What normally gets done in a car tune up?

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Lifer
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A tuner with a trained ear or professional equipment will come by and gently loosen/tighten the strings until they are in tune.










:p
 

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Most auto shops house a 40-foot toddler that is specially trained to insert a large key into your car and wind it to max capacity. I thought everyone knew that?
 
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spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor, air filter, oil change is a basic tune-up

possibly a couple other things, or possibly not the distributor depending on the car
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor, air filter, oil change is a basic tune-up

possibly a couple other things, or possibly not the distributor depending on the car


all that plus fuel filter and timing adjustment.
 
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor, air filter, oil change is a basic tune-up

possibly a couple other things, or possibly not the distributor depending on the car


all that plus fuel filter and timing adjustment.

i knew i was forgetting something...
 

Kelemvor

Lifer
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Heh, lots of places do a Tun-Up by simply changing your spark plugs and that's it.

You really need to ask these days.
 

Demon-Xanth

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What it used to be:
Replace spark plug wires
Replace rotor
Replace spark plugs
Replace cap
Re-tune the carburator
Replace points and condenser if needed
Adjust spark timing
Adjust choke
Change oil
Top off fluids

No carb, no distributor, and EFI makes it changing the oil and spark plugs (usually changing the oil is a seperate charge)
 

wasssup

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Heh, lots of places do a Tun-Up by simply changing your spark plugs and that's it.

You really need to ask these days.

So true.
 

j00fek

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor, air filter, oil change is a basic tune-up

possibly a couple other things, or possibly not the distributor depending on the car


all that plus fuel filter and timing adjustment.

i knew i was forgetting something...


rotate the tires too, but iv never seen a garage do a fuel filter and timing adj. :confused:
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Yeah... it's not like it used to be. Nowadays it's like:

Change Oil and Filter
Inspect xxx
Inspect zxy
Inspect xxz
Inspect yzx
Inspect zzz
Inspect yzy
Inspect yyx

So that all you get done for the tune up price is the oil change; then they just LOOK at other things and if they need attention they ask for more $$$.

BTW what kind of car are we talking about (or is this just a general question)
 

OS

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
What it used to be:
Replace spark plug wires
Replace rotor
Replace spark plugs
Replace cap
Re-tune the carburator
Replace points and condenser if needed
Adjust spark timing
Adjust choke
Change oil
Top off fluids

No carb, no distributor, and EFI makes it changing the oil and spark plugs (usually changing the oil is a seperate charge)


heh, if that, since many new cars now come with 100K life spark plugs. "tune up" might not have any more meaning on new cars.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: OS
heh, if that, since many new cars now come with 100K life spark plugs. "tune up" might not have any more meaning on new cars.

I think on most Lexuses they just make sure that the credit card is operating properly by applying a $200 charge on it.
 

mk52

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: OS
heh, if that, since many new cars now come with 100K life spark plugs. "tune up" might not have any more meaning on new cars.

I think on most Lexuses they just make sure that the credit card is operating properly by applying a $200 charge on it.

LOLOL
 

OS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: OS
heh, if that, since many new cars now come with 100K life spark plugs. "tune up" might not have any more meaning on new cars.

I think on most Lexuses they just make sure that the credit card is operating properly by applying a $200 charge on it.

lol, my friend has a new TL, he had some 10K mile service and the deaker charged him $150 to look at his fluids and tighten his lugnuts.

I told him he should have just given me $100 to slap him instead.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor, air filter, oil change is a basic tune-up

possibly a couple other things, or possibly not the distributor depending on the car
all that plus fuel filter and timing adjustment.
Most new cars have coil packs, not a distributor, and thus have no timing adjustment. Fuel Filter has its own interval that is shorter than the "tune-up" interval, so does the air filter.

For a typical modern car:
Air Filter: 15,000-30,000 miles.
Fuel Filter: 30,000-60,000 miles.
Coil Packs: Life of vehicle.
Spark Plugs: 100,000 miles if platinum.
Plug Wires: 100,000 miles.

