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what the hell...do they no longer teach the two second rule?!?!?!

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<< I thought the two sec rule was concerning food on the floor.

If it's been there less than 2 sec. you can still eat it. 😉 >>



no thats the 5 second rule >>



i thought it was 3 seconds. 5 sec is a little too long for me. >>



Hmm I used to hear it called the 10 second rule, and even then the more expensive the food was the longer it could be on the ground before it was trash.
 


<< Hmm I used to hear it called the 10 second rule, and even then the more expensive the food was the longer it could be on the ground before it was trash. >>



really its just doesnt matter to me.. 2 sec, 3, 5, 20 seconds, 10 minutes.. if i want it, i'll eat it.
 
I will tailgate the guy in front of me if he's driving 5 mph under the speed limit in the left lane. Otherwise, I usually leave plenty of space.
 


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<< I thought the two sec rule was concerning food on the floor.

If it's been there less than 2 sec. you can still eat it. 😉 >>



no thats the 5 second rule >>



i thought it was 3 seconds. 5 sec is a little too long for me. >>



Hmm I used to hear it called the 10 second rule, and even then the more expensive the food was the longer it could be on the ground before it was trash. >>



No, i think the 10 second rule is how long you're obligated to wait after the start of class if the professor/teacher/TA doesn't show. 😉

But I learned the 1 second per 10 mph rule which makes a heck of a lot more sense than a constant time rule. So let's see, you've got 2 seconds to react to a car going 0.5c... yeah, you'll make it! 😀
 
<< good luck stopping with a 2 second gap doing 70 mph behind someone jamming the brakes >>



ding, ding, ding--we have a winner!!!!

you are 100% right. guess that explaines how so many 10-car pileups happen


people, people, people.....do you not understand, that as your speed increases, the distance that you travel in two seconds greatly increases? So the two second rule applies at any speed. If you are driving 70 mph, you might have 100 yards between you and the car in front of you, and going 30 mph, it might be 40 yards. Get it? (The yardage was not calculated exactly, obviously). So as long as you stay two seconds away from the person in front of you, you should be just fine. The problem is, no one does that.

I try not to tailgate people, but I usually end up following at 1 second, but I try. People that drive in the left lane with right lanes open anger me. Greatly. If I am on a one lane road, I do keep my 2 seconds or more, because I know I cannot pass them, or I do not intend to. If you drive more than 10 under on small, low speeds roads, you WILL be passed by me, if at all possible.


Now, to the tailgating thing......people assume that noone will ever slam on their breaks in front of them because it has not happened to them before. Its the good ol' Pavlov(sp?) conditioning. You are taught from experience that nothing happens when you tailgate.....untill one day, someone slams on their breaks when you were not expecting it, and you rear end them. Now that you realized that people do slam on their breaks, the majority of people probably will not tailgate for a while, some never again. Eventually, the people will go back to tailgating, because they have gotten used to people not slaming on their breaks.

did that make sense?

oh, and I was driving back from dallas to austin down I-35, and there were a couple of occasions where there were easily 100 cars all tailgating each other unusually closely. I kept my distance, because if one car in front slams on his breaks, the whole line is going to slam theirs on. It was a pileup waiting to happen. If the cars would have been unable to run off the road to avoid rear ending someone, a 100 car pile-up could have easily happened.
 
I consider it okay if someone flashes their highbeams or left-turn signal if I am in the LEFT lane AND they keep a COURTEOUS DISTANCE!!

People who don't move out of their way are just as bad as the ones who don't tailgate COURTEOUSLY like in the manner I just posted above. Those who ride your ass in the middle lane or on two-laners where you're already going the speed limit are idiots who deserve what they get though.
 


<< what the hell is it with people, thesedays?!?!?!?! i can NOT figure out how people think they can drive TWO FEET off of someone's rear bumber while they are driving down the freeway/interstate at 75mph >>



Try that in Germany. Even when you drive your car with >140 MPH sooner or later there will be a Porsche, Ferrari, Audi, BMW, or whatever right (very close) behind you.
 


<< I thought the two sec rule was concerning food on the floor.

If it's been there less than 2 sec. you can still eat it. 😉 >>



Me too, except i follow the 5 second rule.
 
HOLY HELL I KNOW!!!!!!!!!! WTF is with people anyway? Don't these people realize that if you had to jam your brakes on for any reason they'd be up your ass before they could do jack-sh*t? Often when I'm on the highway I think "Now if that guy ahead of me locked my brakes could I react in time?". If the answer is no I increase distances. Obviously the vast majority of people have either never asked themselves that question or have never actually had to jam on their brakes and experienced what it's like. Anytime I hear of a 20 car pileup that's 20 people who are stupid.
 
