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What state makes the best cheddar cheese?

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Somerset, South West England. The home of Cheddar. ^_^

Failing that, I'd say Ontario, Canada makes some good cheddar.
 
In my experience, and I LOVE cheddar cheese...

Wisconsin for yellow cheddar (try Mullins 5 year aged...woah!)

Vermont for white cheddar

I'm sure there are good cheesemakers everywhere though.

I don't find Tillamook to be anything special...sorry guys, but I've tried several cheddars from them and they seem a bit 'rubbery' to me.

The stuff from the UK tastes a little funny to me, but I'm sure many over there would feel the same way about US cheese.
 
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Being a Wisconsin cheesehead (like I have to explain where a cheesehead is from?), I am biased towards Wisconsin. Not sure where the retards in California got off a few years back saying they are the new Cheese state. You may lead in milk production, but I still pay $1.79 for a gallon of milk in Wisconsin. How you justify making people pay $4+ dollars a gallon for milk is beyond me. You should take your collective capitalist marketing asses and jump off a cliff. When we lived in San Diego back in 1998, we would buy 2 gallons for $5 at Von's and freeze one gallon. Hated to do that, but damned if I would pay $4 for one gallon!!
Vermont....yep...you have some good cheese too. Spain?....love your manchengo and aged(queso viejo) cheeses too. Tillamook...been there...satisfied my urge for good cheese. I preferred it on the West Coast if I couldn' find WI cheese.
I always measured a true cheesehead if you knew what cheesecurds were and have tried them fresh or deep fried. Then you know good stuff!
 
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I am a cheddar cheesemaker. I'm biased towards the Northwest becuase I'm from here and all of my experience is from cheesemakers here.

Anyone mentioning Tillamook has no idea what they're talking about. Tillamook is a joke. They are the Hershey of cheesemakers.

Really cheddar is a fairly simple cheese, and a lot of people make it really well. I'd just assume states like Wisconsin or Vermont make more pounds of good cheddar than anyone else. The industry is just bigger there.

But if you're going to go by a label alone, I'd definitely look at Washington state cheesemakers. Wisconsin, California, and Oregon are more likely to be crap because they have more giant industrial facilities that take scrap milk and ultrapasteurize it to flavorlessness. Washington has a budding artisan market, and because the market as a whole is small if its made in Washington its more likely to be good.
 
Farang said:
I am a cheddar cheesemaker. I'm biased towards the Northwest becuase I'm from here and all of my experience is from cheesemakers here.

Anyone mentioning Tillamook has no idea what they're talking about. Tillamook is a joke. They are the Hershey of cheesemakers.

Really cheddar is a fairly simple cheese, and a lot of people make it really well. I'd just assume states like Wisconsin or Vermont make more pounds of good cheddar than anyone else. The industry is just bigger there.

But if you're going to go by a label alone, I'd definitely look at Washington state cheesemakers. Wisconsin, California, and Oregon are more likely to be crap because they have more giant industrial facilities that take scrap milk and ultrapasteurize it to flavorlessness. Washington has a budding artisan market, and because the market as a whole is small if its made in Washington its more likely to be good.
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Can haz cheese?
 
Fritzo said:
Take a look at what you said.

Milk is all homoginized, and it's all mixed together from a supplier. Milk is milk. People don't go from state to state and say "Your milk tastes different from my milk". It's all the same. If it were not homoginized, it would have distinctive properties, but in the US, you can't get it that way.

Bacteria cultures are what give cheese it's taste and properties, and these cultures are often held in producing families for generations. Environment has nothing to do with it.
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This is false. Milk is everything. Milks are not created equal. Really its the milk you start with that determines your cheddar, and the fat contents of milk vary greatly.

Cheesemakers don't buy milk from the grocery store, so it is not all homoginized. You contract with farms or buy your own herd.

Bacteria culture recipes can change but the cultures themselves aren't very important. Most cheesemakers buy from an industrial supplier. The cultures just draw out the best part of the milk, rather than provide any flavor themselves.
 
NOTHING beats Tillamook Cheese in Oregon...NOTHING!!!

I even carried 30 pounds of it as a carry-on to visit my in-laws in Florida from Oregon because they can't get it.
 
damn that's fail on so many levels.

Gratz on less than 5 posts a month though.

Sort of scary how you spend them.
 
ElFenix said:
the united kingdom is a state.
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The United Kingdom is a State

The United States is a State
The states in the U.S. are states

notice the difference? Subtle, I know. 😛

Political terminology for sovereign bodies is a bitch that isn't even universal in education. Each discipline seems to have their own descriptions.

The best I've been taught?
A State is a sovereign entity
A Nation is a loosely-defined territory consisting of people of the same culture and ideology
A Nation-State is a sovereign entity with a single cultural constitution

Isn't that fun?

The states in the U.S.A. are, or... more correctly were, defined bodies of sovereignty that simply shared a political union (like the E.U. currently). Over time the sovereignty of the states was slowly stripped away, although the pace has been hastening in the past century, at an exponential rate. 🙁

Though technically, the term is still apt even without the sovereign status. Because they are, in lawful terms, somewhat sovereign in the sense of a Republic.
Remember City-States? Aside from Vatican City, they really don't exist any more. But the concept was much the same, each entity within a Republic is sovereign, except for when they aren't. 😛

In the sense of territories within a sovereign State, you can see what can only be described as degrees of sovereignty, with Republics by the structural basis offering the most sovereignty for their territories than other governing styles.

Shit... I still cannot believe Canada is not a State. WTF is up with that?!
At least, if it is, it is not described as such anywhere I have seen. I always assumed it was, as the link to monarchy is so diluted it seems non-existent, unless I'm completely aloof to the Canada-U.K. interaction.
 
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