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What?s next after capitalism falls apart in the US?
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Steeplerot
Lifer
Please, dont start the childish analogies from bill oreilly for kids of why you being a corrupt greedmonger is better then *gasp* being a evil person who shares.
BlancoNino
Diamond Member
Exactly. Who is more greedy? The person who earns their money or the person who feels they are entitled to it through force?
Steeplerot
Lifer
Then please feel free to arm yourself and open fire on the irs when they come to "steal" from you..damn the man making me pay my share! :laugh: you guys are a laugh riot.
Steeplerot
Lifer
You quoted the wrong person methinks.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Ah, yes such wit. And a dodge too. How quaint.
Steeplerot
Lifer
FIght the power vic, you dont owe anyone anything even though our whole society costs someone something, what a rebel you are, you pulled yourself up by your own bootstraps didnt you, there STEALING from you by making you contribute to what you use. How dare they! :laugh:
I guess you were raised and live in a teepee in siberia and dont owe anyone anything.
Vic
Elite Member
There was no dodge, you completely misunderstood my statement. You want to force others to "give" because you do not give. How hard is that to understand? Your lazy unintelligent worthless ass hasn't earned anything to give. You're so focused on yourself that you can't see beyond that except to condemn others who actually do work to earn beyond themselves so that they can give.
Now... we've been down this path before... do you wish to humiliate yourself again?
Steeplerot
Lifer
"A DAY IN THE LIFE OF SELF-MADE MAN WHO EARNS WHAT HE IS AND GETS!"
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
Vic
Elite Member
I don't get your obvious straw man/red herring. I pay my taxes in full and on time. And please don't pretend you know anything about economics, taxation, etc. It has been proven that you don't.
Back on topic, we were discussing the use of taxation, not to pay for the cost of society, but as a means of forceful wealth redistribution. Do you have anything besides meaningless rhetoric to contribute to that discussion, rot?
Vic
Elite Member
Yawn. You're not describing my life or my views. Simply what you would like to twist into believing is my life and my views because you are so shallow and hateful that you would like to believe that you personally are responsible for saving the world and making sure that everyone else knows it.
And if you're going to copy-and-paste something that is not your own work, proper ettiquette usually demands that you credit your source.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Yeah, becasue hiding in your moms basement crying about how the evil tax man and governemnt are crooks and out to get your precious allowance money and making you contribute to the society you are part of (when you go outside once a year) doesent fit that scenerio huh? my bad.
Steeplerot
Lifer
:laugh:
Oops, whats this on last page.
Cry more, and tell us how you dont owe anyone anything becasue your money is yours and you dont need to contribute ok? What a rebel you are, like I said, fight the power, and good luck gunning down that evil taxman as he comes to steal whats rightfully yours.
Poor poor victimized conservatives why doesent the world realize it owes you everything.
this just shows the socialists/anti-capitalists arent about being fair, they are about gaining power. Power that are either too lazy or just not good enough to get on thier own through accumulation of money. They dont want rich people like Bill Gates donating money to charity, they want to take his money, absorb it into massive govt run programs, and do what they think is "best" for society. God forbid we let the people who earn thier money decide how to spend it, no no, we know how to spend it better :roll:.
Steeplerot
Lifer
lol no its about the fact that his "charitable" donations were just a low attempt to cover for his cheating greedy monopolistic self and not a honest attempt to help anyone, but this is pretty standard. As long as your ass is covered its ok to lie cheat and steal from the public, and be a crook, its the american way and the fastest way to be the wanna-be rich's hero, screw people, get rich and get away with it, any idiot could do it a hero of "working" class americans.
To all the optimists who think the party can go on forever, I disagree. Capitalism in its current form is not sustainable. To sustain itself capitalism requires constant growth because investors demand a return on their capital. However, the only way to fuel this growth is with constant inputs of energy and to a lesser extent other raw materials. All over the world, energy consumption is directly proportional to GDP. Energy means oil and electricity, most of it from coal. We have enough coal for a while, so except for the pollution we'll be ok on the electricity side. We know the cheap oil will run out sooner. When that happens you'll have less energy, less economic activity, and a crash in the financial markets.
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