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What will the Republicans have to do to win in 2008?

Siddhartha

Siddhartha

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What strategies do you expect to see from the Republicans in the next 12 months to win the White House and more seats in the Congress?

Please resist the urge to use the standard ATP&N leftie vs righties cliches.
 
The Republicans know they have to make some changes, as they know they are going to lose in '08.

They need to get back to their ideals of smaller government, lower taxes, and distance themselves from PNAC and nation-building.
 
Paint Hillary in a very negative light.

Good thing is you don't have to lie about her, just make sure that everyone knows about all her faults as well as past scandals.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Paint Hillary in a very negative light.

Good thing is you don't have to lie about her, just make sure that everyone knows about all her faults as well as past scandals.
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A lot of good that will do if her opponent is 9/11 who has a bunch a skeletons in his closet too.

 
I think it would do the repubs a lot of good to do some work to shed that "evil" feeling they have been giving off for awhile now. If they could field a candidate that was focus more on beating the issues than "beating the bitch", I feel they would have a better chance.
 
Does anyone think that the Republicans will use Homosexual marriage or illegal alien issue as a rallying call to their base? Would these issues strike a resonance in the general US elections?
 
All they need to do is shut up and keep smiling, toss a little red meat to the Dems now & then to keep 'em distracted.

The Dems are likely to self-distruct well before election time.
 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Does anyone think that the Republicans will use Homosexual marriage or illegal alien issue as a rallying call to their base? Would these issues strike a resonance in the general US elections?
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Be pretty tough for Rudy to call anyone out about illegal immigration.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Paint Hillary in a very negative light.

Good thing is you don't have to lie about her, just make sure that everyone knows about all her faults as well as past scandals.
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The Problem with that Republican strategy is that anything they can tag Hillary with totally pales in comparison to the damage GWB&co. has done to the country.

The other problem is that Hillary bashing is just preaching to their own choir. Their own choir is trained to sing that tune already and playing to that minority base already converted does nothing. Bashing Hillary only works if independents and centrists democrats buy in. And those groups seem to be giving Hillary a good deal of her support and strength despite all pre-existing Hillary bashing.

And the other minor detail cannot be ignored, Hillary may not be the democratic nominee. And then two decades of Hillary bashing will have gone to waste if Hillary is not the nominee.

In MHO, the GOP deludes only its self if they think they can run on Hillary bashing. Nor does it do this thread justice.
 
Heh. The repubs are already snake-bit, clutching the viper even closer to their chest every day.

They have no strategy beyond the lying, looting, pandering to the fringe, fear- and war- mongering that carried them to this point- and no credibility as to their claims, either... given the keys to the Kingdom, they did exactly the opposite of what they promised.
 
Hope for Democrats to beat themselves. They cannot win if Democrats don't make major mistakes. All of the GOP candidates have fatal flaws that will be front page news once they are nominated and the race is on. The difference between Hillary and them is that Hillary is saving her ammo for the actual fight, these guys are trying so hard to make themselves look tough enough to take on Hillary that they are throwing everything they got at her now.

 
As LL points out, this isn't like a Republican primary, where the candidate who has the most money automatically wins. Quite to the contrary- we're talking about *Democrats*, and almost anything can happen. It's not over 'til it's over, and all this Hillary-trumpeting and bashing is just an attempt by the repubs to pick their opponent, if you know what I mean... They'd obviously prefer her as an adversary.
 
I somewhat wonder if this will later boil down to a GOP that feels compelled to support GWB&co. in a somewhat bittersweet way. Because they have still refused to run away from GWB&co. and now the GOP has painted themselves into a corner.

And they will feel that their best shot lies in saying the ideas of GWB&co and his merry band of neocons were in fact the right medicine for America, but that GWB&co. failed in the area of implementing these ideals in a competent manner. And now the new American medicine is the new and improved candidate who can implement more of same in a competent manner with fewer side effects like vomiting, episodes of psychotic behavior, and other down sides that have typified the last seven years.

The new Nixon did not work for the old Nixon, but it worked for Gerald Ford. And the new Reagan worked for GHB. Especially in the I was not in the loop with Iran Contra part.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Paint Hillary in a very negative light.

Good thing is you don't have to lie about her, just make sure that everyone knows about all her faults as well as past scandals.
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The Problem with that Republican strategy is that anything they can tag Hillary with totally pales in comparison to the damage GWB&co. has done to the country.

