Who gives a crap if you're convinced?!? It's the SAME DAMN PEOPLE!! Why the hell wouldn't they do the same thing twice?? So by your logic, we shouldn't bother paying attention to everyone getting on planes after 9/11, because I mean, come on... what are the chances of that happening again?
Who gives a crap if you're convinced?!? It's the SAME DAMN PEOPLE!! Why the hell wouldn't they do the same thing twice?? So by your logic, we shouldn't bother paying attention to everyone getting on planes after 9/11, because I mean, come on... what are the chances of that happening again?
And they are the great satan to us...so just as we should piss in their ashes, they should continue to attack us.
What are we accomplishing by deny something like this? What good does spite do?
What are we accomplishing by deny something like this? What good does spite do?
it's got nothing to do with spite... it's called... come on, say it with me....
"SELF PRESERVATION"
I knew ya could....
Is it just the USA that is wary of the caveman-like mentality in that region?
I'm very lazy so just do me a favor and imagine I compiled a list of all the utterly childish suggestions people have made in this thread.
Now who is guilty of having a "caveman-like mentality"?
I'm very lazy so just do me a favor and imagine I compiled a list of all the utterly childish suggestions people have made in this thread.
Now who is guilty of having a "caveman-like mentality"?
Kadarin
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Normally, I would agree with you, but in this case, I do not. These are Islamist terrorists who did something horrible enough that they have, in my opinion, surrendered their basic rights to be treated as human beings. I say we play by their rules, and do whatever it takes to their remains such that they, in accordance with whatever is written in the Koran, get sent straight to hell. If that means to soak them in pig urine, so be it. Hell, let's videotape it and broadcast it into Saudi Arabia...
Human Dignity, my ass.. If we're going to send the remains back to their families, let's make sure we send them plenty of pig urine, too.
Sending their remains back would be a nice token act of compassion....what does it have to do with self-preservation?
Ask the families of the people brutally MURDERED on 9/11, and the millions of others world-wide that suffer under their radical, inhumane practices.
Why do these creatures deserve more respect in death than our fallen brethren?
johnjohn320
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Well I guess that settles it, hey, we've got nukes, time to blow em all off the map, right? Kill all the women and children, sure what the hell? A lot of em don't like us anyway...
Are you listening to what you're saying? "killing hundreds of US civilians unprovoked..." "gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette", etc. When was the last time you were provoked by the civilians of these Middle-Eastern countries? Yeah, their gov'ts are kinda fvked up, yeah there's definitely a lot of problems and we're not happy with each other, to say the least. I'm not saying we shouldn't be fighting a war. I'm asking you why you think it's such a great idea to slay and murder all the innocent children and women, and men who have nothing to do with anything that's going on between our two nations. The people who are bombing us are pissed because of sh!t are gov't did to theirs. Right or wrong about that in particular, they took their anger at out GOV'T on thousands of our civilians. When that happens, it's a horrible tragedy, but hey, if we kill all their innocent and defenseless because we're mad about what the Taliban did? C'mon...
When did I say ONE man was responsible? Haha you just kinda pulled that out of nowhere, man. Anyway, I'm aware that Osama isn't soley responsible, in fact, we don't even know if he planned 9/11 at all. We know he was tickled to death by it, but he still denies he planned it himself.
Here's basically my arguement in a nutshell: Was 9/11 horrible and unprovoked? Yes. Should we be fighting the bastards who planned and carried out and supported this attack? Yes. Should we kill a 9 year old girl who's just trying to go to school, or a man who just tries to go to work everyday and put on the table for his family? Hell no. It'd be really cool if everyone was ready to kill the bastards who are attacking us, not the civilians who have nothing to do with us. Unfortunately, you all seem ready to kill the school children and women. What can I say? I guess I just have more heart than that. If that makes me a "bleeding heart liberal", so be it. But, as my mom put it when she was talking to me on 9/11 : "You just don't do that. You just don't kill women, you don't kill children." True? I'd agree with that. Apparently it doesn't count if it's not us, though.
Oh, and by the way, if you're gonna sit here and have a political arguement about the Taliban, please learn to spell it. Pick up any newspaper from the past year or so, it's in every one of em in big bold letters.
They kill hundreds of Americans and you pay that back with "compassion?" What the hell is wong with you people? Just be glad you have the military doing what needs to be done so you can stay alive and have that p#ssy attitude! God d@mn, I swear, I don't know which is worse, the terrorist, or the Americans tying our hands behind our backs.
If you removed your head from your ass, and actually KNEW what you were talking about, you would understand.
With the exception of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan (which enjoy such prosperity due in large part to US funds), the living conditions, especially in Afghanistan, are "cave-man" like in comparison with the rest of the industrialized world. No healthcare, no natural resources (Oil countries excluded), no manufacturing, no formal education system, basically no formalized government entity, dung beetles for lunch AND dinner (yes, it's true).. what is NOT "caveman-like" about their cultures? The scary part is, the have huge weapon caches from the Russian occupation, and old.new oil money to fund their war effort, but not for humane uses.
