What was the first computer that you owned that ran on a Microsoft operating system?

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
The first that I owned was a Pentium 100.

The first my family owned was a 486 SX25 IIRC, which we later upgraded to a DX33.

Viper GTS
When you say "upgrade," do you mean you installed one of those overdrive processors?

He could have just upgraded it if it had the coprocessor socket....
I'm a bit rusty on this, but how would a coprocessor socket allow you to go from a 486/25 to a 486/33?
It wouldn't. The math coprocessor was for performing floating-point calculations (it had nothing to do with frequency). So it would in essence turn a 486SX into a 486DX.
 

Chaotic42

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Commodore 64

Edit: I say that because IIRC Microsoft made the "Operating Environment" or whatever for it. If not, then it was a Tandy 1000SL. It had DOS 3.3, 640K of RAM, and no harddrive.
 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
The first that I owned was a Pentium 100.

The first my family owned was a 486 SX25 IIRC, which we later upgraded to a DX33.

Viper GTS
When you say "upgrade," do you mean you installed one of those overdrive processors?

He could have just upgraded it if it had the coprocessor socket....
I'm a bit rusty on this, but how would a coprocessor socket allow you to go from a 486/25 to a 486/33?

If I remember correctly.
The 486 SX25 or SL25 was basically a 386/33 (with out the math coprocessor).
It actual speed was 33mhz but with out the math unit make it funtion about as fast a 25 or 22.5mhz computer with math unit.
The term was muddy because Intel & IBM have their own way of marketing it is like Cyrix/AMD PR rating (DLC, SLC, SLC2, BL2).
They call it a 33mhz once it have the math unit inplace.

However there were the 40mhz & the purebread speed demon 50mhz.
Then there were the 66 DX2 (which I paid $1300.00USD for the sillicon; thanks AMD for making computer afordable) that were just as fast as the Pentium 60 & 66, and almost as fast as Intel Pentium 75mhz.
 

Jugernot

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
The first that I owned was a Pentium 100.

The first my family owned was a 486 SX25 IIRC, which we later upgraded to a DX33.

Viper GTS
When you say "upgrade," do you mean you installed one of those overdrive processors?

He could have just upgraded it if it had the coprocessor socket....
I'm a bit rusty on this, but how would a coprocessor socket allow you to go from a 486/25 to a 486/33?

After thinking about it, you wouldn't need a coprocessor unless then got a sx33 CPU which I don't even think existed.... So they probably just went directly to the DX33.
 

FoBoT

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386DX-33 cpu $? and i bought the math co-processor, don't know why , i doubt i ever had software that used it
200MB hard drive $359
8mb ram $150 per MB (i am pretty sure that was the $)
ms dos 5.0 - win 3.1
14.4kbps modem $275
sound blaster pro sound card
1MB ISA video card (1MB was huge back then)
no cdrom drive, everything came on floppy disk, i had both a 3.5" and 5.25" drive


i can't believe it has been almost ten years!
 

PsychoAndy

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66 mhz 486.

Got it 2 weeks before P1 was unveiled.

Ran dos 6.0 off a 5.0 upgrade and had win 3.1

-PAB
 

UNCjigga

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This one.

Only cost about CDN $6500 with options back in 1987. Came with a 20gb hard drive (later upped to 30gb), 1MB memory (later upped to 3MB), the revolutionary 286 chip (albeit at a measly 8 MHz) and built-in CGA graphics. And the 3-button mouse pwned everything else! Also included peripherals that had a connector similar to USB!! And believe it or not, there are actually two ISA slots in there! Actually managed to hook up a Paradise EGA card and external Packard Bell EGA monitor so I could enjoy King's Quest 3 in 16 color glory!
 

manly

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Originally posted by: lowtech
Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
The first that I owned was a Pentium 100.

The first my family owned was a 486 SX25 IIRC, which we later upgraded to a DX33.

Viper GTS
When you say "upgrade," do you mean you installed one of those overdrive processors?

He could have just upgraded it if it had the coprocessor socket....
Do you mean one of those swank i387 math coprocessor?
Actually, this was a very interesting episode in Intel history.

The 486SX CPUs were identical to DX CPUs, except the on-chip FP (math) coprocessor was disabled. When you bought a "math coprocessor chip" for the 486SX, all it was was a 486DX CPU. This upgrade simply disabled the circuitry to the 486SX CPU. I'm pretty sure I remember the details correctly. That's why it was possible to upgrade from a 486SX-25 to a DX-33. Or even faster CPUs (the Overdrive processors) that ran at a multiplier of the memory clock that is now ubiquitous (prior to that, CPU and memory used to run at the same clock rate).

If I'm not mistaken, this market segmentation experiment of Intel's was quite successful, even if from a technical level it can be called rather shady. Needless to say, it was somewhat of a precursor to the current Celeron/Pentium4/Xeon sales model. Design a chip variant for every sector of the market, and extract maximum profits from customers willing to pay more for performance improvements. In Econ 101 terms, it's called price differentiation.
 

RichieZ

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Hmmm IBM 8086 can't reeven remember what OS it had, booted some version of dos from a 5 1/4" floppy, played awesome games like Kings Quest 1!

Then we got a IBM 286 (dad brought it home from work), some version of dos

Then it was a Gateway 486 DX2 66 (I remember arguing with my dad, he wanted to get a 33SX), haha I remember we invited ppl to come over and see windows 3.1 in all its glory. I loaded up WHere in the world is carmen sandiego and dazzled them

IBM PII 266

Custom 550E@733
Custom 700E@933
Custom Tbird 1.2@1.4

and now that i'm at school and i've found laptop -> good grades
IBM Thinkpad T20 700E (0 hrs of games played this qtr, GPA = 4.0 :D)
 

Shazam

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Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
This one.

Only cost about CDN $6500 with options back in 1987. Came with a 20gb hard drive (later upped to 30gb), 1MB memory (later upped to 3MB), the revolutionary 286 chip (albeit at a measly 8 MHz) and built-in CGA graphics. And the 3-button mouse pwned everything else! Also included peripherals that had a connector similar to USB!! And believe it or not, there are actually two ISA slots in there! Actually managed to hook up a Paradise EGA card and external Packard Bell EGA monitor so I could enjoy King's Quest 3 in 16 color glory!
I hope that was 20mb, because 20gb back then would be more disk storage than what most companies had :)