What rights do I have to leave the house?

EnragedPC

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I am 17 and I genuinely hate my home and my parents, its been miserable for me for about 7 years now...I HATE IT...WHat choices do I have to get out of this house and live somewhere else or preferably by myself?...i live in PA if that matters...Im not just complaining about something i genuinely HATE my living conditions...
 

Viper GTS

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Short of being emancipated, not many.

You're currently subject to curfew, unable to enter a legal contract, and (likely) unable to provide for yourself.

Tough it out 'til you're 18, then leave.

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You are old enough to leave now, but I seriously have to tell you that it will SUCK. Unless your parents are abusing you they are almost certainly better than the alternative. I know a guy who left his parents because he hated his dad and it was not a pretty picture. He was working two fast food jobs and had a dumpy apartment with no spare money. Being on your own like that is extremely difficult and will SERIOUSLY curb your ability to grow in the future, like having the money and support to increase your education and what not.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: EnragedPC
I am 17 and I genuinely hate my home and my parents, its been miserable for me for about 7 years now...I HATE IT...WHat choices do I have to get out of this house and live somewhere else or preferably by myself?...i live in PA if that matters...Im not just complaining about something i genuinely HATE my living conditions...

By yourself? I'm 23 and can't afford to live by myself. :p

Anyway, Viper's right. Tough it out one more year and then go to college and never look back if that's what you want to do.
 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Short of being emancipated, not many.

You're currently subject to curfew, unable to enter a legal contract, and (likely) unable to provide for yourself.

Tough it out 'til you're 18, then leave.

Viper GTS
Ouch I thought it was 16. Oh well :(
 

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Originally posted by: EnragedPC
I can support myself yes.

Can you?

How much do you make? How much do you have in savings? What are your expenses?

How much do you currently pay for, if anything?

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Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Short of being emancipated, not many.

You're currently subject to curfew, unable to enter a legal contract, and (likely) unable to provide for yourself.

Tough it out 'til you're 18, then leave.

Viper GTS

This means you can't rent an appartment. You'll have to find a buddy to bunk with.

amish
 

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To support oneself the bare minium I think would be this per month:

hellhole apartment: $400/month if living expenses are cheap in your area.
power bill: 40
phone: 25
cable: 30
Food: 150
other expenses like buying clothes/shoes: 100

That's about $750/month after taxes and that will let you barely survive. That won't give you money for going to a movie, or deductibles if you have to go to the doctor, bus fare, etc. That is truly scraping by. It also won't give you any money left over in case you happen to lose your job.

You'll also be limiting your opportunities. You can't really go to college on that, so chances are you may pick the military.
 

Adul

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You'll also be limiting your opportunities. You can't really go to college on that, so chances are you may pick the military.

that isn't such a bad idea, but then you probaly wish you where at home while in boot camp. But you will come out better for it.
 

UglyCasanova

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The only option I can think of is if you have a friend who you can stay with, but I don't think it's a very good idea. Are your parents going to help you out with college $? If so, then wait a year (or whenever you graduate HS) and move out when you go to college. This way you really will be able to support yourself.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
To support oneself the bare minium I think would be this per month:

hellhole apartment: $400/month if living expenses are cheap in your area.
power bill: 40
phone: 25
cable: 30
Food: 150
other expenses like buying clothes/shoes: 100

That's about $750/month after taxes and that will let you barely survive. That won't give you money for going to a movie, or deductibles if you have to go to the doctor, bus fare, etc. That is truly scraping by. It also won't give you any money left over in case you happen to lose your job.

You'll also be limiting your opportunities. You can't really go to college on that, so chances are you may pick the military.
I have to say that power can be a lot higher than that. Plus you'll be stuck in not having any spare money for fun stuff. Listen to Skoorb....he knows all.

