What was that???

[JeffreyLebowski]

Foxnews
Watch the video called 9/11/01: East Angle - Second Plane Hits Tower

What is that black streak that shoots downward from the 1st tower? I can't find a downloadable version of this so I can enhance the video. Somebody perhaps know of one or how I can DL this one?

I can tell that the "shadow" Starts from off screen in the smoke. Top left corner and shoots down to the right at very high speed. I know it is not a shadow of the plane, because it is in the cear sky.

Any Ideas?

 

[Russ]

It damned sure looks like a missile to me. It's moving too quickly to be simple debris.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Viper GTS]

If it is a missile, where did it go?

Viper GTS

 

[Scootin159]

are you talking that thing off to the left side? the pair of things w/ smoke? I'm guessing those are just debris, or is there something I'm not seeing?

 

[Scootin159]

WHOA!?!?!? I watched the wrong video o), but I see it now...what hte heck? it looks like it has wings...so I'm doubting it's a missle.

 

[ricerx]

This was discussed in an earlier thread. To read, go here Missile?

 

[iamwiz82]

damn, this stupid MP wont let me pause it and then restart. Can anyone rip it?

 

[Zwingle]

That video is in slomo....and that thing goes whizzing by....I said in the other thread that it was probably debris...but I think not.

 

[Russ]

The angle is too sharp, it's moving too quickly, and it is too symmetrical to be simple debris. Either the video is faked, or that is some type of man made projectile.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Balt]

OK, personally I think that's likely some type of debris. Even if you subscribe to the theory that it's a missile, however, where exactly did it detonate? It has to go somewhere and I'm not sure but I don't think missiles shot from planes can be detonated w/o striking something.

Edit: Is it possible it's a propeller shaft? Errrr, well not propeller but the thing in the jet engines that spin. Could it be the shaft of that?

 

[Russ]

I just noticed something else. If you look closely at the video, a brief puff of smoke emerges right after the object goes off the screen.

Balt,

The angle is much sharper then it would be if it were a part of the plane.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Zwingle]

The object is going entirely to fast to be part of the plane or building....missile could have gone into the water. Since it missed....no explosion

 

[Balt]

Zwingle, as many of you have said the descent angle is too sharp. It would not land in the water, it would go through the roof of a building nearby.

 

[thEnEuRoMancER]

This would have been way too big for a missile.

 

[Balt]

Good video (from a different angle). My connection is extremely horrible right now so I can't tell for sure, but I don't see the whatever in this vid. Look under "MSNBC Cable"

Vid from MSNBC

 

[Zwingle]

....unless we know the exact angle, it could have gone in to water. But since the angle of the video is not straight, we can't really tell. I have another video from the other side of the bridge, almost the same angle, but I don't see it in this video....the bridge is in the way at the time the object goes by.....anyone seen any other video....I can put the vid I have on my yahoo site, if anyone wants to see it. Amateur video...lots of cussing.....

 

[Russ]

Balt,

That one is very similar to the other second tower video on the Fox News site; which also does not show the object. Based on the shooting angle, whatever it was could very well be in the foreground out of range of the camera lens.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Mo0o]

if its a missle wouldn't it have hit something?

 

[Russ]

Mo0o,

Note my puff of smoke comment above. It seems that it just might have hit something.

Russ, NCNE

 

[SWScorch]

why in the world do you think its a missile? It is most definitely a piece of debris.

Well, actually, which thing are you talking about?? I see a huge black thing that goes shooting down; it looks as big as the jet itself, and then I see a tiny little projectile trailing white smoke a second or so later. The large black thing seems like its coming out of the smoke of the other building in fact..... not even close to the the plane itself

 

[Russ]

SWScorch,

A perfectly shaped piece of debri moving at several times the speed of the plane and the rest of the debri? How would you explain that?

EDIT: The large black cylindrical object.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Scootin159]

a bug in front of the camera?

 

[Josh]

<< a bug in front of the camera? >>



I'd never like to meet that bug :Q

 

[Harv22222]

If you just try to compare the size of the "object" and the size of the plane before it well... the object is much bigger in comparison. I also noticed that you can sort of see the "shadow" or whatever from the object in the smoke before it gets to the other side of the building. If its a missile, thats one huge missile. Hard to tell

 

[Josh]

it does have a little explosion in the corner afterward....and go here, and look at the last pic it has two little thingies on the end of it...just like a missle :Q