What was the exit plan on Dec 8th 1941??

OrByte

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are you going to compare WWII to Iraq? Don't. Whatever your intentions are. That's just plain silly.

thanks.
 

Todd33

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Was that when Japan bombed us and we invaed Mexico? I forget how that went, nice troll kiddo.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: OrByte
are you going to compare WWII to Iraq? Don't. Whatever your intentions are. That's just plain silly.

thanks.

Exactly. WWII had real enemies. Iraq has trumped up enemies.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Citrix
just wondering....

Good question. Was it to take over Germany like we and the Russians did?

I wonder if people would have called for an exit plan right after Normandy? Did we have one other than to win the war?
 

dahunan

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Saddam = Hirohito?

Saddam = Hitler?

Saddams military was as powerful and dangerous to World Peace as that of the Nazis and the Japanese?

and lastly

When was the last time Iraq attacked American soil?
 
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Saddam = Hirohito?

Saddam = Hitler?

Saddams military was as powerful and dangerous to World Peace as that of the Nazis and the Japanese?

and lastly

When was the last time Iraq attacked American soil?

I don't want to get into this WWII vs. War on Terror argument... But that was a silly comparison.

When did Germany ever attack American soil? Wasn't it the Japanese? So why did we go after Germany? Oh yeah... because they were allied with Japan.

Why go after Iraq in the war on Terror? Oh yeah... because they had terrorists operating there.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Saddam = Hirohito?

Saddam = Hitler?

Saddams military was as powerful and dangerous to World Peace as that of the Nazis and the Japanese?

and lastly

When was the last time Iraq attacked American soil?

I don't want to get into this WWII vs. War on Terror argument... But that was a silly comparison.

When did Germany ever attack American soil? Wasn't it the Japanese? So why did we go after Germany? Oh yeah... because they were allied with Japan.

Why go after Iraq in the war on Terror? Oh yeah... because they had terrorists operating there.


Where is the proof of the terorists working there? Were they working for Saddam?
 
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Saddam = Hirohito?

Saddam = Hitler?

Saddams military was as powerful and dangerous to World Peace as that of the Nazis and the Japanese?

and lastly

When was the last time Iraq attacked American soil?

I don't want to get into this WWII vs. War on Terror argument... But that was a silly comparison.

When did Germany ever attack American soil? Wasn't it the Japanese? So why did we go after Germany? Oh yeah... because they were allied with Japan.

Why go after Iraq in the war on Terror? Oh yeah... because they had terrorists operating there.


Where is the proof of the terorists working there? Were they working for Saddam?

From the other thread. If I was at home now I'd hit my books and rattle off a few more. What's more, Saddam was paying off palestinian bombers' familes in Israel. He was involved. He housed people who were involved.
CH: Excuse me. When I went to interview Abu Nidal, then the most wanted terrorist in the world, in Baghdad, he was operating out of an Iraqi government office. He was an arm of the Iraqi State, while being the most wanted man in the world. The same is true of the shelter and safe house offered by the Iraqi government, to the murderers of Leon Klinghoffer, and to Mr. Yassin, who mixed the chemicals for the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. How can you know so little about this, and be occupying a chair at the time that you do?"

Mr. Hitchens is entirely correct. Saddam provided "safe haven" for terrorists with "global reach." Among them were terrormaster Abu Nidal, Abdul Rahman Yassin, one of the conspirators in the 1993 WTC bombing, "Khala Khadr al-Salahat, the man who reputedly made the bomb for the Libyans that brought down Pan Am Flight 103 over...Scotland,"Abu Abbas, mastermind of the October 1985 Achille Lauro hijacking and murder of Leon Klinghoffer," & "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, formerly the director of an al Qaeda training base in Afghanistan" who is now believed to be leading Al-Qaeda's forces in Iraq.


Why would they have to work for Saddam? Nobody seems to have a problem with overthrowing the Taliban. Was Osama working for the Afghani government?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Saddam = Hirohito?

Saddam = Hitler?

Saddams military was as powerful and dangerous to World Peace as that of the Nazis and the Japanese?

and lastly

When was the last time Iraq attacked American soil?

I don't want to get into this WWII vs. War on Terror argument... But that was a silly comparison.

When did Germany ever attack American soil? Wasn't it the Japanese? So why did we go after Germany? Oh yeah... because they were allied with Japan.