The other problem is that Hillary bashing is just preaching to their own choir. Their own choir is trained to sing that tune already and playing to that minority base already converted does nothing. Bashing Hillary only works if independents and centrists democrats buy in. And those groups seem to be giving Hillary a good deal of her support and strength despite all pre-existing Hillary bashing.

And the other minor detail cannot be ignored, Hillary may not be the democratic nominee. And then two decades of Hillary bashing will have gone to waste if Hillary is not the nominee.

In MHO, the GOP deludes only its self if they think they can run on Hillary bashing. Nor does it do this thread justice.
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Bush is not running!!!!!

Also not one of the Republicans running can be tied to Bush either. And niether Rudy or Mitt have anything at all to do with the choice to attack Iraq. Hillary on the other hand voted to approve of the war. It will be very hard for Hillary to tied the problems of Iraq around the neck of the Republican while at the same time pretending she didn't vote for the war, or make very pro-war statements prior to the invasion.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Hope for Democrats to beat themselves. They cannot win if Democrats don't make major mistakes. All of the GOP candidates have fatal flaws that will be front page news once they are nominated and the race is on. The difference between Hillary and them is that Hillary is saving her ammo for the actual fight, these guys are trying so hard to make themselves look tough enough to take on Hillary that they are throwing everything they got at her now.
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What planet do you live on???

The Republicans are not even talking about Hillary.

One of the comments coming out of Hillary's post debate melt down was if she thinks people are beating up on her now just wait till the Republicans turn all their attention her way. I think it was Wolf Blitzer who made that comment as well, not some Republican mouth piece.
 
The above being two totally self delusional posts by non Prof John. GWB may not be running but he will continue to be that crazy aunt in the attic Ross Perot talked about.

Non Prof John, you indeed seem to live on another planet than the planet GWB resides on.

The notion that the GOP can pretend that the last eight years of GWB did not happen is totally absurd. If the shoe fits, wear it is the reality the GOP can't escape in 08.

 
From PJ-

Bush is not running!!!!!
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Might as well be, given the way that the current crop of repub wannabees are sucking up in his wake. There's 9/11, and More Gitmo's, and Fred, Libby's champion... Not to mention that they're all locked into the same money machine that brought Texas scum to the top of the pond in the first place... Their famous unity and discipline now work against any attempts to distance themselves from the current Admin.

It'll take decades for the repubs to untangle themselves from the Bush Legacy, and a whole new pitch to get it done. And, uhh, right now, they're not even trying.

The Republicans are not even talking about Hillary.
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Funny that- seems like that's all the rightwing has at the moment- crowing about her "loss" in the debates, spreading Novak's smears far and wide, referring obliquely to her past, mischaracterizing her vote for the Iraqi war resolution, going on and on about "planted" questions...
 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
What strategies do you expect to see from the Republicans in the next 12 months to win the White House and more seats in the Congress?

Please resist the urge to use the standard ATP&N leftie vs righties cliches.
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Mass resignation?```````😀
 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
What strategies do you expect to see from the Republicans in the next 12 months to win the White House and more seats in the Congress?

Please resist the urge to use the standard ATP&N leftie vs righties cliches.
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Nothing. Just use The new Diebold voting machines like they did in 2000 and 2004 here in FL. (remember the recount fiasco ha!)
yeah they fixed that too.Thanks Sen.Tom Feeney!
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Bush is not running!!!!!

Also not one of the Republicans running can be tied to Bush either. And niether Rudy or Mitt have anything at all to do with the choice to attack Iraq. Hillary on the other hand voted to approve of the war. It will be very hard for Hillary to tied the problems of Iraq around the neck of the Republican while at the same time pretending she didn't vote for the war, or make very pro-war statements prior to the invasion.
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Actually Giuliani has been spending a TON of time bashing Hillary. One of his main campaign points is 'I can beat Hillary'. You might want to check up on what your candidates have been doing before you say things like that.

In addition while none of the candidates are directly tied to Bush they A.) Share the party ID with someone who is in serious contention for being the most hated president in history, and B.) Have all pledged not only to continue (as even some Democrats have... sigh) his policies, but ramp them up even more. Aka. "Double Guantanamo!" and things like that.

So they are very much tied to Bush, and he will weigh them down like a 10 ton anchor.
 
Oh, Profjohn is right on one thing though. I guarantee you will see an attack from the right the likes of which we have never seen in this campaign. They will pull out every possible stop on this one, because they are running scared.

The right has always been good at the politics of personal destruction. You think the Swift Boat thing was bad? That will be nothing in terms of the amount of froth and crazy you're about to see starting in about 4-5 months.
 
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