I moved out when I started college and ended up moving off campus after my second year. I was fortunate to find a roommate eventually, but just my move-in costs were around $1000 for deposits and buying all the stuff I needed. (furniture, cookware, etc). Trust me, it's easy to forget the value of the dollar when you don't actually earn it to begin with. If your parents have provided for you, don't hate them for that at least. Respect them for it....I know plenty of people who literally have nothing.

 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Adul
You'll also be limiting your opportunities. You can't really go to college on that, so chances are you may pick the military.

that isn't such a bad idea, but then you probaly wish you where at home while in boot camp. But you will come out better for it.

I didn't think about that. In all honesty if you absolutely have to leave the military is probably your best bet. Get some kind of deal to where they pay your education, and you're set. It won't be easy, but like Adul said, you really will come out better for it.
 

MichaelD

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I dont' know your situation at home but I was also very unhappy living at home. We had four people crammed into a one-bedroom apartment, my dad was miserable at his job and took it out on his kids.

It's very demeaning to be 6'1" and have have a father that is 5'8" punch you in the face and then he looks at you and says "Boy, if you ever hit me back, you'll be out on the street before I get up off the floor!" and you can't do a damn thing. :| I left when I was 18...and had a miserable life for many years after that.

You cannot support yourself, trust me.

Do you have any felony convictions? If not, join the military. You can join at 17 with parental consent. You will get the hell out of there, get three hots and a cot, get paid decently (after three years) and you never have to look back.

Good luck to you.
 

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One more thing...

It may seem like we are stomping all over your dream, but we are trying to introduce you to reality in the least painful way.

I'm 20, I moved out when I was 19. I made over $30K then, & still do, so I've had a relatively easy time. But I STILL don't have a lot of free money. And I don't have a car or car insurance either.

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Noriaki

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I don't presume to judge your circumstances but I see two choices,

Tough it out a few more months, and go to college as soon as you can get out of high school
or
Join the military. The way I understand they'll even help pay for higher education...hell go career military. There are many many worse ways to live than serving your country in the military.

Edit: Not sure if you caught the implication so lets just be very clear, I meant to imply that living on your own at 17 without a decent job or education is one of the ways that is worse.
 

Muadib

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Well, I just saw a kid about your age in a brand new Carrera 4. with PA plates. If that was you, then I say go for it! You should have no trouble getting by if you sell the Porsche, or better yet keep it, and find a hottie to move in with. However, if this wasn't you, have you really thought this through? What do you make a year? What about school? What about your brothers and/or sisters?
 

EnragedPC

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I average making about $2000/per month....living expenses are VERY low in my area...i can get a nice 2 bedroom apt. for $200-250/month....paying for all this is not a problem...its finding a way to move out that is a problem...i was wondering if theres any laws or options or anything that can get me out of this house.
 

ROTC1983

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Wow, what do you do for a living? I am 19 and only make like 800 dollars a month...only working 20 hours though..
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: EnragedPC
I average making about $2000/per month....living expenses are VERY low in my area...i can get a nice 2 bedroom apt. for $200-250/month....paying for all this is not a problem...its finding a way to move out that is a problem...i was wondering if theres any laws or options or anything that can get me out of this house.

Jsut move out. If your parents want to FORCE you to move back in with them, tell them to screw off. If they try to bring the court system into it, you'll be 18 by the time anything gets done anyway. Go out and rent an apartment.
 

CaesarX

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No matter how much you hate them, i would suggest sticking with your parents for as long as you can. Like it or not, without them, you're pretty much fvcked. You will need to work full-time to pay for the rent/food/clothing/misc and will probably have no time left for education. Even if you do make it through high school, you will never save up enough money for university or college with expenses of that size. So like i said, stick with them. Love em or hate em, milk em for all you can.

edit: Just read your post - lucky you, you make enough money, and if you can save 1500/mo, you can easily save up enough for university or whatever. So move out, what's stopping you? Just don't give your new address to your parents, because if they find it, they can probably legally force you to move back in with them until you're 18. Which brings me to my next question: why not just wait until you're legally an adult?