Why go after Iraq in the war on Terror? Oh yeah... because they had terrorists operating there.


Where is the proof of the terorists working there? Were they working for Saddam?

Abu Nidal... Abu Abbas... Come on... They were there.

Why would they have to work for Saddam? Nobody seems to have a problem with overthrowing the Taliban. Was Osama working for the Afghani government?

Who was the govt of Afg.. was it the Taliban.. Who were supporting Osama?



 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Sorry... edited while you were quoting me.




Dude, we didn't "go after Germany because they were allied with Japan".

After Japan attacked the United States, the U.S. declared war on Japan.

Germany, being an ally of Japan, declared war on the United States.


There is a difference which is important to remember.


It means The U.S. did not attack any nation which hadn't first attacked or otherwise declared war on us.
 

dahunan

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I believe Saddam was paying the families (who were innocent) after the Israelis would destroy their homes... Does this sound like justice or even sanity .. Suicide bomber blows himself up.. so.. what does Israel do.. they find where he/she lived and then destroys the home of his parents and brothers and sisters and grandma and grandpa.. even though they had nothing to do with the blasts...AND this destruction of their homes even destroys the neighbors and others..

Total insanity.. and I can see why someone would want to help them after Israel would do something as horrible as that.

Taliban was the Govt of Afg and they supported Osama.. They were protecting him and allowing him to train there. HE did attack us .. you do remember that.. right?

But these others you speak of.. Did they attack America? Seems to me that they didn't??

One of the first things we did after putting troops on the ground in Iraq was re-open an oil pipeline to Israel.. look it up.. I am not lying..

Any coincidence that PNAC is filled with Jewish Americans?
 

irwincur

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Was that when Japan bombed us and we invaed Mexico? I forget how that went, nice troll kiddo.

You mean when Japan bombed us and we attacked Germany? Germany was not a 'real' threat to us... I mean I can't believe that we pre-emptively attacked the innocent Germans.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Was that when Japan bombed us and we invaed Mexico? I forget how that went, nice troll kiddo.

You mean when Japan bombed us and we attacked Germany? Germany was not a 'real' threat to us... I mean I can't believe that we pre-emptively attacked the innocent Germans.




Guess you didn't read the post above yours...Germany declared war on the United States.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Was that when Japan bombed us and we invaed Mexico? I forget how that went, nice troll kiddo.

You mean when Japan bombed us and we attacked Germany? Germany was not a 'real' threat to us... I mean I can't believe that we pre-emptively attacked the innocent Germans.
As soon as you can link al-queda to Iraq you can make that argument.

I thought we weren't going to compare WWII to Iraq? thats like comparing malaria to a head cold.
 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Was that when Japan bombed us and we invaed Mexico? I forget how that went, nice troll kiddo.

You mean when Japan bombed us and we attacked Germany? Germany was not a 'real' threat to us... I mean I can't believe that we pre-emptively attacked the innocent Germans.


Germany was a very real threat to the US before Pearl Harbor, most Americans tended to not notice as they were being watched by U-Boats as they patrolled the coast and spies on land. They were happy to leave the war as "Europe's Problem". Germany had also tried negotiate with the Mexican government to allow German troops to invade the US from the southwest. Thankfuly the Mexicans had enough sense to tell them to piss off.

As for 1776, there was only one plan. Freedom or death, if the British had managed to quash the uprising every single one of the founding fathers would of been hanged as traitors to the British crown.

Now you can kindly get back to the flamefest.
/marshmallows
 

arsbanned

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Well well well, if it isn't another another lame attempt to justify the unjustifiable by making absurd comparisons between Bush's adventure in Iraq and WWII! Republicans, at least Bush supporters, have no shame. Or pride, apparently.

The big question is, what is the exit plan for this latest Republican talking point barrage?

WWII! War! Terror! 9/11! WWII! Pearl Harbor! Iraq! WMD! 9/11! WMD! TERROR! WWII!
It'd be comical if they were just on the fringe where they belong....
 

IronWing

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At this point in time in WWII, the war was over, won, finished, mission accomplished, the Axis vanquished. There was no need for an exit plan at this point in the conflict.

Why has it taken longer to catch Bin Laden than it took to defeat the Japanese Empire? Why are we discussing exit strategies for a war that should have been resolved years ago?