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What will I need to burn 1:1 DVD's?

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: bluey
Ya but doesnt it lower the quality or take out menus and stuff?

Oh and I was going to order RIDATA 8X 4.7GB DVD-R for my NEC 8X Black Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive, Model ND-2510A BLK, OEM BULK. Sorry if I seem to be bugging you guys a lot I am trying to order everything at once so it will all be there and ready for me when I get home to build it.

Go check out the DVDshrink site. You can keep the menus or take them out. You can compress the video, remove things or keep it the same.

And if you have a DL burner and DL discs, DVD Decrypter is all you need. Make a DVD image, then burn it to a disc. Thats it.

k great thanks!
 
Originally posted by: bluey
And now that I look at it I think I will go with the nec 3500a.

That is what I just did, just ordered one from the egg , now if I can decide on which software to use........



Edit: where does one go about getting one of these "hacked" bios's?
 
Nah, your all wrong. Best combination of software for backing up DVD's is...

AnyDVD - if you dont know what this does look it up. Runs passively in the background.
CloneDVD2- used to backup image made with DVDShrink.
DVDShrink- makes image.

 
Originally posted by: Luthien
Nah, your all wrong. Best combination of software for backing up DVD's is...

AnyDVD - if you dont know what this does look it up. Runs passively in the background.
CloneDVD2- used to backup image made with DVDShrink.
DVDShrink- makes image.

Respectfully disagree. 😛 DVD Decrypter and DVDshrink is all you need.
 
The latest version of Nero has an addon program called Nero Vision Express Nero Recode or something like that which does exactly what you want.
I think you may still have to rip copyrighted dvds to your harddrive first but thats what anydvd is for
I still like dvd shrink because I think it *shrinks better* than nero (i.e. it allocates a higher percentage for the main movie and less for menus and extras)

that makes a winning combination out of
1) anydvd/dvd decrypter
2) dvd shrink/nero

ps dvd shrink burns using nero so u need that installed as well

just my 2c

 
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Luthien
Nah, your all wrong. Best combination of software for backing up DVD's is...

AnyDVD - if you dont know what this does look it up. Runs passively in the background.
CloneDVD2- used to backup image made with DVDShrink.
DVDShrink- makes image.

Respectfully disagree. 😛 DVD Decrypter and DVDshrink is all you need.
I agree. These 2 progs are awesome. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Btw, there is no such thing as 1:1 copies of commercial DVDs, the blank media that you can buy (or the drive's firmware, I forget which), will not allow you to write to the sectors that contain the decryption keys, that are present on pressed discs. (Unless something has changed that I'm unaware of.) You would need "DVD for Authoring" media and a special drive to burn it, rather than the "DVD for General Use" media that is normally used for data purposes on consumer DVD burners.

That's why you use DVD Decrypter first. It strips off the encryption (and region coding as well), and leaves the rest of the data for you to copy on to a recordable DVD. If you use a DL DVD+R and bitset it to DVD-ROM, most DVD players won't be able to tell the difference between the original and the copy.

Of course right now DL blanks cost almost as much as the original DVDs. so it's pretty much not worth messing with until the prices drop on the media.
 
Very informative and helpful thread.

I just hope the discussion remains legal, otherwise the Mods may lock it up 🙁
 
Originally posted by: zodder
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Luthien
Nah, your all wrong. Best combination of software for backing up DVD's is...

AnyDVD - if you dont know what this does look it up. Runs passively in the background.
CloneDVD2- used to backup image made with DVDShrink.
DVDShrink- makes image.

Respectfully disagree. 😛 DVD Decrypter and DVDshrink is all you need.
I agree. These 2 progs are awesome. 🙂

Exactly, DVD Decrypter and DVD shrink are all you need (I like burning in Nero though 🙂 ).


DVDshrink is the best of everything when you know how to use it.

You can:

-keep the menus and cut out the extras or cut their quality to crap to make more space for the main film
-pick which audio track to keep (99 times out of 100 it will be the English Dolby Digital 5.1 track since DTS, while it sounds beautiful, is on average 3 times larger than DD)
-reauthor the DVD with JUST the film (I recently started doing this since I usually won't watch the extras more than once and this lets you burn most films with 90-100% of the original video quality)

Remember, DVDshrink is necessary because pretty much all new films are on DVD9 (dual layer) discs, which are 8.5GB in size, while blank DVD+/-R discs are 4.7GB (single layer), so you need to compress something to get that movie to fit. Older DVD movies can often be copied 1:1 since they are single layer 4.7GB discs (and thus don't require DVD shrink).


Also note that you can play DVD's off your HD with most DVD player programs: I play DVD movies by just browsing to the main video_ts.ifo file from PowerDVD 5 in Windows and it works like a charm; no need to create and mount images in programs, etc (it's all very easy when you figure it out).

I do the same deal as bluey - keep copies at school because I don't want my originals to be stolen (so they live safely at home). A buddy of mine lost his entire CD collection a few years ago at school and there's nothing he could do about it afterwards 🙁 .

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Btw, there is no such thing as 1:1 copies of commercial DVDs, the blank media that you can buy (or the drive's firmware, I forget which), will not allow you to write to the sectors that contain the decryption keys, that are present on pressed discs. (Unless something has changed that I'm unaware of.) You would need "DVD for Authoring" media and a special drive to burn it, rather than the "DVD for General Use" media that is normally used for data purposes on consumer DVD burners.


^Yeah, but why would you want to copy all that junk that just wastes more time at the beginning anyway? Are people that anal that they think to themselves "I can't watch a copied DVD unless I see the warning telling me distributing copies is illegal" ?
 
For everyone that replied to my post asking why someone would want a 1:1 DVD copy - well, I don't know either... but look at the thread title. 😛 That is what I was replying to.
 
Originally posted by: Trucker61
Ok, just got my new NEC 3500a, can anyone recommend which media to use with it?

you might want to check dvdrhelp.com, they have media lists for burners.
i generally prefer optodisc, but that's just me.
 
To those with the NEC 3500 DVDR drive, would you recommend it over the Pioneer DVDR drives (like the new A08?)
 
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