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MagickMan said:
Sure was. Maybe you should? :hmm:
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I know what a straw man is. It is a misrepresentation of your opponent's position. Unfortunately for you, sportage never claimed any of that was michal's position. He was simply showing parallel logic.
 
dank69 said:
I know what a straw man is. It is a misrepresentation of your opponent's position. Unfortunately for you, sportage never claimed any of that was michal's position. He was simply showing parallel logic.
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The hell he didn't, are you blind? He purposely set up ridiculous parallels, as if the person he was quoting would support them too.
 
MagickMan said:
No, they've been talking about it all morning, people noticed.
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I guess it depends on who is talking about it.

On CNN's front page: "A House plan to undermine Obamacare but keep the government running is voted down again by the Senate, as is a call for a conference committee."

I guess Obama underminded it when he pushed back the business mandate.
 
eskimospy said:
No it was not, and it was a tertiary demand, not the source of the shutdown.
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It was part of the initial demand along with the Contra funding issue. Compromise was eventually reached by Dems backing off the Fairness Doctrine issue and negotiating on the Contra spending issue. To frame it as tertiary is bullshit...it was one of major disagreements that Dems cited as justification for the shutdown.
 
MagickMan said:
Because the current USSC won't let it trump states' rights, Roberts won't let that happen. 😛
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You're clueless. The constitutionality of the ACA has already been upheld by SCOTUS. That's the end of the story. The only question was if the ACA was a valid exercise of federal power, and it was ruled to be so. If the federal government's exercise of power is valid, it immediately overrides anything the states do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

After you get out of economics class, head across the hall to civics 101.
 
nixium said:
Don't believe the stuff you hear when Cruz & Lee are stuffing it into you, they're just mad at Obama.

Shithead.
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The best part of Obama ran out of his mother's ass. Lucky for him you were there to lick it up. Right?

Peabrain.

This is pretty distasteful, even by P&N standards. -Admin DrPizza


Thanks, that's some of my best work! 😀
 
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eskimospy said:
You're clueless. The constitutionality of the ACA has already been upheld by SCOTUS. That's the end of the story. The only question was if the ACA was a valid exercise of federal power, and it was ruled to be so. If the federal government's exercise of power is valid, it immediately overrides anything the states do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

After you get out of economics class, head across the hall to civics 101.
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No, it wasn't, not in direct opposition to the 10th Amendment, moron. That wasn't even what the case was about. 🙄 Try paying attention.
 
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