What Would Be A Better Term Than Artificial Intelligence?

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Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Peter F. Hamilton's Pandora's Star and the sequel Judas Unchained has a character called the SI, or Sentient Intelligence.

Hm. That makes sense. The important thing is sentience, otherwise it's nothing more than a machine. I've noticed that a lot of people don't distinguish between a machine and a sentient being-- they think there are moral implications for something like AIBO
 

sindows

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What would happen if we all got together to write a bunch of stories regarding the way "created intelligence" should behave? I'm pretty sure we need to include some father-figure type as an example. Anyone want to name him/her/it?
 
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SlitheryDee

What's a short wording for "A system capable of logical decision making created as a tool by and for the use of intelligent beings by means other than those involved in the reproduction of said beings"?
 
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Originally posted by: QED
"Vaporware Intelligence".

In my humble opinion, the kind of "intelligence" hinted at in the article will never be a reality for computers. Real intelligence is as much creativity as it is brain processing power. Almost all AI algorithms are brute-force methods, in which the computer searches thousands of solutions or situations a second instead of actually "thinking" or "comprehending". The term "artificial intelligence" is actually quite fitting, since the whole notion of a computer being intelligent is just an illusion. Like a bad magic trick, it appears real only to those who don't know any better.

So you know better than the people with PhD's working in this field?

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Simulated Intelligence

There is nothing intelligent about current AI. Intelligence implies the ability to creatively solve problems. Right now it's just complex algorithms, simple stimulus response. It can't come up with new solutions to problems that have not been previously defined and answered.

The word simulated means that it may look intelligent, but it's actually not.

I am not talking about AI as it stands now, but rather in the future when such a thing is achieved, if it is possible.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: QED
"Vaporware Intelligence".

In my humble opinion, the kind of "intelligence" hinted at in the article will never be a reality for computers. Real intelligence is as much creativity as it is brain processing power. Almost all AI algorithms are brute-force methods, in which the computer searches thousands of solutions or situations a second instead of actually "thinking" or "comprehending". The term "artificial intelligence" is actually quite fitting, since the whole notion of a computer being intelligent is just an illusion. Like a bad magic trick, it appears real only to those who don't know any better.
Patience. No one ever would have thought that bacteria could lead to what we have today. Give it a few billion years, and those bacteria lead to intelligent life forms.
We can progress a bit faster than nature can. Give it time. The makers of the first calculators probably never thought that they'd see computers capable of performing billions of operations per second, and to have them in households, becoming disposable appliances.

Patience. :) I think within 100 years, we'll have prototype sentient machines.

The only difference between an intelligent robot and an intelligent person is that one uses transistors (or eventually some kind of optical circuitry), and the other uses cells.

 

QED

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: QED
"Vaporware Intelligence".

In my humble opinion, the kind of "intelligence" hinted at in the article will never be a reality for computers. Real intelligence is as much creativity as it is brain processing power. Almost all AI algorithms are brute-force methods, in which the computer searches thousands of solutions or situations a second instead of actually "thinking" or "comprehending". The term "artificial intelligence" is actually quite fitting, since the whole notion of a computer being intelligent is just an illusion. Like a bad magic trick, it appears real only to those who don't know any better.

So you know better than the people with PhD's working in this field?

Of course not.

I minored in AI in college, and I know the type of AI hinted at in the article is considered the "holy grail" of the field. However, the professors I learned under were in disagreement over whether that goal is actually achievable and from what I understand there is no consensus on the issue in the field. From the limited amount I know, I personally don't believe it is possible. At least, not in our lifetime or our children's lifetime, or our children's children's children's lifetime.


Maybe "not possible" is too strong a term. As Jeff7 pointed out, it's hard to imagine that given millions of years primordial bacteria could evolve into thousands of animal species and eventually even humans-- so I guess anything is possible. Finding a number factoring algorithm that runs in simple polynomial time is also theoretically possible-- it's just I don't see it ever happening.