What will happen

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: tweaker2

And even if those 5 major factors were out of the way, western countries wouldn't ever want to see that happen, they would try the impossible to break any thing like that apart

could it be possible though, that those countries someday might be united under the protective control of the US and its allies as a hedge against china and its expansionist desires?

China is the new superpower, and people know it is coming and there is no way Arabic countries are going to help us do anything against China after all the sht we caused over there.
Heck not even Israel would help us against China, they are already striking deals with China you know

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: RichardE
What will happen is the US bombs Irans nuclear reactor. What will happen if Israel bombs it? I am trying to understand the situation and the reprecusions of it. As far as I can see, If the US bombs, China will retaliate for Iran, and Iran will bomb Iraq. Is Israel does, than Iran and Syria will realiate, but China will stay out of it (as Israel and China share military contracts ect). So from this, it would be better for Bush to push Israel to bomb Iran, to avoid conflict with China.

You're joking right? China will retaliate for Iran? Against who??? US?!?!

If we threaten there Oil, and 100billion dollar deal, as well as there new infratructure, than yes. I think they would rather go to war than let all the worlds oil fall under US hands.

 

[Aimster]

China is not going to go to war with the U.S over Iran.

They are afraid to attack Taiwan because the U.S Navy will own them.

However, China is growing fast and so is their military power. Soon they will not be afraid.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Aimster
China is not going to go to war with the U.S over Iran.

They are afraid to attack Taiwan because the U.S Navy will own them.

However, China is growing fast and so is their military power. Soon they will not be afraid.

Once they reach the point of no return then you will see what they will do, and I hope I am not alive by the time that happens, because they will be paying us favours back big time

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Aimster
China is not going to go to war with the U.S over Iran.

They are afraid to attack Taiwan because the U.S Navy will own them.

However, China is growing fast and so is their military power. Soon they will not be afraid.

Once they reach the point of no return then you will see what they will do, and I hope I am not alive by the time that happens, because they will be paying us favours back big time

I just wonder why global war is your wet dream... I think it's all the feelings of anger and frustration at chronic impotence, both physical and mental.

Cause you can't think like this and consider yourself a compassionate and kind human being.

 

[Aimster]

The world will end..when...

The Arabs finally have the ability to invade and conquer Israel. Israel will have no choice but to use their nuclear weapons. This will cause a devastating blow to the world.

There will be a time when the Arabs will have the ability to destroy Israel

Nobody can deny the fact that Jews will not be able to hold "Israel" forever. Before anyone comments on this know that Jerusalem is a land claimed by Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

- Israel should get rid of their nuclear weapons
- Iran should not build their nuclear weapons.
- The U.N needs to get a stronger force, role in the world. It should not be all U.S.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Aimster
China is not going to go to war with the U.S over Iran.

They are afraid to attack Taiwan because the U.S Navy will own them.

However, China is growing fast and so is their military power. Soon they will not be afraid.

Once they reach the point of no return then you will see what they will do, and I hope I am not alive by the time that happens, because they will be paying us favours back big time

I just wonder why global war is your wet dream... I think it's all the feelings of anger and frustration at chronic impotence, both physical and mental.

Cause you can't think like this and consider yourself a compassionate and kind human being.

Meuge, stop posting idiotic things please. China has a history of being agressive, why are we to think this will change anytime soon? Place that with American agression, Islamic aggression ect. Could it be...just maybe..just maybe....that what he posted was infact the opionion on many people, and the fact he only viewed those opions? Perhaps your ignorance stems from the fact you cannot look at a world picture, but as much as you might love to have the world be all good smelling flowers where we all dance arm in arm, it isn't and will never be.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: RichardE
What will happen is the US bombs Irans nuclear reactor. What will happen if Israel bombs it? I am trying to understand the situation and the reprecusions of it. As far as I can see, If the US bombs, China will retaliate for Iran, and Iran will bomb Iraq. Is Israel does, than Iran and Syria will realiate, but China will stay out of it (as Israel and China share military contracts ect). So from this, it would be better for Bush to push Israel to bomb Iran, to avoid conflict with China.

