what the frick, I just burned up my 1600+

hardass

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I just got a new thermaltake volcano 6cu+, put it on the cpu (noticed it was very difficult to get on, and also a tight fit) 4 sec. later it starts smoking and shuts off, not even overclocking it either.

I had a thin layer of thermal grease but it must have grounded out somewhere between the copper base and die.

has anyone else ever done this?

and has anyone have the Coolermaster HCC-001 Heatsink, and is it good?
 

CubicZirconia

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Lots of people have done that. Are you sure it was right? If proper contact isn't made you can burn up an XP very easily. Lastly, I have the hhc-001, I think it's great. My 1800+@1701 is at 32 degrees right now. In comparison to other hsf's, that seems really good.
 

hardass

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I think it was because i didnt put enough thermal grease on it, I had it on right as far as lining it up with the socket.

I just bought a 1900+ and want to get the hc-001 heatsink but now im scared to on another copper heatsink, I also have some Arctic Silver 3.
 

CubicZirconia

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The fact that the heatsink was copper had nothing to do with it. I'd still guess it wasn't making proper contact with the cpu core. As for the arctic silver, follow the directions on the site and make sure the heatsink is in place before you fire it up. Good luck.
 

eLiu

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if you have ne doubts about contact...give the cpu a nice coat of arctic silver, just like their website says. A little thicker is fine too...dont sweat it.

Attach your heatsink. Let it sit for a few minutes, then remove it--look at the base. If you see a nice square of silver where the cpu core is supposed to go, re-apply the AS (if it's messed up), otherwise, remount & turn it on. If you DONT see a nice square where the CPU goes, you could have a mounting problem.

Or if you're really paranoid...once u do ^^, turn it on, run for like 3-4 seconds, then power off again...smell...bad smells=maybe a problem ;)
 

tboo

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Yeah, if the heatsink isnt making proper contact with the core your tbird will fry real quick.
 

Duvie

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At this point go ahead and clean it up and inspect it for cracks or chips....If none it may have been some paste getting on bridges...
I would go ahead and reapply and try it again....I have heard stories where it still worked...

Be careful...Thin layer is needed and you want to avoid putting so much it squeezes out onto the bridges....
 

railer

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That's why I stick with retail. If I screw anything up, I just call up AMD/Intel and say "it doesn't work anymore, send me a new one please." I personally think for the small amount of performance that you achieve with an aftermarket HS/fan over retail HS/fan, you're better off sticking with retail. I've seen my CPU temps GO UP after going from stock thermal pad to AS (sometimes, not usually).
I know, I know...I must have "did it wrong"...........whatever.
 

creedawg

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I can't probably stress this enough!

SEATING! SEATING! SEATING! SEATING!

This is very important! I was having huge
delima with my 1800+ until I got the seating
position on the heatsink/fan properly. I was getting
over 80C temps, now I have under 50C temps!
And my CPU is frickin operational! I love it!

What a relief!

CreeDiddy
 

DivideBYZero

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50C with an XP???!?!?! :Q

I get 46-47C MAX load with my T-Bird @ 1.53Ghz

That really isn't very good. And I can't believe it's OK after running at 80!
 

RustyNale

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Thermal paste needs to be applied sparingly. It is not the "ideal" conductor of heat, the heat sink is supposed to be. What thermal paste is for is to fill in the small gaps between the cpu and hsf where air would normally be as the match between the two is not perfect. Thermal paste is a much much better conductor of heat than air is, that's why we use it. Too much paste will actually work against you, preventing the good transfer of heat from you cpu to your hsf. Apply some paste to each surface ( cpu chip and hsf--pretty much in the center or where you know the cpu will approx be in contact with) then use a flat scraper ( usually a razor blade ) remove the excess paste from each surface, and insuring a "flat" surface. Then CAREFULLY attach the hsf to the cpu, plug the fan in and you're off and running.

Yes, the XPchipset can take higher temps than the Tbird (up to 90 C before serious problems occur). I'd remove your chip and inspect it very carefully for signs of heat--discoloration, if you're lucky, you haven't fried it.
 

HardWareXpert

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I have a Coolermaster HS/fan with a thermal pad about the size of the CPU on it, also there are 3 catches on each side for a strong fit, no problems fitting this baby.

My AthlonXP 1700+ is a 32c idle/41 full.
 

creedawg

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DivideByZero,

I have mine Oc'ed from 1.53Ghz to 1.62Ghz @1.8v. It reads
under 52C. This is pretty decent!

CreeDiddy
 

Jerboy

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Did you smell anything???

Yes: forget it. You burnt $$$. Get ready to shell out more money or live without your new chip.


No: Clean the chip with paint thinner, remove gooey pad from heatsink. Apply a small amount of thermal grease on the CPU core. Mount the heatsink back on properly and try again.


 

zzzz

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I just want to comment that the temperatures you see with the AMD cpus are not accurate and will vary from motherboard to motherboard as the sensor is in the socket.
 

kursplat

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well, he didn't say one way or another (seems like no), i would like to know if he was using a shim or not.
 

hardass

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its cooked. there was a scorch mark on the top left corner of the core, but I did get my 1900+ running, I was scared at first but I must have done somthing right cause the idle temp is 39c and a full load is 43c, not overclocking either, and only using one case fan.