For advertising purposes, a "tune-up" generally only means changing the plugs and wires, hence all the "No tune-up until 100,000 miles!" claims on TV.

ZV
 
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A tune up also depends on your gender.

Don't forget the Serp belt. It's $40 for the belt and $90 to install it.
I don't let anyone work on my vehicles except myself. I can do all the maint. stuff myself. It's waste of time and money to have a garage keep your car all day to do a 20 minute job and charge you for 3-4 hours of work, plus shop fees and fluid disposal fees(that's why we have drains in the street right ;))
 

sao123

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor, air filter, oil change is a basic tune-up

possibly a couple other things, or possibly not the distributor depending on the car
all that plus fuel filter and timing adjustment.
Most new cars have coil packs, not a distributor, and thus have no timing adjustment. Fuel Filter has its own interval that is shorter than the "tune-up" interval, so does the air filter.

For a typical modern car:
Air Filter: 15,000-30,000 miles.
Fuel Filter: 30,000-60,000 miles.
Coil Packs: Life of vehicle.
Spark Plugs: 100,000 miles if platinum.
Plug Wires: 100,000 miles.

For advertising purposes, a "tune-up" generally only means changing the plugs and wires, hence all the "No tune-up until 100,000 miles!" claims on TV.

ZV



despite distributers being replaced with coil packs, there is still spark timing to be adjusted.
and the fuel filter change is more pertainant to older carberator vehicles and less to fuel injection ones.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: sao123
despite distributers being replaced with coil packs, there is still spark timing to be adjusted.
and the fuel filter change is more pertainant to older carberator vehicles and less to fuel injection ones.

The computer controls the spark timing. There is no way at all to adjust the timing mechanically on my car. And fuel filters are just as important as they ever were.
 

sao123

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: sao123
despite distributers being replaced with coil packs, there is still spark timing to be adjusted.
and the fuel filter change is more pertainant to older carberator vehicles and less to fuel injection ones.

The computer controls the spark timing. There is no way at all to adjust the timing mechanically on my car. And fuel filters are just as important as they ever were.

i never said it was a mechanical adjustment, just that it is adjustable.... but tuneup garages wouldnt have the computer would they???
nahhhhh...

/sarcasm.
 

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: sao123
despite distributers being replaced with coil packs, there is still spark timing to be adjusted.
and the fuel filter change is more pertainant to older carberator vehicles and less to fuel injection ones.

The computer controls the spark timing. There is no way at all to adjust the timing mechanically on my car. And fuel filters are just as important as they ever were.

i never said it was a mechanical adjustment, just that it is adjustable.... but tuneup garages wouldnt have the computer would they???
nahhhhh...

/sarcasm.

The computer itself takes care of the spark timing based on a crank position sensor. THERE IS NOTHING TO ADJUST.
 

OS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: sao123
despite distributers being replaced with coil packs, there is still spark timing to be adjusted.
and the fuel filter change is more pertainant to older carberator vehicles and less to fuel injection ones.

The computer controls the spark timing. There is no way at all to adjust the timing mechanically on my car. And fuel filters are just as important as they ever were.

i never said it was a mechanical adjustment, just that it is adjustable.... but tuneup garages wouldnt have the computer would they???
nahhhhh...

/sarcasm.


you have no clue
 

Krazefinn

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Timing not adjustable any more, and many not even marked to view with a strobe lamp.

Sparkplugs routinely now call for 100k miles, no cap/rotors. Wires occasionally.

But even with all the OBD III computer carp, when something does fail, have to start changing sensors, modules, switches sytematically until problem found. At $80/hr and hundreds of dollars each piece. You would think the trouble code could identify the exact failed component. Service is the cashcow now...little margin selling cars, but parts and service more valuable now than pure platinum.
 

Scarpozzi

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Well...they help the overall performance of you car by reducing the drag weight of your wallet.