- Feb 6, 2002
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Fucking cowards on SCOTUS. They want their Christian authoritarian state but want to offload the dirty work
Paratus
Lifer
- Jun 4, 2004
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Missouri is following suit, except in this case they would allow lawsuits against women leaving the state to get an abortion.
- Oct 8, 2000
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So it's Missouri to Texas
"Here, hold my beer"
Missouri a state that is so pro life they have proposed a right to murder to law and made it illegal for state and local officials to participate in enforcement of federal gun laws.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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Anoint fascists on the court, get a fascist court. Elections have consequences.
We all know why they did it - it’s a policy they agree with. Had the same mechanism been used for gun control it wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes. I still believe SCOTUS will eventually strike down the bounty provision but allowing it to stand at all is a legal disaster.
It’s things like this and Alito’s recent actions on voting rights that show why we need to expand the court. The judiciary is out of control and we need to use the constitution’s checks and balances to rein them back in.
Commodus
Diamond Member
- Oct 9, 2004
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It's disappointing, but entirely expected. One of the key goals of the modern Republican party is to undo Roe v. Wade, and they don't care about the legality of how they get there — not even the Supreme Court justices.
This is part of why there's a strong reason to vote exclusively Democrat on every ticket for the next several years (or more), even if you would prefer Republicans in certain elections. The current Republican apparatus, from Congress to municipal politicians, is focused on enabling policies like this; you won't protect the freedom of women until Democrats hold enough power to enshrine that protection.
I agree that it will be ended, but as you said, it's taking to long. Allowing it to stand for a single day is a disgrace.
That said, I don't have any problem with a time limit on abortion, but six weeks is simply to limited.
Fenixgoon
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2003
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Considering that something like only 1% of abortions are in the 3rd trimester, and usually due to medical complications, why not leave this decision between the woman and her doctor?
Edit: conservatives love championing small government, but somehow in this scenario where the government could easily stay out of it, they find a way to jam the government right in.
Paratus
Lifer
- Jun 4, 2004
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Look having to watch your wanted child spend it’s first and last few hours dying in agony because conservatives believe big government gets to decide is a small price to pay to help Republican Governors get elected to provide tax breaks to billionaires.
Because women really enjoy carrying babies for months and then have an abortion for fun? Abortions that occur later in a pregnancy are not happening because of moral failings on the part of the mother and the government needs to stay the fuck out of what are painful decisions made for very personal reasons.
SMOGZINN
Lifer
- Jun 17, 2005
- 14,341
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You are absolutely right about this. It is an extremely clear indication that this court is very political. The Justices know damn well that they are going to eventually rule against this law. There is no way they can let it stand. So, why let it go into effect at all? Doing so breaks a basic tenant of the Court: Do not let a law go into effect if you do not have compelling reason to think it will withstand review if it might cause irreparable harm to someone.
It was a political statement, not a legal one.
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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Looks like Texas will now be stopped by federal law, says their SCOTUS.
Texas court scuttles key lawsuit over state's abortion ban - POLITICO
Texas court scuttles key lawsuit over state's abortion ban - POLITICO
There’s a bill before the Missouri legislature making it illegal for a woman to have an abortion if she has an ectopic pregnancy.
www.vogue.com
Wanna bet they don’t know what “ectopic” means? All they know, it’s just that some quack has managed to convince them that “reimplanting” the embryo is something that can happen with current technology.
So the choice is, have the abortion and go to jail, or don’t have the abortion and die. In either case, the fetus is not going to survive. Either way it sounds like murder.
Ectopic pregnancy removal isn’t abortion, it’s a life-saving procedure. I’ve never even seen it labeled as abortion, it’s necessary surgery to counteract a (very high risk of) acute abdomen. Who are these cretins.
In Missouri, a New Bill Would Make Aborting an Ectopic Pregnancy Illegal
If signed into law, the consequences of this bill would be dire for pregnant people in Missouri.
Wanna bet they don’t know what “ectopic” means? All they know, it’s just that some quack has managed to convince them that “reimplanting” the embryo is something that can happen with current technology.
So the choice is, have the abortion and go to jail, or don’t have the abortion and die. In either case, the fetus is not going to survive. Either way it sounds like murder.
Ectopic pregnancy removal isn’t abortion, it’s a life-saving procedure. I’ve never even seen it labeled as abortion, it’s necessary surgery to counteract a (very high risk of) acute abdomen. Who are these cretins.
If I’m not mistaken this bill or one like it also makes it a crime to flee the state in order to get an abortion.There’s a bill before the Missouri legislature making it illegal for a woman to have an abortion if she has an ectopic pregnancy.
In Missouri, a New Bill Would Make Aborting an Ectopic Pregnancy Illegal
If signed into law, the consequences of this bill would be dire for pregnant people in Missouri.
Wanna bet they don’t know what “ectopic” means? All they know, it’s just that some quack has managed to convince them that “reimplanting” the embryo is something that can happen with current technology.
So the choice is, have the abortion and go to jail, or don’t have the abortion and die. In either case, the fetus is not going to survive. Either way it sounds like murder.
Ectopic pregnancy removal isn’t abortion, it’s a life-saving procedure. I’ve never even seen it labeled as abortion, it’s necessary surgery to counteract a (very high risk of) acute abdomen. Who are these cretins.
Of course that’s comically unconstitutional but as we’ve already seen that doesn’t matter much anymore.
Using this logic I wonder if democratic states can make it illegal for lawmakers in other states to pass laws limiting abortion access.
Enforceable only by 3rd parties suing in state court. What could wrong? SCOTUS seems totes cool with it.
ivwshane
Lifer
- May 15, 2000
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sportage
Lifer
- Feb 1, 2008
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They don't know what the word abortion means.
That screaming kid sitting behind you on the airplane IS NOT an abortion. Thanks SCOTUS.
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
- 25,718
- 12,039
- 136
This is how my Governor is handling this.
Inslee signs bill prohibiting abortion lawsuits in Washington state | krem.com
We will take in any Idaho refugees.
Inslee signs bill prohibiting abortion lawsuits in Washington state | krem.com
We will take in any Idaho refugees.
There has to be a cut off somewhere. I think most of us would agree that three days is to short and a month after birth is to long. What's the right number?
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