What version of Linux?

Podolak

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Hello,

I'm a long time Windows O/S user and I've daveled in Linux a little bit. What I am wondering is what version of Linux is best to start out in and what reasons you have for suggesting it. If anyone is willing to help I'd love to hear. Thanks!

-Mike
 

Podolak

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Oh, also I heard slackware was good for ease of use. What do you guys and gals think of slackware?
 

thornc

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What's your level of computer knowledge??
If it's high, you can give Slack a try, also look at Debian and/or Gentoo!
If it's median, you could try RedHat,Mandrake,SuSe(you have to buy this one!)...
If it's low, you can try the SuSe live Eval to get a feeling of what it is and then gain some more knowledge
before trying the others....

and Slack is easy to use, if you know your way around configuration files and you know what you are doing!
 

Podolak

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Well, computer knowledge where linux is concerned is very minimal. But windows and hardware knowledge is high. I am a MCP and work as a Network Technician at a Computer Store. I am definetly not a genius but I can pick up things pretty good. However linux will be like learning a foreign language I suppose. Although I suppose I'm always up for a challange and can hit all of you nice folks here with questions to get me through it.
 

n0cmonkey

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Knoppix and the SuSE live eval cd are ways to see linux from a distance. They are run off of cdrom so no tough installation is necessary. Of course, you do not get a real feel for the system, but if you stilll arent sure you really want to try, this is probably the way to go.

Choices like RedHat, Mandrake, and SuSE are generally what you hear given to newbies looking to dip their toes in the water. These three companies are breaking new ground in usability on the linux front. They each have utilities to help install software and maintain older software. Their gui tools are typically installed on only their systems, so moving to another distribution after using one of these may be sort of a culture shock, especially if you choose one of the other distros I mention. ;) These distros also generally go with bleeding edge, or damn close to it, software. They are also known to modify the default kernels a bit, but its typically not a problem. If you want to use it without necessarily learning much, this is the way to go.

Debian, Gentoo, and Slackware are a different breed:
Slackware wants to be the most "unix-like" and may be tough for some newbies. I personally liked Slackware 7 better than the current RedHat (at the time) because it was tough. I got to do things by hand instead of letting a system that may fail handle them for me. It taught me a lot by forcing me to do things.
Debian is for the GPL nut (yes, I say that just to annoy Nothinman ;)). Debian has a confusing install, if you dont read the instructions. It forces you, like Slackware, to do the work yourself. However, unlike Slackware, Debian has one of the most advancned software installation systems out there, for *any* OS. Using simple front-ends you can select from thousands of software packages, have the software download that package and any dependencies it may have, and install them for you. Typically this is a pain-free procedure. It can also update the base system and all packagess you have installed.

I will take a break for a second before going on to Gentoo to make a quick note abotu both Debian and Slackware. Both of these ditributions are fairly serious. If you want to learn the nitty gritty, this is the way to go. A nice mix of pre-built system, with dependancy on knwoledge. Both distros are a bit behind, but security fixes have been back-ported. They are very stable (even their unstable branches are pretty much production ready).

And on to Gentoo. I have not used this distro yet, but I have heard good things about it. It requires software to be compiled locally (and most of the system from what Im told) using their "emerge" system (similar to BSD ports). It is supposed to be fast (unless you are waiting for software to compile ;)) and fairly stable. They do however, have some fairly bleeding edge software. It sounds like a mix between the Debian/Slack camp and RH/Mandrake/SuSE camp.
 

thornc

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n0cmonkey complete as always...

it's quite simple if you have the time and pantiente try Slack/Debian/Gentoo... if you just want it installed and ready to
go (almost as windows) try RedHat/Mandrake/SuSe... if you just want to see what it is go for SuSe live eval or Knoppix..

Here's a few good links:
DistroWatch
LinuxISO
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: thornc
n0cmonkey complete as always...

it's quite simple if you have the time and pantiente try Slack/Debian/Gentoo... if you just want it installed and ready to
go (almost as windows) try RedHat/Mandrake/SuSe... if you just want to see what it is go for SuSe live eval or Knoppix..

Here's a few good links:
DistroWatch
LinuxISO

Trying to come up with something worth FAQing ;)
 

Podolak

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Ok guys, I decided to try Slackware. However, it does not seem to want to pick up my scsi controller. when I slap an IDE drive in there no problems but with the SCSI we dont' seem to be connecting. Any ideas on where to look for help with that?
 

thornc

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Did you try using one of the scsi kernels??

If you don't have them you can find them on extras directory on the ftp server...
 

Toxic

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I actually prefer SuSe myself, but I started on Slackware, gave Red Hat a shot, moved to Debian then moved on to SuSE. The only distro I really didn't like was Red Hat. I mean it's a good distro and all, but there was just something about it I didn't care for. (Go figure)

SuSE on the other hand, was love at first sight. Yes, it's easy to install, but I already know my way around *nix boxes - we use them at work (Sparcs...SunOS and Solaris)and I've been using Linux for a few years now. I prefer the easy to install route nowadays. For some reason, I always seem to buy the printer my wife wants, and it's almost NEVER supported under Linux (she uses windows). There's an Epson coming in the near future that's going to change this ;)

I haven't used Slack in a while, but I thought it was great when I used it. When I used it, the install was....interesting. It's a good choice for beginners in my book, simply because you have to configure stuff without the aid of a nice interface that does everything for you (or you used to, I assume it's still the same). After you get a feel for Linux, use whatever you want. I do recommend people jump around some of the more popular distros and settle on what you like the best. After all, the installation shouldn't be the only time you are learning something.

Um, I guess I should have had a point, eh? ;)
 

Toxic

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I heard them talking about it on Tech TV, and went to the website to check it out. It looks like XP for sure. Does it work like XP?
 

danzig

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I heard them talking about it on Tech TV, and went to the website to check it out. It looks like XP for sure. Does it work like XP?

It is very Windowsish . I am a Linux noob and had absolutely no problem installing + configuring Lycoris . As soon as it finished installing I went directly to the net and installed Opera and other programs , started browsing my Windows network and streaming files from there . Just generally playing around . The desktop icons are very recognizable to Windows users , similar to My Computer , My Network Places , etc. I think this will be an excellent learning platform for me.
 

thornc

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But remember that the only iso you will find for SuSe it's the live eval demo!
If you want the full thing will have to buy the package or make an ftp install!

By the look of it, it seems that you haven't gotten scsi to work in Slack!