What to do with my 9500 pro

JK949

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Anybody have any ideas on how to sell my 9500pro. i'm not the ebay type
and don't know anybody local ( friends, family) who could use it.
I upgraded to an 9600xt that is faster.
Don't want a good card collecting dust.
any body out there around Mission Viejo ca. need one ?
 

SneakyStuff

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Return the 9600xt, that is not an upgrade from a 9500pro. 9500 pros have a full 8 pipelines, the 9600xt has only 4, the 9500pro can also be soft-modded to a 9700, not to mention that 9600xts are horribly overpriced, don't make the same mistake I did. If you're looking to get an upgrade, get a Geforce FX 5900se here It is the best bang for the buck out there, and it will soundly destroy a 9600xt.
 

JK949

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To late to return it. i bench marked both in the same computer with the same cat drivers
and the 9600xt beat the 9500 pro by 15%.
I used 3dmark 2003 and 2001.
 

SneakyStuff

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sigh, oh well, at any rate, if you can return it, do it, because the 5900se would give you a LOT bigger improvement than 15%

EDIT: And although 3dmark 01, 03 are fun, they are poor substitutes for REAL gaming.
 

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I just traded a guy my 9500np that would softmod to a 9700 and oc to 353/317 for his evga 5900se. Did I upgrade or downgrade? Thanks
 

JK949

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Just for reference my 3d2003 is 3907 and 2001 12,930 with the 9600.
The 9500's were 2221 and 10,745.
Ops. is that 15%. well anyway it is faster

Tested on an xp2500 768 meg of ddr333 mem cl2.5 on an msi kt4vl board
xp home and a 80 gig 8 meg cach western digital hd.
 

memories2002

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are you sure that was a 9500 PRO ?
i get 3600 with my 9500p on athlon 2000 and 512mb ddr266.
something weird with your scores. best case, 9600xt and 9500pro should get similar scores in 3dm..
also, only certain 9500 NON-PROs can be modded to 9700s. no 9500PRO can be modded to 9700.
 

SneakyStuff

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My cousin has his made by ATI- 9500pro running differently, He used the Omega driver.
 

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Originally posted by: dynasty
I just traded a guy my 9500np that would softmod to a 9700 and oc to 353/317 for his evga 5900se. Did I upgrade or downgrade? Thanks

You scored BIG TIME congrats :)
 

nRollo

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Anybody have any ideas on how to sell my 9500pro. i'm not the ebay type
You mean you're not a slow paying, bad packing, false advertising thief? I advise you NOT to sell a vid card on fleabay.
Sell it here in FS/FT, or trade it for a part you need. I'd call it a wash between 9500P and 9600XT, especially as you have a HL2 coupon now?
 

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Originally posted by: JK949
Just for reference my 3d2003 is 3907 and 2001 12,930 with the 9600.
The 9500's were 2221 and 10,745.
Ops. is that 15%. well anyway it is faster

Tested on an xp2500 768 meg of ddr333 mem cl2.5 on an msi kt4vl board
xp home and a 80 gig 8 meg cach western digital hd.
Those scores for your 9500 pro sound way low. In games, a 9500 pro a 9600xt should be close, but the 9500 pro will usually be a little faster.

Originally posted by: dynasty
I just traded a guy my 9500np that would softmod to a 9700 and oc to 353/317 for his evga 5900se. Did I upgrade or downgrade? Thanks
Pretty much a sidegrade. A 9700 should be a little slower in some things and a little faster in other things than the 5900se.

 

JK949

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Yes it's a 9500 pro. the scores are an average of 3 benchmarks each useing the default
setings. the screen res. was 1024x768
 

SneakyStuff

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The really wise thing to do would be to return your 9600XT at all costs, and get a 5900se. You would be SO much happier. :)
 

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My 9500 scored 4263. and that's with my P4 2.0. not with my current P4 2.6. So yeah your score seems pretty low. A moderatly overclocked 9500pro is more than a match to a 9600xt. Only when you overclock the 9600XT does it beat the 9500 PRO and only by a slim lead. Not too shaby for a card tat came out over 2 years ago...

And as nice as artifitial scores are, the 9500pro will probably perform better in games because of it's 8 pipelines, compared to the 9600xt's 4. the 9600xt has to do more work clocked higher than the 9500pro
 

Viper96720

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Actually a 9600XT and 9500Pro perform very similar. Some benches 9500Pro wins other times the 9600XT does. So you didn't really upgrade with the 9600XT though.
 
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Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
sigh, oh well, at any rate, if you can return it, do it, because the 5900se would give you a LOT bigger improvement than 15%

EDIT: And although 3dmark 01, 03 are fun, they are poor substitutes for REAL gaming.

9600XT is still slightly faster in most games

JK949, ygpm
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
the 9500pro can also be soft-modded to a 9700

no it can not. the 9500pro pcb is layed out with a 128bit memory bus and there is nothing you can do to change that. some 9500non-pros are on 9700pcbs, alowing them to be soft moded to 9700s assuming the other 4 pipes on the chip are functional.
 

Viper96720

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Originally posted by: SpaceWalker


according to this chart, going from the 9500pro to a 9600xt is not really an upgrade, more like an even trade...

Some other links:

http://www.rage3d.com/content/reviews/video/ati9600xt/
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=446&pid=1598

Also looks like telling him get a 5900SE wouldn't have been much of an upgrade either depending on video settings. Seems like the 5900's slow down a bunch when AF was enabled.