
Also, Russia would be warned before launch.

Now if we can launch within 20 minutes, I would expect that China could also.

If we used cruise missiles from a sea borne platform and/or air launched; the initial reaction time would be 5-10 minutes. Still enough for some telephone poles to get into the air.
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Pretty much this. Unfortunately this is the inevitable consequence between two warring nuclear powers. Once these ICBM's get into orbit, they're pretty much impossible to shoot down.
 
If no one else is gonna say it . . .

Asking "What would happen financially if the US went to war with China?" is akin to asking "What would happen to my iPod if I'm hit by a train?"
 
werepossum said:
If no one else is gonna say it . . .

Asking "What would happen financially if the US went to war with China?" is akin to asking "What would happen to my iPod if I'm hit by a train?"
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How many iPods are being replaced up in the Bronx?:hmm:
 
The U.S. has 19 Aircraft-carriers, over 200 ships, 25,000 ICBMs and Submarine-based ICBMs, 20,000 tanks, 7,700 fighter jets. China is no match for the world's first-ever Hyper Power.
 
FalseChristian said:
The U.S. has 19 Aircraft-carriers, over 200 ships, 25,000 ICBMs and Submarine-based ICBMs, 20,000 tanks, 7,700 fighter jets. China is no match for the world's first-ever Hyper Power.
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Pretty much, although getting all that stuff to China depends on China loaning us gas money.
 
FalseChristian said:
The U.S. has 19 Aircraft-carriers, over 200 ships, 25,000 ICBMs and Submarine-based ICBMs, 20,000 tanks, 7,700 fighter jets. China is no match for the world's first-ever Hyper Power.
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Suspect that it is 25K warheads, not missiles.
 
theevilsharpie said:
Lulz.

If China wasn't able to buy our treasuries, the value of their currency would increase, and their export market (as well as their overall economy) would collapse. China is as dependent on us as we are on them.
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In a sense it's like globalization is a back door solution for international peace. :hmm:
 
EagleKeeper said:
Suspect that it is 25K warheads, not missiles.
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7700 is the number of us warheads.
I can't link it cause the url is too long to see on my stupid Nook and cutting and pasting i near impossible.

Think SALT and START. Causes random visits to the facility I work at.
 
dawheat said:
How long would China survive without the ability to import any oil? Do they have a strategic reserve?
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They are in the process of getting natural gas from Russia via Siberia and oil and gas from the "*stans" nations in the Northwest but the process is not going well.
 
FalseChristian said:
The U.S. has 19 Aircraft-carriers, over 200 ships, 25,000 ICBMs and Submarine-based ICBMs, 20,000 tanks, 7,700 fighter jets. China is no match for the world's first-ever Hyper Power.
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yeah and with all that and 12 years they still couldnt conquer a third world country like afghanistan. the us could never defeat a country like china or russia, the best they could hope for would be an endless stalemate that would be a lot more painful because theyd have an adversary that was actually fighting back. real superpower war isnt like bullying falklands, panama, iraq etc...
 
OBLAMA2009 said:
yeah and with all that and 12 years they still couldnt conquer a third world country like afghanistan. the us could never defeat a country like china or russia, the best they could hope for would be an endless stalemate that would be a lot more painful because theyd have an adversary that was actually fighting back. real superpower war isnt like bullying falklands, panama, iraq etc...
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Like most fools; you are unable to separate the defeat of a military force vs the rebuilding of a country that does not want to be rebuilt.

And as long as you like comparisons; how long did it take the Soviets (which are more ruthless) to conquer that country?
 
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China sits about as far from the Middle East as the US sits from the Tar Sands. The US would have to prevent them from simply invading there. So it becomes a 2 Front war with a Nation that can raise an Infantry force that dwarfs whatever the US can raise.

Other nations, like Russia, would get dragged into it on one side or the other. NATO would support the US. In short, this would lead to a World War if Russia sides with China. Not something anyone should wish to happen.
 
sandorski said:
China sits about as far from the Middle East as the US sits from the Tar Sands. The US would have to prevent them from simply invading there. So it becomes a 2 Front war with a Nation that can raise an Infantry force that dwarfs whatever the US can raise.

Other nations, like Russia, would get dragged into it on one side or the other. NATO would support the US. In short, this would lead to a World War if Russia sides with China. Not something anyone should wish to happen.
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The pipelines do not exist to bring the oil to China.
Still comes by sea.

And to support the invasion by land requires an extensive supply line. Something that China has no experience with.
 
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