What tier is your degree?

[purbeast0]

Uhhhh... ANY degree has you start off as entry level. If you get a STEM do you go directly to teaching professor, or do you start out as assistant?

You can get a business degree and easily start off at a Big 4 with a damn good salary and climb the ranks to partner within 10 years making $800k+ Most of the other degrees would still be in school finishing their degrees (master/doctorate) and hoping they get a starting job that pays much less.

Simply put, you have no idea what you're talking about in the business world. You're in the socially inept IT world that I deal with all the time.

lol @ the bolded. it's so easy that everybody with a business degree is doing it! that is why we have so many early 30 year olds making $800k a year!

 

[vi edit]

The way I see it with most STEM jobs is that unless you end up going on to be a specialized physician you are looking at safe, decent paying jobs with very constrained ceilings. You'll hit a certain level and then not much room to go up. An engineer of any flavor is going to make a comfortable living, but they'll never be in baller status with their incomes.

Now those guys with banking degrees or marketing that go on to be investment bankers, traders, realtors...they have potential of making more in a year than a engineer could make in 10. But it's not without a lot of risk and effort. They could as easily be living on Ramen noodles and bartending for side money. Same for people with no degree or whatever degree that are successful small business owners. Want more money? Add more customers. Can't do that with more STEM based professions.

 

[IronWing]

No, not really - you're just an idiot that hasn't step foot in a business school.

Every company needs business, unlike specialized science that only pertains to particular industries. Every company has an Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivable, Accounting Department, Marketing Department, Tax Department, and Audit - All of those are just what I have off the top of my head, and they are entire DEPARTMENTS. In addition, those departments need to be managed as well.

My degree was in MIS, which has been absolutely excellent for connecting the socially inept IT departments with business departments to get shit done like implementing new ERPs, ERP bolt-ons, database management, etc... I know it's a crazy concept, but my degree also had multiple coding classes and I use them constantly today. People are floored with the concept of using coding to do every-day business tasks instead of manual processes. Once again, a degree is just a fucking piece of paper.

Business School is just Sociology for douchebags.

 

[repoman0]

Every company needs business, unlike specialized science that only pertains to particular industries. Every company has an Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivable, Accounting Department, Marketing Department, Tax Department, and Audit - All of those are just what I have off the top of my head, and they are entire DEPARTMENTS. In addition, those departments need to be managed as well.

Yeah but then you hate yourself for doing such boring menial soul crushing work.

 

[Jeeebus]

Low tier. I've apparently wasted my life with a law degree. Shuttering the firm today.

 

[purbeast0]

The way I see it with most STEM jobs is that unless you end up going on to be a specialized physician you are looking at safe, decent paying jobs with very constrained ceilings. You'll hit a certain level and then not much room to go up. An engineer of any flavor is going to make a comfortable living, but they'll never be in baller status with their incomes.

Now those guys with banking degrees or marketing that go on to be investment bankers, traders, realtors...they have potential of making more in a year than a engineer could make in 10. But it's not without a lot of risk and effort. They could as easily be living on Ramen noodles and bartending for side money. Same for people with no degree or whatever degree that are successful small business owners. Want more money? Add more customers. Can't do that with more STEM based professions.

you can very easily do that - make new/more software. but you gotta be doing that for yourself where you have a piece of that pie.

 

[dank69]

Your the first person to complain.

I'm in the tier that knows the difference between your and you're, otherwise known as the 5th Grade Tier.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Yeah but then you hate yourself for doing such boring menial soul crushing work.

Actually, I find it to be incredibly exciting because it's constantly changing. I also work with client's and no matter how much you might think it's the same type of work - it's always a different situation with different challenges.

Also I don't find implementing ERP Systems to be "boring menial soul crushing work"

 

[allisolm]

Is it me, or are there more and more titles where they stick some random ass word in front of "engineer" and make it a position?

It's not just you. I am a domestic engineer.

I can't read the OP, so I have no idea what tier I'm in.

 

[ultimatebob]

Oh look... Engineers comparing themselves to Gods again. Cocky bastards.

I have a Computer Science degree from the college of business in my school, which makes it either a top tier or shit tier depending on how you look at it.

I think that I know what tier I would put this ranking list on, anyway.

 

[thestrangebrew1]

I've got a low tier. BA in Geography with an emphasis in GIS lol. At least I was able to find a job in my field right after college.

 

[Apathetic]

Top (BS Comp Sci)

Dave

 

[steppinthrax]

lol @ the bolded. it's so easy that everybody with a business degree is doing it! that is why we have so many early 30 year olds making $800k a year!

He sounds like a fucking idiot. Funny thing, based on what he posted in the other thread (started after this one). He's not making no where next to that.

Those kind of people that "blow the fuck up" what they are doing.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

The way I see it with most STEM jobs is that unless you end up going on to be a specialized physician you are looking at safe, decent paying jobs with very constrained ceilings. You'll hit a certain level and then not much room to go up. An engineer of any flavor is going to make a comfortable living, but they'll never be in baller status with their incomes.

