What the Bleep Do We Know!?

[Lorn]

Link.

Very interesting movie about quantum physics, logic, religion, ethics...

Has anyone here seen it? If you haven't I seriously reccommend it (if a reccommendation from NOLOVE means anything, lol) no matter what your stance is on life/God/religion/truth/etc.

 

[Zanix]

Whew... just got done watching it.




I need to go think for a while.

 

[xcript]

I've been meaning to see it. A few people have recommended it to me.

 

[Vic]

Looks very interesting.

 

[Megatomic]

Never seen it, checking out the link now.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Haven't seen it yet, but a guy in the show I'm in was in it.

 

[Megatomic]

I don't think I've seen this movie advertised here in VA yet. Is that because VA is part of the Bible Belt or has it just not spread this far?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I don't think I've seen this movie advertised here in VA yet. Is that because VA is part of the Bible Belt or has it just not spread this far?

I don't think it was advertised much or at all. I haven't seen anything for it out west here, a long long way from the Bible Belt.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I don't think I've seen this movie advertised here in VA yet. Is that because VA is part of the Bible Belt or has it just not spread this far?

I don't think it was advertised much or at all. I haven't seen anything for it out west here, a long long way from the Bible Belt.

Yeah..

It's a phenomenon amongst those who have seen it though. I haven't yet, but haven't heard anything bad about it.

My Mom really, really loves it. The subject matter is basically exactly what she's getting her Masters in. Instead of trying to explain to people what she's going to school for, she just says "Go see "What the Bleep do we know?!"".

lol

 

[imported_Reck]

I heard the movie sucked so I never bothered to see it.

 

[mordantmonkey]

it played mostly in small art house theatres. but it'
s out for rental now

 

[Megatomic]

Rental eh? I'm going to go to Blockbuster tomorrow to see if I can get a copy. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Monkey muppet]

Very interesting, a little boggling at times - Interesting none-the-less.

To summerize, the tittle explains that there is still so much with as a race have yet to understand

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I don't think I've seen this movie advertised here in VA yet. Is that because VA is part of the Bible Belt or has it just not spread this far?

I don't think it was advertised much or at all. I haven't seen anything for it out west here, a long long way from the Bible Belt.

Yeah..

It's a phenomenon amongst those who have seen it though. I haven't yet, but haven't heard anything bad about it.

My Mom really, really loves it. The subject matter is basically exactly what she's getting her Masters in. Instead of trying to explain to people what she's going to school for, she just says "Go see "What the Bleep do we know?!"".

lol

its been advertised here in santa rosa county, fl(nw). not sure if its showing in theatres, but im going to check it out and maybe go see it.

Northwest Florida is sometimes known as the Bible belt. It is in the Guinness Book of World Records for having more churches per square mile than any other area in the nation. There are approximately 178 churches in Santa Rosa County alone. If you are new to the area you will not have a problem finding a church that fits your spiritual needs. To learn what churches are in the area and to find their contact information choose the link below.

from our towns chamber of commerce website.

 

[shimsham]

an interesting review

and another

sounds like a bunch of new age hubaloo, but ill see it anyway to make an informed decison.

 

[Landroval]

It convinced my then 14yr old brother to study hard in h.s. so he can study quantum physics in college. Seriously!

 

[Megatomic]

Did his new-found dedication persist?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: shimsham
an interesting review

and another

sounds like a bunch of new age hubaloo, but ill see it anyway to make an informed decison.

Hmm, interesting..

The reviewers sound biased though.

I don't doubt that the movie has an agenda, but most people aren't aware of the things they're talking about in the first place, so it is a real eye-opener....

 

[shimsham]

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some info on jz knight, aka ramtha, of who(m?) the 3 directors are followers.

sounds a little batty. just makes me want to see it more, now.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
Did his new-found dedication persist?

So far, yes. He still mentions it regularly

 

[imported_Reck]

Just scored a copy. I'm gonna watch it tonight.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: shimsham
an interesting review

and another

sounds like a bunch of new age hubaloo, but ill see it anyway to make an informed decison.

Unfortunately, this is more or less exactly what the film ended up being. Which is sad, because there is some truth to its messages but it gets lost in its own propaganda, so that by about halfway through the film it all starts to break down, and in the end you just feel tricked.
It should be noted that the news media, as the world's largest purveyors of the hate and fear addictions, would absolutely hate this film under any circumstances, but the new age hokie-ness of the film is truly a bit too much.
Yes, we create own realities. Yes, we can become addicted to our emotions. Yes, pills to regulate our emotional states are complete hoaxes (when sold to otherwise healthy people)... but no, this film is not the answer. Its science is on the same level as SETI, and its religion on the same level as the Bhagwan Rashneesh.

btw, I was genuinely surprised to find out that it was filmed almost entirely in Portland. I had no idea. They really filmed it well too.

 

[imported_Reck]

I'm watching it now...from what I can tell it's a lot of nonsense. It makes tons of baseless claims, too many to be believable. Some of the ones I found to be funny were:

1)native Americans could not even see Columbus's ship due to the fact that they did not know what ships were....where is the proof of this?

