What to do with 9/11 hijackers' remains

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johnjohn320

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Jesus.. quit bellowing about the "children".. What about the children of the people MURDERED by the extremists here? What about the women MURDERED by the extremists here? You seem to have more compassion for them than our own.

Exactly, which is why we go after the extremists. We kill the extremists that have murdered our women and children. We leave women and children from other countries alone, because they're not the extremists attacking our country. I think you guys are honestly really misunderstanding my arguement here. I'm not even arguing anymore about what to do with the terrorists' remains, I'm just talking about the whole "Wipe the middle east off the map, nuke all their children!" bit.

you'd know that these poor "innocent" children are doing F$CKING SUICIDE RUNS

Hmm....Children are doing suicide runs? I don't think so, bub.

Anyway, read the above paragraph, I'm done for tonight.

I hope you realize tonight as you lay in bed what you're suggesting with such ease and vigor. You want to destroy entire countries and kill civilians because of attacks that have been brought upon your country. Sound familiar? It should. It's what a group of hijackers were trying to do on September 11, 2001.

Good night.
 

Smaulz

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Okay, you know what? I'm done. This is a waste of time. I guess we'll just agree to disagree, because our opinions basically don't matter. JohnJohn & EngineNr9, I'm sorry you guys feel that way, and I sincerely hope and pray to God that neither you nor your loved ones are on the next plane that goes down, or the next bus or car that blows up, or whatever.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
So say the Righteous, "your panties are showing".

Ha! And to think...I can't imagine why people make fun of Americans so often saying we're lazy and stupid...gee whiz...
 

PistachioByAzul

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As long as you let yourself be carried away with anger, you have just as much of the victims blood on your hands as the do the hijackers.
 

PistachioByAzul

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Smaulz, I don't see how one who prays to God can say such hateful things to begin with. Let me plug my Mother Teresa poem again:

People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.

If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.

What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.

The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.

Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.

You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God;

It was never between you and them anyway.

 

Smaulz

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Smaulz, I don't see how one who prays to God can say such hateful things to begin with.

Ya know? It's that attitude that causes people to hate Christians. No where in the bible does it say that once you become saved, you're instantly made perfect. Never once did I claim to be perfect. I'm saved, I consider Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour, and I still sin. There's still a lot of things I do that don't line up with the will of God, and guess what... I'm still working on it. My opinions are MINE... NOT what I read in the bible. I wish that someday I WOULD be perfect and not subject to my own earthly desires and thoughts, but that's not going to happen until I get to heaven. What those people did to us as a nation, and to those families specifically, pissed me off incredibly. So do I think we should nuke 'em? Absolutely. Do I think that's the logical thing to do? No, I'm not stupid. I am, however, quite willing to admit that I wish them all dead, horribly and painfully. I haven't got the whole "forgiveness" thing down yet, obviously. So before you go throwing your holier than thou attitude around, perhaps you might want to question your own salvation and its foundations.
 

Ryan

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I wonder how they would react to us sending the remains back. I think it would send a positive message to the world if we sent them back, and it might even change a few people's views ;)
 

PistachioByAzul

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I'm not a Christian at all, and it's exactly that attitude that makes me think that contemporary Christianity is a perversion of the teachings of Jesus.
 

Nemesis77

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Use them as an example. Meaning:

Even in times of great pain and suffering, we still have the strength to treat those who cause us pain with great care and respect. We are not weak or wicked and mistreat the dead, but we are strong and just and we do the decent thing and send the remains back to their families.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: notfred
fvck the moral high ground...

This is the attitude that's responsible for everything that's wrong in america today.
Everything that is wrong with America today is the seeming complete lack of personal responsibility.

Trip over a curb - sue the town
Get caught robbing a store - bad childhood
Develop lung cancer from a lifetime of ignoring cigarette warning labels - sue the tobacco companies
You kid is a complete sh!t - blame the teachers
Country going to hell - blame the politicians even though you don't vote

That is what is wrong with America today.
 

Peetoeng

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As mentioned in prev post, they are just charred flesh. Call the families, if no one come to claim them then treat them just like any biological waste from hospitals.

Being gung-ho over charred flesh would send a message to whom?
Remember the dead body of US ranger being dragged and trampled on in the street of Mogadishu? Are we going to do the same barbaric grotesqueness and then cheer with pride?

We're not some fourth-world country under warlords!




 

bigben

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
I'm not a Christian at all, and it's exactly that attitude that makes me think that contemporary Christianity is a perversion of the teachings of Jesus.


i def. agree with that. I think the most important thing for Christianit would be to differentiate between culture and christianity. Cultural christianity is diluting the word and making our president into a moral and spiritual leader, something we can't have. I think it a good thing that morals as a society are getting worse, because it makes true christianity stand out. How can people defend wanting to blow up innocents in repsonse to something done to us when Christ pleads for us to turn the cheek?
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: Smaulz
No harm can come from sending back the remains.

Yeah, except the harm to our national pride.. something that used to have meaning around here... Now, I guess it's okay to let other people sucker punch us and walk away unscathed because it's not PC to return the favor. Instead, we'll go out of our way to coddle them and make every effort to ensure they have the opportunity and resources to pop us on the other cheek.

I feel quite the opposite. I think that sending back the remains in a dignified way would boost national pride. It would be a clear statement to EVERYONE that the United States is taking the moral high ground. I think that doing so would not only be proper, but would raise respect for the States in the international community.

Now, I don't advocate making a big deal of it or anything. Just ship the remains back quietly so it gets 2 column inches on page 3 of the paper and be done with it. And know that we did the right thing.
 

shiner

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Everything that is wrong with America today is the seeming complete lack of personal responsibility.

Trip over a curb - sue the town
Get caught robbing a store - bad childhood
Develop lung cancer from a lifetime of ignoring cigarette warning labels - sue the tobacco companies
You kid is a complete sh!t - blame the teachers
Country going to hell - blame the politicians even though you don't vote

That is what is wrong with America today.
Well said!
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: bigben


How can people defend wanting to blow up innocents in repsonse to something done to us when Christ pleads for us to turn the cheek?

I'm an Atheist, but there's a teaching even I can agree with.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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I mourn the dead of 9/11, but I also mourn the fact that Jack Burton, Smaulz and SuperSix didn't die in that attack. Morons like that should have been aborted. But it's never to late to correct the mistake of not doing that. F*cking extremists.
 

shiner

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Morons like that should have been aborted. But it's never to late to correct the mistake of not doing that. F*cking extremists.
Survey says....HYPOCRITE!!!
 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
It takes real strength to swallow pride. Since when has desecrating remains been a noble act anyway?

I agree. Return the remains to the person(s) that it should go to.