What will the next Biden avoidable screw up be?

[JEDI]

I'm a Dem but i see simple avoidable screw ups by Biden:

1) Rushing to pull out of Afghanistan without much of a plan

2) Biden gives ok to Covid booster shots before FDA has a chance to approve it. (Biden administration walks it back saying it was always after FDA backing)

2 top FDA officials resigned over the Biden administration's booster-shot plan, saying it insisted on the policy before the agency approved it, reports say

The FDA announced the resignations of Marion Gruber and Philip Krause on Tuesday but didn't give a reason for their exits.

www.businessinsider.com

3) Biden convinces Australia to kill $43B conventional sub deal with France so Australia can buy nuclear subs from US.
- France is very angry about being back stabbed like this from a close ally


WTF easy avoidable screwups.
Are Biden's advisers just Yes men? or just incompetent?

 

[ivwshane]

Shut the fuck up.

When you can actually have a coherent discussion about any of the mentioned topics and actually know what you are talking about, then maybe your premise might have a hint of legitimacy.

 

[KMFJD]

America's uncompromising support for Israel, holding them accountable for illegal settlements being built would be awesome.

 

[K1052]

I still have not heard any explanation whatsoever about how #3 is bad for Biden or America generally other than "press says its bad".

 

[brycejones]

3) Biden convinces Australia to kill $43B conventional sub deal with France so Australia can buy nuclear subs from US.
- France is very angry about being back stabbed like this from a close ally


WTF easy avoidable screwups.
Are Biden's advisers just Yes men? or just incompetent?

This last point is just fucking dumb. US foreign policy is shifting to really dealing with China. Helping Australia with SSNs gives a critical ally in the region far more capability than the deal they had signed with France. Frankly we're going to have to significantly strengthen are our military ties and technology transfers with our allies in the region to counter China's aggressiveness.

 

[Brainonska511]

I still have not heard any explanation whatsoever about how #3 is bad for Biden or America generally other than "press says its bad".

Or even 1. As if leaving Afghanistan was ever going to be some clean affair - we only evacuated over 120k people after the previous administration ground SIVs to a halt, cut a deal with the Taliban without the Afghan government, and then cut forces to reduce future choices- what a failure...

 

[Brainonska511]

Frankly we're going to have to significantly strengthen are our military ties and technology transfers with our allies in the region to counter China's aggressiveness.

Especially after we decided to spike the diplomatic football by stupidly throwing the TPP into the trash.

 

[kt]

I hardly find any of those 3 being a major screw up.

1. Biden has a choice between a rock and a hard place.
2. A big whoopla over nothing. People are dying from COVID and those two officials are going to resign like a petulant child?
3. In the long run, this could be a good strategic move for the US to counter China's aggressiveness in that part of the world. We'll see how it pans out though.

 

[K1052]

Or even 1. As if leaving Afghanistan was ever going to be some clean affair - we only evacuated over 120k people after the previous administration ground SIVs to a halt, cut a deal with the Taliban without the Afghan government, and then cut forces to reduce future choices- what a failure...

Biden's mistake was to say that it was going to be orderly and expressing too much faith in a hopelessly corrupt and feeble Afghan government. Though he was hardly alone in the latter judgement since every other country also did not think it would implode that quickly.

The rest of it is just America being upset about the inevitable finally happening and a press who's pissed another conflict is winding down.

 

[Amol S.]

The only worst screw up Biden can make, would be not to run for 2024. Let's be honest, there are anti-feminists in America. Kamala Harris would have a hard time to win the 2024 election.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Saw thread title, expected it to be by one of the regular shit for brains right wingers, even after reading the OP still thought that was the case. Good job, OP, we definitely needed more worthless trash threads in here.

 

[Greenman]

I'm a Dem but i see simple avoidable screw ups by Biden:

1) Rushing to pull out of Afghanistan without much of a plan

2) Biden gives ok to Covid booster shots before FDA has a chance to approve it. (Biden administration walks it back saying it was always after FDA backing)

2 top FDA officials resigned over the Biden administration's booster-shot plan, saying it insisted on the policy before the agency approved it, reports say

The FDA announced the resignations of Marion Gruber and Philip Krause on Tuesday but didn't give a reason for their exits.

www.businessinsider.com

3) Biden convinces Australia to kill $43B conventional sub deal with France so Australia can buy nuclear subs from US.
- France is very angry about being back stabbed like this from a close ally


WTF easy avoidable screwups.
Are Biden's advisers just Yes men? or just incompetent?

Heresy!!!

 

[iRONic]

Brilliant retort...

 

[VW MAN]

The only mistake Biden will have wont actually be his fault but he will bear the brunt of the blame and it will seriously affect his reelection chances. What I am talking about is congress inability to pass voting rights and infrastructure.

 

[brycejones]

Brilliant retort...

