What will Crucial PC2700 overclock to?

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Slickone

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I was planning to get a P4 2.4B and o'c to ~3Ghz or more. Sounds like I'd be safe getting Crucial PC2700, instead of PC3200? Should I get 2 sticks of 256MB, or 1 512MB? Seem's I've read conflicting info saying 1 stick, or 2 smaller sticks overclocks better.

Also is the Crucial better than Samsung?

BTW, Neal Schon's daughter's name is also Aja.
 

Assimilator1

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I don't know about the effects on overclocking but if you are buying a P4 mbrd with the dual channel DDR chipset then your definitly better off with 2x256 allowing you to use both channels:).
If you want to overclock to the max & you can afford it get PC3200:) (I would if I could;))

Don't know about the rest of your questions:eek:

Btw I now have the mbrd & RAM ,all I've got to do now is fit it;)
 

willeyummmm

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i just got my crucial 512mb pc2700 ram and instlaled it. i have a 1.8A cpu b0 stepping and an asus p4s533-e motherboard.

i cannot get any higher than 2400ghz w/o crashing.

my voltage is set at 1.625

the asus motherboard that i hve doesn't have the memory ratio configs in bios. would that be a major factor??
 

althes

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My crucial 2100 would do 175 at default volts and cl2.5. Crucial ram is good.
 

m1ke101

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I had my roommates stick of pc2700 from cnetpc running at 210 at first....ran prime95 for 30 minutes so it was relatively stable :) we were having problems with his hard drive so I didn't get to test it any longer
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Slickone
I was planning to get a P4 2.4B and o'c to ~3Ghz or more. Sounds like I'd be safe getting Crucial PC2700, instead of PC3200? Should I get 2 sticks of 256MB, or 1 512MB? Seem's I've read conflicting info saying 1 stick, or 2 smaller sticks overclocks better.

Also is the Crucial better than Samsung?

BTW, Neal Schon's daughter's name is also Aja.
If you're getting any variant of i845, make it one stick of 512. These boards only take four banks of RAM (one double-sided 512Mb module is two banks) and so it seems prudent to use big modules.

 

Slickone

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So one 512 isn't slower than, and overclocks as well as, two 256's? Maybe what I had read was referring to dual channel. Dunno.
BTW, yes 845PE, no dual channel.

Also I hear sometimes running PC3200 slower than 200Mhz can give you a performance hit, vs. using PC2700 at the same speed?
 

Assimilator1

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Only if the 400 RAM is running at CAS 2.5 & the 333 RAM is running at 2 ,otherwise no.

Well I've finally got Win2k to work with my Nforce2 mbrd & my Maxtor HDD with 15 heads (long story of multiple 'inaccessibly boot device'!
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At CAS 2-2-2-6 the PC2700 RAM seems to be unstable at just 170MHz:( (vdimm is only 2.6v though) ,at CAS 3-2-2-6 I got it upto 185MHz & their was more left to go! ,but I didn't want that high a latency.I'm gonna see how high it'll go at 2.5-2-2-6 ,atm its happy at 172MHz but I'm sure theres more left.

 

Assimilator1

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At 178MHz & all seems fine:)

I tried 181MHz but it wasnt stable ,don't know if it was RAM or CPU atm.
 

MarkFahey

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The Crucial seems very nice, but I am curious when comparing it to a stick of Corsair PC3200 what will the Corsair do? Anyone running the Corsair PC3200? What are your experiences with is?
 

Assimilator1

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Well I upped the vdimm to 2.7v but it still wasnt stable at 181MHz ,CAS 2.5-2-2-6.
I've dropped back down to 2.6v & am running at 179MHz atm ,so far so good.I will probably leave it at this setting now

willeyummmm
Sorry your question got overlooked:eek: ,but I would say you've hit the limit of your CPU ,seeing as its running on a 133MHz FSB ,& if your RAM is running synch'ed/1:1 then its being underclocked!.
What chipset does it have?
 

sluzbenik

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Hmmm...I have 512MB Crucial 2700 and got it to 200MHZ at 2.5,3,3,6 with the voltage on auto without a problem.

I get Prime95 errors really quickly though, but I played some Morrowind ok. If I leave the RAM and voltage on auto I get no errors but the SiSoft memtest goes to like 2100 or something pathetic like that. What the hell does auto do???

I am looking for an FSB of 150...That's all I want to stresss my CPU with stock cooling - and I want a RAM speed that won't produce errors in Prime95 or Memtest...

