What will happen to humans when machines become conscious?

[Moonbeam]

Remember, your answer might become data that will one day be scrutinized and graded.

 

[8008S]

We fscking die.

 

[MI6]

Then i hope i am "AWAKE" and not some powerplant.
My hope/guess is that it will never happen. If it does it will be caboshed so fast in fear of what could happen.

 

[zerogear]

I think that's the day all human population become extinct due to our own ignorance as well as our overwhelming intelligence (oxymoron, I know) ~ Then the machines will no longer be able to repair themselves, and rust away. Afterwards, the animals will rule the world

 

[Moonbeam]

As a result of your grade?

Edit: directed to 8088S

 

[Yeeny]

I think in that case, I will suddenly become very buddy buddy with my washer. I read The Mangler by Stephen King, and I know what those things can do! :Q

 

[Pretender]

Nothing will happen. The fact is, the scale of programming required to make a machine nearly completely free to do as it wishes would take a long time, and while I'm not saying it's impossible, in the time required for this amount of effort to be taken, I'm sure at least one person would remember to put in some sort of safety check in the program to make sure it couldn't go crazy and kill/take over everything. Of cource I'm sure true AI would be tested on a much smaller scale first to make sure there were no major flaws.


Summary of above: Even if machines become 'conscious', which I seriously doubt is possible, humans will never let it get out of control. The fact that we can't comprehend it is fueling our fear of it (which is shown in The Matrix). This, like the Y2K bug, will most likely turn out to be a bunch of fear and hype over nothing.

 

[rc5]

It's okay, as long as they don't run some OS from Micro$oft.

 

[dl]

hmmm...I snip the power cord?

 

[Xzaver]

Did someone say Matrix ?

 

[Batti]

Try reading The Age of Spiritual Machines by Ray Kurzweil for predictions on how likely this is. It may be closer than you think!

 

[noxipoo]

I'll be bach!

love that movie... the second one

 

[RGN]

yup, T2... 8008S summed it up. "we fscking die"

fixed: 8008S name

 

[jhu]

maybe i'll finally have a sex partner. uh, did i just type that?

 

[Moonbeam]

jhu, The OT forum will become even more contentious when, instead of SUV polls, we begin the debate over which of the US Robotics' Victoria Secret models we want. Finally, I'll get interested.

Pretender, Thanks for a serious answer. This subject is hard to take seriously while it is hypothetical, but I'm interested in how people would truly feel about this as a reality. I'm especially interested, but not too much illuminated by the area you summed up in saying that we fear what we don't comprenend. I think we need to look at what this implies; why this is so, etc.

Batti, this was a partial Kurzweil induced post. The Moore's Law stuff is very persuasive. In that veir, Pretended, the required software and chip design, if that's what may be involved, would probably not be done by humans, but precurser machines. I believe at present one programer is only good for about 20 lines of code a day.

 

[dennilfloss]

I bet that those conscious machines will be horny and unstoppable! :Q

Crazy For You (Madonna)

 

[rc5]

The real scary thing is: Once the computers catch up us in intelligence, in 18 months, they will be twice as much smart as we. In 20 years, they will be thousands of times smarter than we and so on.

 

[apoppin]

Do you think by then humans could use learn to use their own brains to full potential?

That would be really awesome. Machines wouldn't stand a chance.


Machinehead (Bush)

 

[kami]

<< I bet that those conscious machines will be horny and unstoppable >>




<< We fscking die. >>



these contradict.

 

[BoberFett]

Moonbeam

You've done this topic before. Please give it a rest.

 

[RSI]

&quot;I think in that case, I will suddenly become very buddy buddy with my washer. I read The Mangler by Stephen King, and I know what those things can do!&quot;

GirlFriday, LMFAO!!! I watched the movie... Oh gawd was that ever horrible.

Why would machines become concious? And if they did, it would just be for logical/practical things, our dishwashers wouldn't start talking and running around, LOL! If they did build human-type clone machine thing with intelligence, there's always the possibility of something going wrong (especially if Bill Gates is involved ) and them killing us all (or just 'performing illegal operations' and becoming disabled).

 

[vi edit]

What seperates man from machine is not logic, but &quot;illogic&quot;. I do not believe that machine will ever reach a point where it can make a truely &quot;illogical&quot; decision. They can program themselves to choose a random decision, but if they have to decide to make a random decision, then is it truely random?

Man can.

Computers can be more intelligent than man, but they will not be as wise. There is a difference. A machine meticulously weighs the pros and cons of situation and picks one based on which has the most &quot;pros&quot;. If that option is not available, then it chooses the next logical one.

Man on the other hand does indeed weigh the pros and cons, and logic would tell us that the one with the most pros would be the right choice, but for some reason, not every person would choose that particular path. Man picks a path based on thier previous experiences, their mental stability, and their desire to prevail the task at hand.

One person, who is less risky would take the logical one. A person who is borderline suicidal or who is a thrill seeker would rise to the challenge and possibly take the last one on the list. Computers will never be able to match this. Sure, in a closed situation containing only a few choices, a computer could match a human; but, in the &quot;big picture&quot; such as the human evolution, the risk takers and the adventuresome will always be one step ahead of the logical and the safe betters. Call it a &quot;gut instinct&quot; if you will. A computer will never be able to mimic this irrationality of man.

Also - I offer this one final bit. Some people have a sixth sense of some sort. Some sort of ability to predict what will happen. For me, I can predict weather fairly well. I can't predict actual temperatures very well, but I can predict the severity of a weather pattern. I can often tell how soon a thunderstorm is going to hit, often as far as two days away. I do this with no weather satellites or no doplar radar. My record of juding rain is far more accurate than any weatherman. It's little things like this that will keep man ahead of machine. While my ability to predict weather may be rather unimportant, another persons abiltity to predict what another person may do may prove far more useful.

And, I believe if challenged, man will be able to improve these &quot;6th&quot; senses far beyond any of us believe.

 

[amok]

Do you really believe that we would ever allow an uncontrollable intelligence loose? So many movies about the dangers of AI's have caused us to become extremely paranoid. That's obvious when you look at the &quot;we will die&quot; responses. We will build in safeguards that are hard-wired to the system. Thus the AI can't cause harm, and it can't create new machines to cause harm. The only critical point will be wrestling away AI's from the military sector. And that will be made easier by the fact that everyone is so paranoid about them, including the military sector.

 

[thebestMAX]

I already am!!!

 

[JellyBaby]

I can't want until Windows becomes sentient. I point out all of its bugs and flaws, it goes into depression and refuses to boot. A week later I make one last attempt and find Windows has commited suicide by wiping my hard drive.