Don't know about you, but I have a "Content.IE5" folder inside local config with some strange subdirectories (CDQFGTIV, OD2RSHIJ, etc) filled with internet temps, why? I have a different folder set up for ie temp files...
What the hell is the "Content.IE5" folder??
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You may find this an interesting insight as to what the folder(s) are used for.
MS Hidden Files & Folders
MS Hidden Files & Folders
Interesting. I've encountered those folders before but never thought much of them. Yet another reason to move to Opera.
The contents of that article still apply to XP and IE 6.0. Whether or not you care about how your software operates is another matter. I can't honestly think of a good reason to create and retain Conent.IE5 files even after you've cleared your history/file cache can you?
Yes, I absoultely can. The caching system keeps an index file so it can quickly find cached content. It then breaks the cached files up into a number of folders (this is to increase performance on FAT/FAT32 systems). You will notice if you go 'clear your browser cache' that the files in these directories are nuked (well. reset to '0' size files). The index file is then 'reset' so it knows it can resue these already allocated files, however IE doesn't 'nuke' the contents of the index file (e.g. current data isn't overwritten, just marked so it CAN be overwritten). The keeping of the files (but setting there size to 0) is a further optimization to keep the cache as fast as possible.
The person who wrote that article doesn't understand the difference between the index and the actually stored content. He seems to imply that since MS isn't nuking the index file, they are somehow 'spying' on users. This simply isn't true, there is no need to nuke the index. The IE option (clear tempory files) does exactly that, nukes the actualy content stored. The index is kept (otherwise the first page you browsed to and cached would cause the index to be rebuilt, wasting time).
Bill
>>Stash! Your not suggesting that site has an agenda are you? <<
Yes, we can find persons who have a huh? agenda against MS by the titles of their nonsense. Using the F word in the title would only work for those who have an IQ of ten or less.
I suspect the web site was written by a junior high school kid having a bit of fun. Nothing to get excited over or to believe.
Just noticed what shows the quality of the website. One of its subject titles is GNU/Lesbian Linux. ???
Yes, we can find persons who have a huh? agenda against MS by the titles of their nonsense. Using the F word in the title would only work for those who have an IQ of ten or less.
I suspect the web site was written by a junior high school kid having a bit of fun. Nothing to get excited over or to believe.
Just noticed what shows the quality of the website. One of its subject titles is GNU/Lesbian Linux. ???
haha I must have a "-0" iq then! I mean if ms spys on ya I can't say in regards to what that dude speak of but ifya check out what he saying you will see it keeps a good bit of tabs on ya! So, why not go ahead and delete the stuff with dos? I have been doing so for 3 years now. I have also notice that for some odd reasone when deleteing files they don't really go bye bye. Also I don't think a 10 year old could have edit/made/ write on such topics like that unless he had some majore help or is way pass any of you guys when it comes to "iq" heh...
I can't help but notice Opera can cache and store data without hidden folders and files and when you clear it out it's all zapped. 
Originally posted by: JellyBaby
I can't help but notice Opera can cache and store data without hidden folders and files and when you clear it out it's all zapped.
Good for opera. MS hides folders because end users who don't know any better go and muck with the files if they don't. Those users then call support for help. Not as much of a problem for Opera since it tends to have a more sophisticted user base (sorta by definition).
Bill
If I was going to get excited about any perceived lack of privacy on the Internet, I would probably complain more about the logs that every website has than some cache file created by IE.
If you want total privacy on the Internet, unplug your cat5 or modem cable.
If you want total privacy on the Internet, unplug your cat5 or modem cable.
Bill
That is just a reprint of the original article that appeared on The Register (UK) and ZDNet.
Microsoft has never denied the fact to date.
That is just a reprint of the original article that appeared on The Register (UK) and ZDNet.
Microsoft has never denied the fact to date.
Caching internet content makes sense and most browsers do it.
The way they accomplish this is irrelavant if they both provide a method for emptying this cache.
The way they accomplish this is irrelavant if they both provide a method for emptying this cache.
Great, it's still full of false accusations and outright lies. It takes a normal and reaonable OS function that the author obviously does not understand and tries to prove it's some evil plan by Microsoft to track end users (e.g. "See for yourself and THEN tell me what you think "Slick Willy" is up to here.").
Bill
The issue the author tries to bring up (although it's hidden in the lies and accusations) is that while the browser offers a way to empty the cache, thats not the same as erasing the cache. As the system is implemented, there is no guarentee that some cache material isn't recoverable after an empty. This is much like the ability to 'unerase' a file even after it's deleted. Like with deleted file, if you have a reason to make sure that no one can find such information, you'll need third party tools to actually go in and overwrite the index files so the original data is shredded.
Bill
I understand the issue Bsobel, I just don't think it's relavant.
The difference is between erasing the index that references the cache, or just go all out and erase the cache.
Harddrives work the same way, as you have pointed out, regardless of the OS (AFAIK), yet you never hear the *nix fanboy's complain about how *that* is a security issue... (which it is).
The difference is between erasing the index that references the cache, or just go all out and erase the cache.
Harddrives work the same way, as you have pointed out, regardless of the OS (AFAIK), yet you never hear the *nix fanboy's complain about how *that* is a security issue... (which it is).
I agree, I was just pointing it out so others on the thread would understand what the issue actually is. I think you and I agree 100% on this.
Best,
Bill
As that article points out and from personal experience "mucking" with those files does no harm whatsoever. IE rebuilds things the next session. So why bother trying to hide them?
It's a design philosophy. MS does alot of things with "grandma the end user" in mind. You say why bother hiding them, MS says why confuse the user by showing them. If you look at the XP filessytem (by default), there arent a hell of a lot of folders the end user can see at all. That said, they give you the ability to disable all those annoying little quirks too, so it's not something worth complaining about.
The argument you were making was IE doesnt completely erase the files. That has pretty much been refuted. It erases them as much as any OS erases a file from your harddisk. The argument about whether they are hidden or not is irrelavant. You know they are there because you are interested. Others don't because they are disinterested. Not everyone cares as much about computers as you or I.
Case in point, you likely drive a car, but probably do not understand (or maybe even dont care about) the inner workings. A mechanic who loves cars would find that as strange as you find people not caring about "hidden folders".
Open source apps have a different design philosophy (everything in the open), that's great! That philosophy is a function of what Open Source end users want. Microsoft has a habit of building thier default design around the lowest common denominator (end user wise). They also leave power users the option to tweak the system considerably. In the end, to an educated user, the difference is nil.
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