what should i do? (girl related)

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ElFenix

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you are in the friend zone. might as well start hitting on her friend.
 

wnied

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But, soft! what light through yonder window breaks?
It is the east, and Juliet is the sun.
Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon,
Who is already sick and pale with grief,
That thou her maid art far more fair than she:
Be not her maid, since she is envious;
Her vestal livery is but sick and green
And none but fools do wear it; cast it off.
It is my lady, O, it is my love!
O, that she knew she were!
She speaks yet she says nothing: what of that?
Her eye discourses; I will answer it.
I am too bold, 'tis not to me she speaks:
Two of the fairest stars in all the heaven,
Having some business, do entreat her eyes
To twinkle in their spheres till they return.
What if her eyes were there, they in her head?
The brightness of her cheek would shame those stars,
As daylight doth a lamp; her eyes in heaven
Would through the airy region stream so bright
That birds would sing and think it were not night.
See, how she leans her cheek upon her hand!
O, that I were a glove upon that hand,
That I might touch that cheek!


Lameo O Lameo! Wherefore art thy Lameo!


With Much Disdain
~wnied~
 

NogginBoink

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Ask her on a Date.

None of this pansyass hanging out together that could be interpreted as just friends stuff.

A date. A romantic date. Be crystal clear with her that that's what you're asking.

Just be prepared for the possibility she may say no.
 

Bryophyte

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Ummm, am I the only person here that thinks that maybe she's sending you a signal?

the problem is, every time i try to get her to go out, she is always busy, with the same friend. (yes she is actually doing something with the friend... and not using it as an excuse to get out of doing something with myself)... what can be done? I invited her to a party last week, and she did come, but with that same friend.. it's like they are siamese twins now...

Three is better than two, isn't it? :Q
 

dirtboy

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Everybody's different. After a long relationship some will want to get back into another and others will want to be single for awhile.
 

stev0

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ehh... i think i'll just stop asking for girl advice on ATOT... :eek:

thanks for the input though...
 

KEV1N

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I didn't actually read your original post but the answer is "just do it".
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: KEV1N
I didn't actually read your original post but the answer is "just do it".

erm... actually i think i'm going to wait a big longer... give her 'space'... and see what happens... atm i'm worried that ElFenix is right, i've probably stepped into the 'friend' territory and there is no chance for me...
 

ChefJoe

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Half? Please tell me there's a limit. Last girl I wanted to ask on a date with a BF had been dating for 4 years.... i'd hate to wait 2 just to ask.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: ChefJoe
Half? Please tell me there's a limit. Last girl I wanted to ask on a date with a BF had been dating for 4 years.... i'd hate to wait 2 just to ask.

good call... but i dunno... :eek:

stev0 <- i r n00b with chicks
 

SubZeroX

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alright, I told a friend of mine (who is a girl) about your situation and she says that mostly likely she doesn't like you. The fact that she always bring her friend along indicates that she doesn't want to spend time alone with you. She probably senses that you like her, and she wants to avoid the awkwardness of being alone with you. Besides, since she just broke up with someone, it's a no-win situation for you if you try to move in right now because she's either going to lose respect for you for trying to take advantage of her vulnerable state, or she's going to use you as a rebound. What you should do is take things slow and just be supportive. Show your affection for her slowly and hopefully she'll realize what a great guy you are and reciprocate your affection. Good luck.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: KEV1N
I didn't actually read your original post but the answer is "just do it".

erm... actually i think i'm going to wait a big longer... give her 'space'... and see what happens... atm i'm worried that ElFenix is right, i've probably stepped into the 'friend' territory and there is no chance for me...

its not no chance... there is a chance... but you can't do anything until theres a "moment"... you'll know what i mean when it happens (if it happens)
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: KEV1N
I didn't actually read your original post but the answer is "just do it".

erm... actually i think i'm going to wait a big longer... give her 'space'... and see what happens... atm i'm worried that ElFenix is right, i've probably stepped into the 'friend' territory and there is no chance for me...