2)molecules pop in and out of different realities and do not really even exist

3)in an experiment a group of four thousand people from different nations meditates in Washington DC...crime rates drop 25% that day.

4)A buddist monk actually was able to change the properties of water with his mind. WTF?

That's just a few of the outrageous claims. It's a bunch of really smart guys opining about stuff ordinary people have no ****ing clue about...so yea the movie preys on people's stupidity.

 

[dderidex]

*ahem*

Wikipedia to the rescue

[*]JZ Knight/Ramtha appears frequently in the film. In the film, she appears to be a scientist or spiritual teacher of some kind. By the end of the film, during the credits, she is identified as the spirit "Ramtha" who is being "channeled" by "JZ Knight." The three people who wrote, directed, and produced the movie are students of the Ramtha School of Enlightenment. Knight was born Judith Darlene Hampton in Roswell, N.M. The spirit, Ramtha, who she claims to channel, is "a 35,000 year-old warrior spirit from the lost continent of Atlantis and one of the Ascended Masters." (Knight speaks with an accent because English is not Ramtha's first language.)
[*]John Hagelin was the head of the 1993 Transcendental Meditation project in Washington, DC. (The Washington TM study was mentioned in the film, but Hagelin was never identified as one of its authors.) He is chairman of the Physics Department at Maharishi International University in Fairfield, Iowa. The University was founded by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the Indian guru who vaulted to fame after becoming the spiritual advisor to the Beatles.
[*]Amit Goswami, Ph.D. "One of the rare scientists that do not leave out consciousness in explaining quantum physics." [1] (http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/amitgoswami.shtml) He appears in What is Enlightenment magazine, authored the book The Self-Aware Universe: How Consciousness Creates the Material World (ISBN 0874777984), and has worked with Deepak Chopra.
[*]Candace Pert wrote the book Molecules of Emotion in 1997 (foreword written by Deepak Chopra) where she espoused views very similar to those of the film. Some aspects of the film appeared to be based on her book. For example, the first ten minutes of the movie can be summarized by a quote from pages 146-148 of Molecules of Emotion where she writes:
There is no objective reality! ... Emotions are constantly regulating what we experience as "reality." The decision about what sensory information travels to your brain and what gets filtered depends on what signals the receptors are receiving from the peptides ... For example, when the tall European ships first approached the early Native Americans, it was such an "impossible" vision in their reality that their highly-filtered perceptions couldn't register what was happening, and they literally failed to "see" the ships.
Another point in the movie can be well summarized by page 285, where she writes:
The tendency to ignore emotions is oldthink, a remnant of the still-reigning paradigm that keeps us focused on the material level of health, the physicality of it. But the emotions are a key element in the self-care because they allow us to enter into the bodymind's conversation. By getting in touch with our emotions, both by listening to them and by directing them through the psychosomatic network, we gain access to the healing wisdom that is everyone's natural biological right.
[*]Fred Alan Wolf, Ph.D recently wrote The Yoga of Time Travel: How the Mind Can Defeat Time. (Interesting note: he says he is also known by the name "Captain Quantum"?a name which is mentioned briefly in the film, though without reference to Wolf.) He also appears in videos, including Shamanic Physics: "Fred Alan Wolf discusses his efforts to explain shamanic realities in terms of modern physics. He suggests that shamans interact with parallel universes and are able to enter into the world of the dead." [2] (http://www.thinkingallowed.com/2fwolf.html)
Most of the other scientists appearing in the movie have similar New Age beliefs and affiliations, with one notable exception:

Dr. David Albert, a philosopher of physics and professor at Columbia University, speaks frequently throughout the movie. While it may appear as though he supports the ideas that are presented in the movie, according to a Popular Science article, he is "outraged at the final product." [3] (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,699379,00.html) The article states that Dr. Albert granted the filmmakers a near-four hour interview, which was then edited and incorperated into the film in such a way that misrepresented his views that quantum mechanics is not related to consciousness or spirituality. In the article, Dr. Albert also expresses his feelings of gullibility after having been "taken" by the filmmakers.

Basically, you all just watched a cult indoctrination movie!

Don't read too much into it, it's all BS!

 

[dderidex]

More

Q. While the film "What the #$*! Do We Know!?" parades itself as a tell-all about quantum physics, it turns out that it's actually a 111-minute infomercial for ... that's right, the Ramtha School of Enlightenment. In fact, the three filmmakers, [William] Arntz, [Betsy] Chasse and [Mark] Vicente, are all devotees of Ramtha.

There's little to no accurate science in the film, and, as a physicist pointed out recently in your Answer Man column, the individuals who are quoted are pretty far from qualified experts on the field of quantum mechanics. Case in point: One of the persons expounding on causality and quantum physics (Dispenza) is a chiropractor. The film's sole purpose appears to be to promote the ideology of the Ramtha School of Enlightenment. A quick browse through their Web site will clearly demonstrate that the film's pseudoscientific nonsense comes straight from the teachings of the RSE.

Rubin Safaya, Edina, Minn.

A. Several other readers also unmasked the documentary as a hoax. I knew there had to be something fishy when the expert who made the most sense was channeling a 35,000-year-old seer from Atlantis.