Anyone got any suggestions? Mobo is P4PE...Should I up the RAM voltage or CPU voltage at 150/187.5? OR just go for anothe ratio...Kind of new to this.

I want at least my stock mem speed of 2550 or so, I don't need to be taking on RDRAM...
 

Assimilator1

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You may be able to hit 200MHz but you are running much higher latencies than I am.

Auto RAM settings will read the SPD chip on the RAM & will run the safest/recommended settings
Auto RAM voltage is self explanatory & won't affect memory scores;)

Btw why on earth do you want 150MHz FSB when your RAM is rated to do 166MHz!?:confused:
I don't know what FSB/RAM ratios your mbrd has but I suggest you start at 166MHz RAM & go up in steps of 3MHz until its unstable ,then go back down 3MHz.That way you'll find the speed limit of your RAM.If possible your rig will run fastest with RAM/FSB synch'ed.
Good luck:)
 

sluzbenik

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Er...I thought the FSB meant the internal CPU speed. What I meant, I want 150x18 on the P4PE=2700MHZ. I don't care what the memory speed ends up being, I just want it to get the same or better scores in the Sisoft memory benchmark as at stock.

I guess I will just have to experiment...Will turning up the RAM voltage help out with errors in Prime95 or should I just lower my speeds?
 

Assimilator1

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lol ,I think we were getting our wires crossed;)

I had assumed you were running a synch'ed FSB/RAM ,my bad:eek:
An yeah FSB is the speed of the bus between CPU & Northbridge (external not internal though).

Ok ,your going to need to experiment to see which gives you the best memory scores.
You want to end up with as high a RAM speed as is stable BUT you also don't want to be running very high latencies as this will negate the performance benefit of the high MHz(as you found out with SSS).
As far as latencies go lower is better ,so 2-2-2-5 is a nice low latency ,worth having but your RAM won't achieve a very high MHz at those settings.
Which btw refer to the table below(numbers available depend upon chipset).A good compromise is 2.5-2-2-6 ,my RAM at these settings can manage 178MHz.
A rather high latency would be 3-3-3-7 & this is going to hurt performance ,don't bother going any higher.

SDRAM CAS Latency: Auto, 2T, 2.5T, 3T
SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 1-7
SDRAM RAS to Precharge Delay: 1-7
SDRAM Active Precharge Delay: 1-15

Whatever your FSB is ,you could start off with a RAM speed of 170MHz ,set the Latencies to 2.5-2-2-6 ,test for stability & then increase the RAM speed in steps of 3MHz & retesting.Once you've hit your limit do an SSS mem test & you can compare to different speeds & settings.

Will turning up the RAM voltage help out with errors in Prime95 or should I just lower my speeds?
It may do ,try it & test it ,if not lower your speed.

If you read though all this thread you'll get at least a rough idea what your RAM can do ,good luck & have fun!;)

 

pbroussard

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Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Well I upped the vdimm to 2.7v but it still wasnt stable at 181MHz ,CAS 2.5-2-2-6. I've dropped back down to 2.6v & am running at 179MHz atm ,so far so good.I will probably leave it at this setting now ?
I've used a burnin procedure that works with Seti that may get that ram going a bit more. Run Seti as usual, then loop Sandra memory burnin by itself, bumping the fsb 1mhz every day or so. The priority of Sandra seems to be lower than Seti, as Seti doesn't slow down much if at all when the mem burnin is running with it. I brought a stick of Corsair from 190 aggressive settings up to 202 fsb 2-2-2-6-1 timings with that method.

Paul

 

sluzbenik

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Right, thanks mate. So should I overclock the RAM while the CPU is at 2700 MHZ (150*18 on P4PE) and play around with the settings, trying to sqeeze out what I can out of it? I guess you would say if I can't get really stable at stock memory speeds at 2700 I will have to take the CPU overclock down, right? I will try your SPD settings first and then see what happens. I haven't screwed with those, I've left them at 2.5,3,3,6. I will be kicking myself if I can't get stable at only 2700MHZ with this RAM...but then it was so much cheaper than Corsair.

Thanks again...
 

Assimilator1

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So should I overclock the RAM while the CPU is at 2700 MHZ (150*18 on P4PE) and play around with the settings, trying to sqeeze out what I can out of it?
Yep

I guess you would say if I can't get really stable at stock memory speeds at 2700 I will have to take the CPU overclock down, right?
Yep ,though you wouldn't be at stock memory speeds would you?

I will try your SPD settings first....
SPD is the automatic setting ,to alter the latencies yourself you need to set 'user define' ,that's what its usually called anyway;)