its not no chance... there is a chance... but you can't do anything until theres a "moment"... you'll know what i mean when it happens (if it happens)

:eek:

stev0... <- dosen't know what to think, girls fustrate him so much... remembers why he loves his computer so much :eek:
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: KEV1N
I didn't actually read your original post but the answer is "just do it".

erm... actually i think i'm going to wait a big longer... give her 'space'... and see what happens... atm i'm worried that ElFenix is right, i've probably stepped into the 'friend' territory and there is no chance for me...

its not no chance... there is a chance... but you can't do anything until theres a "moment"... you'll know what i mean when it happens (if it happens)

:eek:

stev0... <- dosen't know what to think, girls fustrate him so much... remembers why he loves his computer so much :eek:

/elfenix realizes hes dumped more $$$ into computers than all the girls combined :Q
 

DummyPotato

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i actually went through an almost identical situation - except i'm the girl. so maybe what happened to me would be helpful. i was devastated after breaking up with my then boyfriend, and my best guy friend was really understanding and supportive. he wasn't aggressive, gave me a lot of time and space, but whenever i need someone he's there. eventually i got over the break up, and we're closer than we were before the whole incident. nothing more happened before a year went by, and very recently when he visited me, i suddenly realized how much i've been taking him for granted. all these years he's been there for me and i've never see that he's everything i've ever wanted. right now he's my boyfriend and i've never been happier. sure, there wasn't any passion or flying sparks, but i know this is the one guy that i can be with for a good, long time - we've already been together for a long time without my seeing it. :)

so give the lucky girl what my sweetie gave me, and when she turned around and saw you with her every step of the way, she'll be thankful that she has someone like you.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: SubZeroX
alright, I told a friend of mine (who is a girl) about your situation and she says that mostly likely she doesn't like you. The fact that she always bring her friend along indicates that she doesn't want to spend time alone with you. She probably senses that you like her, and she wants to avoid the awkwardness of being alone with you. Besides, since she just broke up with someone, it's a no-win situation for you if you try to move in right now because she's either going to lose respect for you for trying to take advantage of her vulnerable state, or she's going to use you as a rebound. What you should do is take things slow and just be supportive. Show your affection for her slowly and hopefully she'll realize what a great guy you are and reciprocate your affection. Good luck.

alright i might as well explain why i say i know... or think she has some interest for me... about a week ago one of the mutal friends of ours ask her what she thought of me, and her reply was something to "he is a really sweet guy, he is always so nice to me" the friend asked if she would ever date someone like myself to which she replied "i think i could see myself dating him"... it went something like that... i spose i could scrounge around in my trillian logs but i'm too lazy.

thoughts?
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: DummyPotato
i actually went through an almost identical situation - except i'm the girl. so maybe what happened to me would be helpful. i was devastated after breaking up with my then boyfriend, and my best guy friend was really understanding and supportive. he wasn't aggressive, gave me a lot of time and space, but whenever i need someone he's there. eventually i got over the break up, and we're closer than we were before the whole incident. nothing more happened before a year went by, and very recently when he visited me, i suddenly realized how much i've been taking him for granted. all these years he's been there for me and i've never see that he's everything i've ever wanted. right now he's my boyfriend and i've never been happier. sure, there wasn't any passion or flying sparks, but i know this is the one guy that i can be with for a good, long time - we've already been together for a long time without my seeing it. :)

so give the lucky girl what my sweetie gave me, and when she turned around and saw you with her every step of the way, she'll be thankful that she has someone like you.

thank you... seriously, thank you :) that helped a bit :)
 

"alright i might as well explain why i say i know... or think she has some interest for me... about a week ago one of the mutal friends of ours ask her what she thought of me, and her reply was something to "he is a really sweet guy, he is always so nice to me" the friend asked if she would ever date someone like myself to which she replied "i think i could see myself dating him"... it went something like that... i spose i could scrounge around in my trillian logs but i'm too lazy.

thoughts?"