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Well I guess that settles it, hey, we've got nukes, time to blow em all off the map, right? Kill all the women and children, sure what the hell? A lot of em don't like us anyway...Are you listening to what you're saying? "killing hundreds of US civilians unprovoked..." "gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette", etc. When was the last time you were provoked by the civilians of these Middle-Eastern countries? Yeah, their gov'ts are kinda fvked up, yeah there's definitely a lot of problems and we're not happy with each other, to say the least. I'm not saying we shouldn't be fighting a war. I'm asking you why you think it's such a great idea to slay and murder all the innocent children and women, and men who have nothing to do with anything that's going on between our two nations. The people who are bombing us are pissed because of sh!t are gov't did to theirs. Right or wrong about that in particular, they took their anger at out GOV'T on thousands of our civilians. When that happens, it's a horrible tragedy, but hey, if we kill all their innocent and defenseless because we're mad about what the Taliban did? C'mon...When did I say ONE man was responsible? Haha you just kinda pulled that out of nowhere, man. Anyway, I'm aware that Osama isn't soley responsible, in fact, we don't even know if he planned 9/11 at all. We know he was tickled to death by it, but he still denies he planned it himself. Here's basically my arguement in a nutshell: Was 9/11 horrible and unprovoked? Yes. Should we be fighting the bastards who planned and carried out and supported this attack? Yes. Should we kill a 9 year old girl who's just trying to go to school, or a man who just tries to go to work everyday and put on the table for his family? Hell no. It'd be really cool if everyone was ready to kill the bastards who are attacking us, not the civilians who have nothing to do with us. Unfortunately, you all seem ready to kill the school children and women. What can I say? I guess I just have more heart than that. If that makes me a "bleeding heart liberal", so be it. But, as my mom put it when she was talking to me on 9/11 : "You just don't do that. You just don't kill women, you don't kill children." True? I'd agree with that. Apparently it doesn't count if it's not us, though. Oh, and by the way, if you're gonna sit here and have a political arguement about the Taliban, please learn to spell it. Pick up any newspaper from the past year or so, it's in every one of em in big bold letters.
pssst....
Your panties are showing....
If you were born over there, you would be of the same mentality. Likewise, if they were born over here, they would be comfortably oblivious to the profit-over-people&enviroment foreign policy of their consumer driven imperialist government, and how big a role it plays in spawning such "creatures".
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any many will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
No harm can come from sending back the remains.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any many will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
No harm can come from sending back the remains.
johnjohn320
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Wow! Well I sure can tell you, you've convinced me now. You've given me a lot to think about with that arguement, I dunno I may have to change my stance now.
Well I'm glad you're a good hearty, manly American, out to kill some innocent civilians. Cause I can't tell you how big of balls it must take to take the lives of children. Really, I mean, I wish I could live up to your masculinity, not to mention I aspire to your astounding wit as well.
Yeah, except the harm to our national pride.. something that used to have meaning around here... Now, I guess it's okay to let other people sucker punch us and walk away unscathed because it's not PC to return the favor. Instead, we'll go out of our way to coddle them and make every effort to ensure they have the opportunity and resources to pop us on the other cheek.
What is the point in staying alive if you don't even know how to live? If there is to be peace, someone has to start somewhere. It would be doing a great disservice to the victims to not forgive the families of the hijackers and return to them the remains, whether they are grateful or not.
You might wanna check my posts... not one mentions me killing anyone, much less civilians and children.
Johnjohn, so you are going to b!tch about me misspelling Taliban? Give me a freakin' break. That f$cking word shouldn't even be in my vocabulary! It's been so long that I've read about that terrorist group (it pisses me off because some weak person's view, as yourself, is always included now), I've forgotten how to spell it. So sue me.
You want me to sum up my feelings on this? Like I said, "eye for 10,000 eyes." If it were a country with people that weren't ALL jumping at the chance for SOMEONE to inflict some pain on the US, I'd have a different attitude, but like you said, "if you've picked up a paper in the last year" you'd know that these poor "innocent" children are doing F$CKING SUICIDE RUNS and killing several people!! But hey, let's save the "innocent" children and mothers that are rewarded for their childs little suicide run. :disgust:
You want me to sum up my feelings on this? Like I said, "eye for 10,000 eyes." If it were a country with people that weren't ALL jumping at the chance for SOMEONE to inflict some pain on the US, I'd have a different attitude, but like you said, "if you've picked up a paper in the last year" you'd know that these poor "innocent" children are doing F$CKING SUICIDE RUNS and killing several people!! But hey, let's save the "innocent" children and mothers that are rewarded for their childs little suicide run. :disgust:
Jesus.. quit bellowing about the "children".. What about the children of the people MURDERED by the extremists here? What about the women MURDERED by the extremists here? You seem to have more compassion for them than our own.
What about the large amountof you and your family's tax dollars that go to thesethird-world counties to support/aid them? Don't think those funds could serve just a good of a purpose here? Helping the USA's women and children?
Johnjohn320 - LOL!
It takes real strength to swallow pride. Since when has desecrating remains been a noble act anyway?
Holy crap... do you not remember how this all started? My God in Heaven!!! Are you people serious?!@?! And explain to me EXACTLY how it would be a disservice to the victims by not sending back the remains of the people that KILLED THEM....
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