You're joking right? China will retaliate for Iran? Against who??? US?!?!

If we threaten there Oil, and 100billion dollar deal, as well as there new infratructure, than yes. I think they would rather go to war than let all the worlds oil fall under US hands.

Please explain how bombing Iran's nuclear reactor will put Iran's oil under US hands.

 

[Aimster]

It also looks like the U.S/EU must have paid China/Russia off with some great promises.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10836280/

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Aimster
China is not going to go to war with the U.S over Iran.

They are afraid to attack Taiwan because the U.S Navy will own them.

However, China is growing fast and so is their military power. Soon they will not be afraid.

Once they reach the point of no return then you will see what they will do, and I hope I am not alive by the time that happens, because they will be paying us favours back big time

I just wonder why global war is your wet dream... I think it's all the feelings of anger and frustration at chronic impotence, both physical and mental.

Cause you can't think like this and consider yourself a compassionate and kind human being.

Why do you have to keep bringing up "wet dream" statements into everything you post grow up a bit.

If I am saying I don't want to be there to see it, how is Global War a dream of mine? Usually people want to be there to see their dreams come true you know ?
I am just stating a fact that once China has enough power things are not going to turn out nice that's all.

I do have relatives and family of mine all over the ME , and I know for a fact that my country of origin and family will just perish if even the slightest of wars breaks out.

So again I don't see how you formulate your accusations, care to justify ? Or is it just pure hate that drives you to try and make me look as bad as possible ?

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I do have relatives and family of mine all over the ME , and I know for a fact that my country of origin and family will just perish if even the slightest of wars breaks out.

Mine too. So let's start over with the assumption that I, for one, don't want either my or your family to perish... obviously with a sidenote that mine IS more important to me.

If we operate on that assumption, then it is clear that some sort of negotiation must take place. Any negotiation, however, is a bilateral process. What's happening in the middle east right now, is not a bilateral process, it's one side promising the other that in return for land, and whatever else, they won't kill them. That's not a negotiation, that's blackmail.

Same goes for Iran. What negotiations are we talking about, when it is clear that they have no intention of seizing their efforts to produce nuclear weapons regardless of what they're offered. Actually, it's sort of like the Palestinian leadership... when they promise to end terrorist acts after yet another concession by the Israelis... but after they get what they want, the killing promptly resumes.

So the question is this: what is more important to you - your family's life, or my family's death? If you're a normal person, you'd argue for the former. In that case, I will gladly argue with you.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Aimster
China is not going to go to war with the U.S over Iran.

They are afraid to attack Taiwan because the U.S Navy will own them.

However, China is growing fast and so is their military power. Soon they will not be afraid.

Once they reach the point of no return then you will see what they will do, and I hope I am not alive by the time that happens, because they will be paying us favours back big time

I just wonder why global war is your wet dream... I think it's all the feelings of anger and frustration at chronic impotence, both physical and mental.

Cause you can't think like this and consider yourself a compassionate and kind human being.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. You seem to think it's OK for the U.S. to do whatever it wishes, because _it can_. You will have no room to complain when someone finally gets sick of it and fvcks us up. It's going to happen. Get over it.

 

[bctbct]

I think that many countries will see it as an opportunity to get even with the US. It is inconprehensible to think what might occur.

I dont like the fact that some of the european countries are wanting to back us on this yet wiped their hands on Iraq. Makes me mistrust their intentions.

Does anyone wonder if they are trying to develop weapons? I for one tend to think that if they wanted weapons they would purchase them.

I say we sit back and do nothing. Wait and see if Isreal will do the world a favor. We have too much to lose in this senario.

 

[MSUEngineer]

The US could easily defeat China without really even having to fire a single shot. With over 1 billion mouths to feed and not having sufficient natural resources, a naval blockade would bring China to its knees within a matter of months. China currently has an small blue water navy and would find it very difficult to take on the US Navy. Also, China is importing LOTS of oil, and a naval blockade would essentially cut off much of their oil supply. While starvation of the enemy is cruel and inhumane, it should be considered if an all out war were to occur between the US and China.