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What waterboarding looks like ?

The people (comments) on that site are saying it is not that scary. The reporter said it was scary, but he felt fine once the experiment was over.

Here is my take on it. No wonder he felt OK once it was all over -- he knew he was going back to a nice desk job and high salary. And it was a controlled experiment. He could (and did) tap out the second he started feeling trapped.

Imagine how terrifying it would be if it was not an "experiment" and if you knew the torture would begin again the next day

Personally, I think it should be outlawed except in cases where we need to know if there is a nuclear bomb in a US city (i.e. like on the TV show 24). It should not be allowed in ANY "normal" situation.
 
It's probably a lot more frigtening if you are in a secret CIA prison that Condi and GWB have told the world doesn't exist, being Freedom Tickled by people that you know do occasionally beat a prisoner to death "by accident."
 


Torture does not work as an intel gathering method. The Israelis have said this definitively, and they've had far more experience dealing with terrorist threats. They believe the best method is to develop intelligence sources within the terrorist organizations.

Don't believe 24. Those situations do not exist. Our government is far more inept.
 
Originally posted by: LordSegan
The people (comments) on that site are saying it is not that scary. The reporter said it was scary, but he felt fine once the experiment was over.

Here is my take on it. No wonder he felt OK once it was all over -- he knew he was going back to a nice desk job and high salary. And it was a controlled experiment. He could (and did) tap out the second he started feeling trapped.

Imagine how terrifying it would be if it was not an "experiment" and if you knew the torture would begin again the next day

Personally, I think it should be outlawed except in cases where we need to know if there is a nuclear bomb in a US city (i.e. like on the TV show 24). It should not be allowed in ANY "normal" situation.

THe problem with that is that our govt./president can pretty much justify anything with that and say "matter of nat. security etc.. :roll: You can pretty much just point to someone and call them a terrorist and all of a sudden your 'rights' are nothing but a meaningless phrase to these officials.

 
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: LordSegan
The people (comments) on that site are saying it is not that scary. The reporter said it was scary, but he felt fine once the experiment was over.

Here is my take on it. No wonder he felt OK once it was all over -- he knew he was going back to a nice desk job and high salary. And it was a controlled experiment. He could (and did) tap out the second he started feeling trapped.

Imagine how terrifying it would be if it was not an "experiment" and if you knew the torture would begin again the next day

Personally, I think it should be outlawed except in cases where we need to know if there is a nuclear bomb in a US city (i.e. like on the TV show 24). It should not be allowed in ANY "normal" situation.

THe problem with that is that our govt./president can pretty much justify anything with that and say "matter of nat. security etc.. :roll: You can pretty much just point to someone and call them a terrorist and all of a sudden your 'rights' are nothing but a meaningless phrase to these officials.

Torture should not be legal. Still, if the President really believes that a person knows where a ticking nuke is, he should order torture and deal with the consequences later. That would be the right thing to do.
 
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