What should we do to the California Forest Fire arsonist

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Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Baked
Sorry, but when you choose be a scum POS, you don't deserve any rights to trail. But that's just me opinion. Giving POS like him a trail is the reason why we waste so much tax dollars that could've been put to better use. I say put a bullet in his face at the moment he's arrested and save everybody the trouble.

Don't let emotion overrun logic. What if someone you loved were wrongly arrested and people went around saying how he or she should just be taken out and shot without a trial?
 

SophalotJack

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Baked
Sorry, but when you choose be a scum POS, you don't deserve any rights to trail. But that's just me opinion. Giving POS like him a trail is the reason why we waste so much tax dollars that could've been put to better use. I say put a bullet in his face at the moment he's arrested and save everybody the trouble.

Don't let emotion overrun logic. What if someone you loved were wrongly arrested and people went around saying how he or she should just be taken out and shot without a trial?

depends... are you NOT white and live in the early 1900's down south?

If so, then I'd all it "Tuesday."
 

dxkj

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They died trying to protect a home? That seems like a stupid move... a house isnt worth more than 4 lives.
 

So

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Originally posted by: Baked
There's a 500K bounty on his ass. He's responsible for the death of FIVE firefighters. If captured, he shouldn't even have the rights to a trial. Just burn him live in a fvcking fire. People like him should be the reason why public hanging should be brought back. We are simply too lenient against assholes like him.

Everybody deserves t trial, and then, when found convicted, the most horrible punishmetn possible.
 

So

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Originally posted by: Baked
Sorry, but when you choose be a scum POS, you don't deserve any rights to trail. But that's just me opinion. Giving POS like him a trail is the reason why we waste so much tax dollars that could've been put to better use. I say put a bullet in his face at the moment he's arrested and save everybody the trouble.

I can think of a LOT of worse uses for taxes than giving someone, even someone obviously guilty, a fair trial.
 

Baked

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Ok, I guess I went a little overboard there. Maybe the POS should get a very short trail just for show, then get executed in the courtroom in front of live cameras.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: So

I can think of a LOT of worse uses for taxes than giving someone, even someone obviously guilty, a fair trial.

Invasion of NK.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: Baked
Ok, I guess I went a little overboard there. Maybe the POS should get a very short trail just for show, then get executed in the courtroom in front of live cameras.

Even if he isn't the guy who actually started the fires?

How do you know he did? The reason for trials is to at least take a shot at not convicting an innocent person.
 

mattocs

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If it was an accident (like a campfire or something) then charge him with setting a fire and not keeping it under control. If it was intentional to destroy people and property, then some sort of manslaughter or homicide.
 

skyking

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Originally posted by: dxkj
He didnt kill anyone did he?
They died trying to protect a home? That seems like a stupid move... a house isnt worth more than 4 lives.

Those guys were doing a job there, and they would have been safe at home or in the station but for some arsonist. That is the lamest argument I've ever seen.

My brother-in-law responded to an arson, and was making sure no one was inside when part of the building collapsed. He was crushed, and has spent the last 31 years f his life in a wheelchair because of it. Think just a little bit before posting drivel like that again.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: dxkj
He didnt kill anyone did he?
They died trying to protect a home? That seems like a stupid move... a house isnt worth more than 4 lives.

Those guys were doing a job there, and they would have been safe at home or in the station but for some arsonist. That is the lamest argument I've ever seen.

My brother-in-law responded to an arson, and was making sure no one was inside when part of the building collapsed. He was crushed, and has spent the last 31 years f his life in a wheelchair because of it. Think just a little bit before posting drivel like that again.

It isn't drivel at all. Whoever did this did NOT kill anyone directly or intentionally. That isn't to say he is not in some way responsible, but it was not 1st degree murder.
 

skyking

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: dxkj
He didnt kill anyone did he?
They died trying to protect a home? That seems like a stupid move... a house isnt worth more than 4 lives.

Those guys were doing a job there, and they would have been safe at home or in the station but for some arsonist. That is the lamest argument I've ever seen.

My brother-in-law responded to an arson, and was making sure no one was inside when part of the building collapsed. He was crushed, and has spent the last 31 years f his life in a wheelchair because of it. Think just a little bit before posting drivel like that again.

It isn't drivel at all. Whoever did this did NOT kill anyone directly or intentionally. That isn't to say he is not in some way responsible, but it was not 1st degree murder.

Do you see first degree murder in this post anywhere, sparky?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: SophalotJack

depends... are you NOT white and live in the early 1900's down south?

If so, then I'd all it "Tuesday."

I assume you're talking about lynching, which I obviously don't agree with. I don't really see what crimes comitted people who were "looking for justice", wanted to punish people they felt were inferior for no good reason, and lived one hundred years ago have to do with the current situation or my post.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Baked
Sorry, but when you choose be a scum POS, you don't deserve any rights to trail. But that's just me opinion. Giving POS like him a trail is the reason why we waste so much tax dollars that could've been put to better use. I say put a bullet in his face at the moment he's arrested and save everybody the trouble.

Fine, then I believe you started the fires and I've given your name to the police.

Bet you wish there would be a trial now.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Qianglong
I read on the yahoo news that another firefighter with 90% burns on his body just died in hospital. This pisses me off no time as I can't believe why someone would set a fire for fun?

If he wants fire just self immolate instead of burning other people's property and lives.

He should be executed as a murder!!!

yup nail them to the wall. just like joyriders trying to outrun cops and nailing a pedestrain.

or like a drunk driver killing someone.

 

bsobel

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It isn't drivel at all. Whoever did this did NOT kill anyone directly or intentionally. That isn't to say he is not in some way responsible, but it was not 1st degree murder.

If it was arson (and not say a camp-fire out of control) then you can not say he didnt' kill intentionally (you dont know that at this point, there are arsonists that set fires to kill responders).

But taking your post at face value, if it was fire was arson then he is legally responsible for the deaths and damage it caused regardless if he 'expected' them or not. If someone was fleeing and died of a heartattack he'd be responsible for that death as well.


 

Umberger

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
castration by red hot rusty saw.

**FIXED**

FIXED BETTER.


seriously, I think that when someone does something this stupid, they lose any right to life that they had. he is a waste of the air he breathes. I'd do it myself if you let me.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: dxkj
He didnt kill anyone did he?
They died trying to protect a home? That seems like a stupid move... a house isnt worth more than 4 lives.

Those guys were doing a job there, and they would have been safe at home or in the station but for some arsonist. That is the lamest argument I've ever seen.

My brother-in-law responded to an arson, and was making sure no one was inside when part of the building collapsed. He was crushed, and has spent the last 31 years f his life in a wheelchair because of it. Think just a little bit before posting drivel like that again.

It isn't drivel at all. Whoever did this did NOT kill anyone directly or intentionally. That isn't to say he is not in some way responsible, but it was not 1st degree murder.

Do you see first degree murder in this post anywhere, sparky?

No, but I see people proposing punishments that are similar to that received with the above charge. I think he should be in jail for a few years, but not his entire life (which is what you often get with first degree murder).
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Baked
There's a 500K bounty on his ass. He's responsible for the death of FIVE firefighters. If captured, he shouldn't even have the rights to a trial. Just burn him live in a fvcking fire. People like him should be the reason why public hanging should be brought back. We are simply too lenient against assholes like him.

no. he should be given a fair trial. when found giulty (have to make sure he is guilty) then we tie him to a tree and light it on fire.