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What The Texas Abortion Ban Does And What It Means For Other States

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emperus said:
Our outrage machine is broken. The supreme court just decided not to review a case about a law that is undeniably unconstitutional and relies on vigilante justice? This is hair on fire crazy. Where is the proportional outrage?
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I see a lot of women that are pretty outraged.
 
hal2kilo said:
As far as I'm concerned this is the best gift the Republicans have given to get the Dems to the polls in a long time.
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Terry McAuliffe is clobbering the Republican candidate for Governor over the head profusely about this at this very moment.
 
While I am no big fan of our state Gov Newsom and my vote for Biden was lukewarm at best, Republicans didn't hesitate to remind me that voting for the lesser evil is the right vote.

Voted "No" on the recall this morning and mailed it in.
 
pmv said:
Jesusland will have higher population growth, due to being a religious patriarchy. That's usually how that plays out. Religious cultures that ruthlessly control "their" women have far more children. But it will also be poorer, and have trouble supporting those population numbers. Thus there will be mass migration from South to North, over the long term. Will also probably be outbreaks of civil disorder or despotism.
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I've held the belief that if you could force migrate all of the far right conservatives into South, called it "Jesusland", made sure that all of their politicians physically lived there, and then built a sizeable border around it to separate it from the rest of the USA, a few things would happen given enough time:
1) Jesusland would implode economically.
2) Jesusland would have people trying to mass migrate out, only to be stopped by the border.
3) Jesusland would try to start a war with the rest of the USA, simply because the far right always need an enemy to blame their problems on, OR the citizens of Jesusland would hang their own politicians because they would notice that their politicians lived in a part of Jesusland that was basically a gated community separated from the rest of the schmucks.
 
Saylick said:
I've held the belief that if you could force migrate all of the far right conservatives into South, called it "Jesusland", made sure that all of their politicians physically lived there, and then built a sizeable border around it to separate it from the rest of the USA, a few things would happen given enough time:
1) Jesusland would implode economically.
2) Jesusland would have people trying to mass migrate out, only to be stopped by the border.
3) Jesusland would try to start a war with the rest of the USA, simply because the far right always need an enemy to blame their problems on, OR the citizens of Jesusland would hang their own politicians because they would notice that their politicians lived in a part of Jesusland that was basically a gated community separated from the rest of the schmucks.
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- If recent events have shown us anything, its that having more people living in your state is a disadvantage given the national election format.
 
It's ironic that anti-abortion supporters call themselves Pro-Life because they think life ends with the birth of the baby. These so called Pro-Lifers are the first to vote down social programs that will provide a better life for unwanted births. It's cruel and unusual punishment to bring a life into this world just to have him/her/it suffering through life. If they want strict anti-abortion laws, then they should create funding for adoption programs that will give the children a good chance at a better life.

GodisanAtheist said:
While I am no big fan of our state Gov Newsom and my vote for Biden was lukewarm at best, Republicans didn't hesitate to remind me that voting for the lesser evil is the right vote.

Voted "No" on the recall this morning and mailed it in.
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Don't just vote "No" on the recall, make sure you fill in Gavin Newsom name should the recall succeed.
 
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MrSquished said:
I think this will be an issue many folks in Texas will start to think, do I really want to raise my daughter in this type of regressive environment?
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If you can basically nuke rights like this and SCOTUS is going to pretend to be confused because of the legal shenanigans used to make it happen the political bent of the state government you live under becomes a lot more pressing question than it was previously in very tangible terms.
 
K1052 said:
If you can basically nuke rights like this and SCOTUS is going to pretend to be confused because of the legal shenanigans used to make it happen the political bent of the state government you live under becomes a lot more pressing question than it was previously in very tangible terms.
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Pelosi will bring a bill up to codify roe v Wade into law forcing the Republicans hand. Let's see if the Dems can use this manoeuver properly to expose the regressive Republicans.
 
senseamp said:
This is the real payload. Pre viability ban left in place. Roe is gone. Maybe they keeping lanes of retreat open if backlash gets too hot, but sh!t is going to get real. Pelosi is going to force a vote, so Republicans in house will have to choose, suburbanites or Evangelicals, and they need both to win.
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A vote on what?
 
VRAMdemon said:
Plus ... they won't be able to use it as a wedge issue if Roe is no more. "Vote for us because we are fighting to repeal Roe vs Wade". I have one family member who votes Republican every year just for this reason and this reason only.
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Only one? I know scores of single issue abortion voters.
 
senseamp said:
This is the real payload. Pre viability ban left in place. Roe is gone. Maybe they keeping lanes of retreat open if backlash gets too hot, but sh!t is going to get real. Pelosi is going to force a vote, so Republicans in house will have to choose, suburbanites or Evangelicals, and they need both to win.
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???

They'll pick the white evangelical shitbags like they have consistently this whole century.
 
MrSquished said:
A vote on a bill to codify Roe v Wade into law. What else?

www.reuters.com

U.S. House to vote on abortion bill, faces tough path in Senate

The Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives plans to debate and vote on legislation aimed at stopping states from enacting tough anti-abortion regulations like the one in Texas, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Thursday, but the bill's prospects in the Senate were slim.
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It'll get zero republican support and die in the Senate. If people voted republican thinking they'd support abortion rights they are morons.
 
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Zorba said:
It'll get zero republican support and die in the Senate. If should voted republican thinking they'll support abortion rights they are morons.
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Of course it will die in the Senate. The point is to use it as a weapon to show how regressive the Republicans are. That depends on messaging and political marketing skills.
 
MrSquished said:
Of course it will die in the Senate. The point is to use it as a weapon to show how regressive the Republicans are. That depends on messaging and political marketing skills.
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But who doesn't already know Republicans hate abortion rights? There may have been some that believed Roe was safe so they didn't care that republicans were trying to undermine it, but no one is going to be surprised that they all vote no. They'll then go back to there districts and brag about it.
 
Zorba said:
But who doesn't already know Republicans hate abortion rights? There may have been some that believed Roe was safe so they didn't care that republicans were trying to undermine it, but no one is going to be surprised that they all vote no. They'll then go back to there districts and brag about it.
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That's part of the point. And for dems to use it against any R in the midterms.
 
Zorba said:
I just don't see this being a shock to any voter, unless there Dems can actually make original understand it isn't just about "killing" "babies."
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The point is up to now, it was all talk and theoretical. A lot of people, especially women, always knew the R's were anti-choice, but a lot of people never believed Roe would be endangered. Just like so many never believed how evil the GQP was and would be anti-democracy, until it happened. The best weapon the Dems have now is to put the R's on the record as anti-woman, it's no longer a fantasy that Roe v Wade is done. It's a motivating factor.
 
For a party that has recently gone on a tirade against the mask mandates and vaccinations and tried to use "medical privacy" and "the right to make medical decisions for one's self" to justify defying those things, the irony of R's constantly pushing anti-abortion laws is not lost on me.
MrSquished said:
A vote on a bill to codify Roe v Wade into law. What else?

www.reuters.com

U.S. House to vote on abortion bill, faces tough path in Senate

The Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives plans to debate and vote on legislation aimed at stopping states from enacting tough anti-abortion regulations like the one in Texas, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Thursday, but the bill's prospects in the Senate were slim.
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Just for kicks, the Democrats should frame it as 'medical privacy' since the right has recently fallen in love with that idea, circa when masks started to be required and further entrenched when vaccines rolled out.
 
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