There are differing opionions on everything. When I am driving my truck, and someone gets so close I can not see their headlites, that is too close ( I have a rather large Dodge Ram ) I have thought many times about doing a break check, but usually, I just let them sit there. I am 22, and am usually 10-15 MPH over the limit anyway, and I rarely drive on expressways. If the limit is 35, and I am doing 45, and someone gets right on my bumber, and stays there, I will flash my brakes. If they don't back off, the foot comes off the accelerator. I do not need a death on my mind. If someone hits me, I will be just fine. There car will be tinfoil lining the streat.
 


<< people, people, people.....do you not understand, that as your speed increases, the distance that you travel in two seconds greatly increases? >>



Even if the distance between the two cars is greater at higher speeds, your reaction time is fairly constant so you'd need more time if going faster. Your perception of a car slowing down at a slow speed (and thus closer to you) is much greater than the perception of a distant car. In that same reaction time, you travel further before applying your brakes in the fast scenario than the slower one.
 


<< One of those moron SUV drivers, no doubt. They're the only ones that ever drive stupidly.

Russ, NCNE >>



You're kidding right? NCNE means you have to have at least some degree of common sense...
 


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<< You know what's worse? People who don't get over when it's obvious you want to pass.

What's worse than that? People who purposly speed up when you do go to pass them. >>

Thank you. There is little that annoys me more than some idiot in the left lane when the right lane is clear for a mile. I'll hang 2-3 carlengths back and flash my lights (which, as anyone who actually knows the rules of the road knows, means "please move into the normal lane, I wish to pass"). I'd say that in my experience only 30%-40% of the drivers know what this means. 50%-60% are clueless, and 10% think it means "even though you are in the passing lane when the driving lane is more than clear, I don't want you to move over to allow me to pass. Instead, I want you to be an asshole.". If there are two lanes, the left is a passing lane, not a fast lane. If there are three lanes, the left is still passing and still not a fast lane, and the right lane is a truck lane, not the driving lane. OK, rant over.

ZV >>



I always took flashing high-beams as more of a , GET THE FVCK OUT OF MY WAY BEFORE I RUN YOU OFF THE ROAD EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN THE RIGHT LANE NOT THE FAST LANE (happened today), once that happens, I slow down to maybe 10-15 under 🙂
 
<< I thought the two sec rule was concerning food on the floor.

If it's been there less than 2 sec. you can still eat it. >>



no thats the 5 second rule >>



i thought it was 3 seconds. 5 sec is a little too long for me. >>

I use the cleanliness of the floor as a determinant for me. In my room, its a 1 second rule. In my parent's (neat freaks) room, it can be overnight
 


<< I always took flashing high-beams as more of a , GET THE FVCK OUT OF MY WAY BEFORE I RUN YOU OFF THE ROAD EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN THE RIGHT LANE NOT THE FAST LANE (happened today), once that happens, I slow down to maybe 10-15 under 🙂 >>


It depends on the context.
Once I was passing a semi. I was going 15 MPH over the limit.
A car zooms in behind me and slows down right off my bumper. Within 2 seconds of reaching this position the headlights flash. Being "polite" I start to speed up. Before I could pick up even 5MPH the car behind me begins flashing his high-beams constantly and honking his horn and then leaves his high beams on.
This is the "Get the F out of my way" context and I quickly introduced him to the little game where I slow down until he thinks he can pass me on the right and the zoom and box him in.
I would like to point out that this was an SUV.

OTOH, another night, I was passing someone in the same conditions. A see a car approaching in my rear-view. I THOUGHT I saw his high-beams flash, but he was pretty far off. After 10-15 seconds, I see the high beams flash again.
That's it. A real quick on-off from a good distance away just to say "I'm coming, please finish passing as soon as you can."
I floored it and got over as fast as I could.
It's one thing to flash your high beams once or twice to say "please move over."
It's another thing to be a jerk.
 


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<< I thought the two sec rule was concerning food on the floor.

If it's been there less than 2 sec. you can still eat it. 😉 >>



Me too, except i follow the 5 second rule. >>



if it fell into a pile of sh!t do you still follow the 2 (or 5) second rule? 😛😉
 
hey i'm a paramedic and I drive a LOT! and drive code 3. (lights siren foot firmly placed and pressing hard on the accelerator) and people are DUMB.... They wait until you are right up behind them waiting for them to move and they go. AH! an ambulance, slam on the brakes so I almost hit them and swerve for the road... Code 3 drving is a lot of fun.. but people turn dumb when they hear a siren....... point of this??

People are dumb when they drive. (okay i'm guilty of it to) I think it should be harder to get your license or atelast keep your license.....
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when ppl tailgate me on the road i just slow down...wtf they gonna do?...hehe...either slow down or pass 😛..but i ain't moving...
now if i'm in the left lane, fine, i'll change lanes cuz that's for passing...but if i'm anywhere else, that driver can kiss my ass...:|
 
word up, i always knew it as when someone flashes their light a cop is ahead, so thats why he flipped me off.......that basterd.
 
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