We have to be charitable. It's the best greenman can do.

 

[iRONic]

No I don't. Fuck that disingenuous asshole.

 

[JEDI]

This last point is just fucking dumb. US foreign policy is shifting to really dealing with China.
Helping Australia with SSNs gives a critical ally in the region far more capability than the deal they had signed with France. Frankly we're going to have to significantly strengthen are our military ties and technology transfers with our allies in the region to counter China's aggressiveness.

is backstabbing one of America's oldest ally's worth the slight advantage of nuclear powered subs over conventional subs?

Also, one of the platforms Biden ran on was repairing international relations with America's allies.

Backstabbing France would be something Trump would do.

 

[trenchfoot]

Biden's enigma:

Repubs: We need enemies, a whole of them both foreign and domestic in order to distract from the fact that we constantly lie to our voters in order to hide the fact that we exclusively represent the interests of the very wealthy of our nation and screw over our working class and poor constituency to that end. We do it so well our middle class and the poor blindly and vociferously defend their right to be suckered and exploited the way they are.

Biden: We represent the interests of ALL of the middle class and the poor, including those of the Repub party by fighting hard to give them social safety net benefits, jobs, better pay, educational opportunities, protections from predatory businesses who place priority on profits over the safety of its consumers yet the Repubs from the middle class and the poor mysteriously want to reject and actually fight hard against our efforts to give them and keep for them the gov't services and benefits we've fought hard for all these past decades.

 

[brycejones]

is backstabbing one of America's oldest ally's worth the slight advantage of nuclear powered subs over conventional subs?

Also, one of the platforms Biden ran on was repairing international relations with America's allies.

Backstabbing France would be something Trump would do.

"slight advantage" - is a clown shoes statement to make about the difference in capability between nuclear and conventional subs.

Also what about strengthening ties with a long standing key ally in a region we're focused on? You're taking an insanely simplistic view.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

is backstabbing one of America's oldest ally's

Backstabbing France would be something

French war-opposition

Following the September 11 attacks by Al-Qaeda and the declaration of a "War on Terror" by President George W. Bush, an invasion of Iraq was proposed. During the United Nations Security Council deliberations, French Minister of Foreign Affairs Dominique de Villepin made it clear France would neither support nor participate in the invasion, and that it would veto any resolution that mandates an invasion of Iraq.[1] Though Russia and China also opposed the invasion, they had not threatened to use their veto power on the security council; as such, France was perceived as the main barrier to the American and British effort to secure a UN mandate for invasion. This caused some Americans to accuse France of betrayal, reigniting prior anti-French sentiment in the United States.

Freedom fries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

And in this thread, it was made clear that French incompetence was the cause of the deal collapse.

News - AUKUS - new Australia/UK/US alliance

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/16/what-is-the-aukus-alliance-and-what-are-its-implications US and UK are helping Australia to get nuclear powered (NOT nuclear armed) submarines. Start of a wider alliance, apparently. The French are pissed because Australia are cancelling a deal...

forums.anandtech.com

 

[MrSquished]

French war-opposition

Following the September 11 attacks by Al-Qaeda and the declaration of a "War on Terror" by President George W. Bush, an invasion of Iraq was proposed. During the United Nations Security Council deliberations, French Minister of Foreign Affairs Dominique de Villepin made it clear France would neither support nor participate in the invasion, and that it would veto any resolution that mandates an invasion of Iraq.[1] Though Russia and China also opposed the invasion, they had not threatened to use their veto power on the security council; as such, France was perceived as the main barrier to the American and British effort to secure a UN mandate for invasion. This caused some Americans to accuse France of betrayal, reigniting prior anti-French sentiment in the United States.

Freedom fries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That was a commendable position by France actually. The war in Iraq was a farce and it's great someone stood up to it.

I also think France is being overly dramatic about the subs. It is in our common interests to keep China in check, and the nuclear subs will do a better job of that.

 

[Greenman]

No I don't. Fuck that disingenuous asshole.

Either I little nerve, or your thong is to tight.

 

[Jhhnn]

"slight advantage" - is a clown shoes statement to make about the difference in capability between nuclear and conventional subs.

Also what about strengthening ties with a long standing key ally in a region we're focused on? You're taking an insanely simplistic view.

He's flailing around in futility, swinging at shadows.

 

[JEDI]

And in this thread, it was made clear that French incompetence was the cause of the deal collapse.

News - AUKUS - new Australia/UK/US alliance

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/16/what-is-the-aukus-alliance-and-what-are-its-implications US and UK are helping Australia to get nuclear powered (NOT nuclear armed) submarines. Start of a wider alliance, apparently. The French are pissed because Australia are cancelling a deal...

forums.anandtech.com

elaborate since the news link in that thread does not explain the French incompetence.

also, US made Australia a deal it could not refuse?
Anyone know if US taxpayers are subsidizing this deal?