All right, hon' . . . let's try this again, as it seems you are trying desperately to convince yourself. See, it appears that you do not speak women's tongue. Now, if you want to understand their language, listen attentively. It's simple: there's no better way to tell Mr. Nice Guy that you appreciate him and he makes a great friend but there's no spark and it won't happen. She's telling that person in a subtle way that you're a sweet person, but you're too good for her. Wouldn't you feel guilty if someone was sweet but you weren't interested in the person? Wouldn't you want to give back something sweet in return (i.e., complimenting the person)?

The best you could get out of this is the following: You do the crap of chasing her just after she broke up with someone, then she'll get carried away a bit. You'll then think you have her and do all sorts of nice things, spend money on her, etc. But guess what? Tomorrow you'll see her with the man she cares for. It's your choice whether to get real or not.

Okay, I hope those lectures weren't in vain. I'm done.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: luvly
"alright i might as well explain why i say i know... or think she has some interest for me... about a week ago one of the mutal friends of ours ask her what she thought of me, and her reply was something to "he is a really sweet guy, he is always so nice to me" the friend asked if she would ever date someone like myself to which she replied "i think i could see myself dating him"... it went something like that... i spose i could scrounge around in my trillian logs but i'm too lazy.

thoughts?"


All right, hon' . . . let's try this again, as it seems you are trying desperately to convince yourself. See, it appears that you do not speak women's tongue. Now, if you want to understand their language, listen attentively. It's simple: there's no better way to tell Mr. Nice Guy that you appreciate him and he makes a great friend but there's no spark and it won't happen. She's telling that person in a subtle way that you're a sweet person, but you're too good for her. Wouldn't you feel guilty if someone was sweet but you weren't interested in the person? Wouldn't you want to give back something sweet in return (i.e., complimenting the person)?

The best you could get out of this is the following: You do the crap of chasing her just after she broke up with someone, then she'll get carried away a bit. You'll then think you have her and do all sorts of nice things, spend money on her, etc. But guess what? Tomorrow you'll see her with the man she cares for. It's your choice whether to get real or not.

Okay, I hope those lectures weren't in vain. I'm done.

thanks... i love the swift kick to the balls.
 

CSMOOTH

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Yeah, be a good guy and wait until she starts to check you out (use your super game). Then it is open game because she started it and you are obliging....
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: CSMOOTH
Yeah, be a good guy and wait until she starts to check you out (use your super game). Then it is open game because she started it and you are obliging....

my super game huh....
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: stev0
ehh... i think i'll just stop asking for girl advice on ATOT... :eek:

So quickly you have learned. :)

- M4H

Quite possibly the wisest thing you could've learned from a thread like this.
 

Shelly21

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Originally posted by: SubZeroX
alright, I told a friend of mine (who is a girl) about your situation and she says that mostly likely she doesn't like you. The fact that she always bring her friend along indicates that she doesn't want to spend time alone with you. She probably senses that you like her, and she wants to avoid the awkwardness of being alone with you. Besides, since she just broke up with someone, it's a no-win situation for you if you try to move in right now because she's either going to lose respect for you for trying to take advantage of her vulnerable state, or she's going to use you as a rebound. What you should do is take things slow and just be supportive. Show your affection for her slowly and hopefully she'll realize what a great guy you are and reciprocate your affection. Good luck.


Couldn't say it better myself.


"alright i might as well explain why i say i know... or think she has some interest for me... about a week ago one of the mutal friends of ours ask her what she thought of me, and her reply was something to "he is a really sweet guy, he is always so nice to me" the friend asked if she would ever date someone like myself to which she replied "i think i could see myself dating him"... it went something like that... i spose i could scrounge around in my trillian logs but i'm too lazy.

"nice guy..." she's being nice too... and that's it.

Could and would.... two different things.... and Yeah, I could see myself dating so and so ... IF all the other top 200 guys on my list are dead..... Know what I mean?

Oh, unless she's saying somthing like "Of course I would date him" or "I wish he would ask me out", what we have here is someone who's not interested in you.