What was your favorite song to test wow and flutter?

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sandorski

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My favorite test song is "Eagles - Hotel California" I just got a Record player and I can tell if there is too much WOW & Flutter just by hearing the opening of the track
Anyone know how to fix a warped Eagles Record?D:

Sandwich it between 2 heavy objects.
 

CallMeJoe

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Another way to get very good recordings was to use a hifi VHS deck and record audio in only. 20-20kHz response, inaudible W&F, excellent SNR and dynamic range. :)
A much better way was to use a reel-to-reel deck. My Tandberg 3300X at 7.5 ips was indistinguishable from the source.
 

Rubycon

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A much better way was to use a reel-to-reel deck. My Tandberg 3300X at 7.5 ips was indistinguishable from the source.

1) VHS decks were WAY more common then reel to reel recorders. ;)
2) 7½ inches/sec is too slow!
 

CallMeJoe

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1) VHS decks were WAY more common then reel to reel recorders. ;)
2) 7½ inches/sec is too slow!
1) I had my Tandberg long before VHS even existed.
2) 7.5 ips was the top end for consumer units and was quite sufficient with the crossfield bias system.
 

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I still have a Nakimichi TA-2A in excellent condition. The Stasis technology was simply amazing and for 2 channel sound I have yet to hear it's equal, at least not for many thousands of dollars.
 

Rubycon

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1) I had my Tandberg long before VHS even existed.
2) 7.5 ips was the top end for consumer units and was quite sufficient with the crossfield bias system.

To say it's indistinguishable from the source is a bit of a stretch unless your source is not that good. ;)

Then again that long ago most home "hi fi" was hardly that.

Of course I'd take 55dB SNR and 12kHz upper frequency response to these horrid things today called mp3 that are poorly encoded in the first place. People put so much emphasis (pun not intended!) on bit rate rather than the actual encoding process as well as pre/post processing/shaping that's really needed to make the output sound at least half way decent. :)
 

Rubycon

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I still have a Nakimichi TA-2A in excellent condition. The Stasis technology was simply amazing and for 2 channel sound I have yet to hear it's equal, at least not for many thousands of dollars.

That's the ONLY way to enjoy music. ;)

Never owned a Nak receiver before but their cassette decks were state of the art.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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That's the ONLY way to enjoy music. ;)

Never owned a Nak receiver before but their cassette decks were state of the art.

Look up Nelson Pass and Stasis. They still use the same topology, but with 10K amps and such. When Nak lost that was when they started going downhill.

Every now and again you can find one of the TA's on fleabay for a decent price.
 

CallMeJoe

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To say it's indistinguishable from the source is a bit of a stretch unless your source is not that good. ;)
Then again that long ago most home "hi fi" was hardly that.
Of course I'd take 55dB SNR and 12kHz upper frequency response to these horrid things today called mp3 that are poorly encoded in the first place. People put so much emphasis (pun not intended!) on bit rate rather than the actual encoding process as well as pre/post processing/shaping that's really needed to make the output sound at least half way decent. :)
You're obviously unfamiliar with the Tandberg recorders; SNR >60dB, frequency response 30 Hz - 22 KHz, without the necessity of any Dolby or other processing.
 

Rubycon

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You're obviously unfamiliar with the Tandberg recorders; SNR >60dB, frequency response 30 Hz - 22 KHz, without the necessity of any Dolby or other processing.

Actually I am but I'm used to 15/30 ips decks with 10-45kHz response. ;)

My reference to the much lower response was not for your recorder in particular but typical 8 track decks of the time.

In any case the VHS Hifi stereo decks were superior to both.