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I was thinking back to my very first self build and the fact that I used an AMD 5x86 @ 133mhz CPU to do the job over a Pentium 100. AMD didn't need to make any excuses for their performance as it clearly dominated the Pentium in every way for a fraction of the price. Later on they released the slot A Athlon and was the first to the 1ghz clock speed still leading the pack in performance. This milestone was short lived and afterwards Intel stepped up their game leaving AMD behind performance wise.
This has been the case for the past two decades now and when I learned of the Ryzen CPU I was so hoping that they'd learned their lessons from past failures and would make good on their promises of a superior performing part when compared to Intel. AMD certainly played up the rhetoric prior to its release to drum up public interest and enthusiast support but once the parts fell into testers hands the truth of the matter was revealed and that is what perplexes me the most. I am a long time user of both Intel and AMD products but I will not make excuses for them when they fail to deliver. I have only been running Intel CPU's since the C2D in my personal systems because they've clearly held the performance lead and now that Ryzen had appeared nothing has changed. I did use a 1090T in my sons build to replace a q9550 build when the motherboard went south.
Yes Ryzen is power efficient, has 8 cores with threading and is a giant leap forward for AMD over previous generations but it isn't the threat to Intel's dominance that they tried to make us believe that it was. I've never seen a new Intel CPU go on sale days after its introduction like this before and I can't remember seeing such sharp attacks on reviewers who don't concur with the party line concerning this CPU. Yes its new with a new support infrastructure that wasn't fully prepared at release. Too many people are seeing anomalies in the motherboards and in the CPU performance which is being responded to by attacking them rather than rationally trying to discover the root cause for them.
If I could tell AMD something I would say that this is exactly how you make potential customers shy away from your products. When you make promises that you cannot deliver on it will not only deter buyers of your products but deflect support as well. It's hard to get vendors to spend time and resources developing supporting products that cannot live up to expectations. I honestly believe that this lackluster performance will be echoed with Vega and once again we will see products that don't meet expectations. In a world where competition is good for the market and consumer we really need a company to step up and deliver a competitive product that can really challenge Intel's unfettered dominance in the CPU market.
I am sure you can fine another one of the current Ryzen thread to voice your disapproval.
There is no need to another one of these such threads.
esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
This has been the case for the past two decades now and when I learned of the Ryzen CPU I was so hoping that they'd learned their lessons from past failures and would make good on their promises of a superior performing part when compared to Intel. AMD certainly played up the rhetoric prior to its release to drum up public interest and enthusiast support but once the parts fell into testers hands the truth of the matter was revealed and that is what perplexes me the most. I am a long time user of both Intel and AMD products but I will not make excuses for them when they fail to deliver. I have only been running Intel CPU's since the C2D in my personal systems because they've clearly held the performance lead and now that Ryzen had appeared nothing has changed. I did use a 1090T in my sons build to replace a q9550 build when the motherboard went south.
Yes Ryzen is power efficient, has 8 cores with threading and is a giant leap forward for AMD over previous generations but it isn't the threat to Intel's dominance that they tried to make us believe that it was. I've never seen a new Intel CPU go on sale days after its introduction like this before and I can't remember seeing such sharp attacks on reviewers who don't concur with the party line concerning this CPU. Yes its new with a new support infrastructure that wasn't fully prepared at release. Too many people are seeing anomalies in the motherboards and in the CPU performance which is being responded to by attacking them rather than rationally trying to discover the root cause for them.
If I could tell AMD something I would say that this is exactly how you make potential customers shy away from your products. When you make promises that you cannot deliver on it will not only deter buyers of your products but deflect support as well. It's hard to get vendors to spend time and resources developing supporting products that cannot live up to expectations. I honestly believe that this lackluster performance will be echoed with Vega and once again we will see products that don't meet expectations. In a world where competition is good for the market and consumer we really need a company to step up and deliver a competitive product that can really challenge Intel's unfettered dominance in the CPU market.
I am sure you can fine another one of the current Ryzen thread to voice your disapproval.
There is no need to another one of these such threads.
esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
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