Now those guys with banking degrees or marketing that go on to be investment bankers, traders, realtors...they have potential of making more in a year than a engineer could make in 10. But it's not without a lot of risk and effort. They could as easily be living on Ramen noodles and bartending for side money. Same for people with no degree or whatever degree that are successful small business owners. Want more money? Add more customers. Can't do that with more STEM based professions.

You can have any degree you want but it doesn't matter if you don't put the effort into working/networking/pushing yourself.

 

[steppinthrax]

The way I see it with most STEM jobs is that unless you end up going on to be a specialized physician you are looking at safe, decent paying jobs with very constrained ceilings. You'll hit a certain level and then not much room to go up. An engineer of any flavor is going to make a comfortable living, but they'll never be in baller status with their incomes.

Now those guys with banking degrees or marketing that go on to be investment bankers, traders, realtors...they have potential of making more in a year than a engineer could make in 10. But it's not without a lot of risk and effort. They could as easily be living on Ramen noodles and bartending for side money. Same for people with no degree or whatever degree that are successful small business owners. Want more money? Add more customers. Can't do that with more STEM based professions.

True,

But here is the thing.

Since non-STEM degrees are easier to get. The market is flooded. It's not like the market is flooded with Eng degrees. So you have a lot of competition. You have to work MUCH HARDER to get to the level you are referring too. Yes it's possible. But with a TALLER ladder.

Similar situation. My sister at one point wanted to get into modeling. What kind of qualifications do you need for modeling, NOTHING (just be hot). She goes to one of these expo's. Everybody and their mother was there!!!! They picked maybe 2 to 3 people. Then of those 2 to 3 people that have to compete with 50 other people from other groups. There are so many beautiful women there, it gets to the point where beauty is not even the qualification but who's dick you just sucked in the back room somewhere!!!!!

Yes, I agree, you can make a living out of any discipline. A janitor can get a few of his buddies and open a house cleaning service and score big. There is a dumb ass who runs a website and sells potatoes with personalized messages based on request. He's doing well, he just sits down every day sending Potatoes through the USPS LOL....

 

[steppinthrax]

Business School is just Sociology for douchebags.

When I was in college I did a graduate assistant-ship for a Finance professor. The Professor was making a killing (Korean guy). He worked for the university pulling down around 100K and he had his own business doing import/export of plastics with Korea.

He was smart...

He wanted me to sit in one of his classes. I sat in a few of his courses and proctored exams as well as graded exams.

Least to say, most of the students in the course were glorified dumb asses with huge egos.....

 

[steppinthrax]

You can have any degree you want but it doesn't matter if you don't put the effort into working/networking/pushing yourself.

Agree

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Shit tier, but I suffer from flexibility and work ethic.

I'll never be a CEO - no personality for it, but go ahead and tell these guys they're worthless because they got shit degrees.

http://www.bloomberg.com/bschools/content/may2010/bs20100517_631186.htm

 

[Svnla]

Shit tier, but I suffer from flexibility and work ethic.

I'll never be a CEO - no personality for it, but go ahead and tell these guys they're worthless because they got shit degrees.

http://www.bloomberg.com/bschools/content/may2010/bs20100517_631186.htm

Your post/link confirms my post with link above (#46) about advanced business degree (MBA) from top CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. Look at all the big companies with current/former CEOs with business related degrees such as Chase, HP, GE, etc.

Totally agree with this statement:

Michael Useem, a management professor at Wharton who has studied the intersection of higher education and corporate management, says CEOs and other senior executives need "a general understanding of how everything works," perhaps more so than the kinds of business basics taught in college. "For larger companies and senior positions, an understanding of history, art, and how societies operate are assets," Useem says. "To be effective in the higher reaches of the private sector, some combination of liberal arts and a business degree is the sweet spot."

 

[Ferzerp]

Chem is on the god tier most likely because relatively few chem majors matriculate each year and they are readily employable (albeit at relatively low wage jobs - pHd'S excepted).

Law is on low tier because contrary to popular belief, most lawyers are not rich and in recent years, >50% of new lawyers are unemployed. There has been a serious oversupply of lawyers for the past 5-6 years or so. Couple that with the fact that a law degree is usually extremely expensive to obtain and . . . nuff said.

FWIW - I have a degree in chemistry and a JD.

Yeah, chemistry, unless it is a phD, is pretty worthless.

 

[steppinthrax]

Yeah, chemistry, unless it is a phD, is pretty worthless.

I knew two people with the GOD tier degrees.

Chem and Physics.

One went into the IT field and the other into running his own business.

 

[Humpy]

Shit Tier chart.

Archaeology above Business?

 

[NAC4EV]

 

[Mayne]

my principal thew me against the lockers in high school and kicked me out.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I went to school for 2 years and was going for math & comp sci degree, dropped out and went home to help take care of my sick mom. She got better, and I've been working ever since. Never went back to school.