What new hardware features are left for smartphones?

jondeker

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Smartphones have been evolving rapidly but it seems like there isn't much new stuff to add.

After this year, most premium smartphones will have dual camera, hdmi, high res screens.

Aside from regular updates of cpu/gpu/ram, what's left?


2 I've read about:
* Wireless tv connection.
This is obviously a long ways off because it would need to be commonplace for tv's to have a standard receiver built in. However it would be pretty cool if you could just walk up to a tv and use it as an extended screen. You could show easily show photos/videos to group of people in living room.

* Proximity sensor for screen.
Computer mouse has hover/mouseover effect. The proximity sensor would simulate that for smartphone when you hover your finger over an area of screen.



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* Pixel qi screen
Would be great for people who use phone outdoors a lot. ipad vs pixel qi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NotK4TVQ-6E

* Glasses-free 3d
It's coming to nintendo ds. There will likely be a few attempts to bring it to phones.

* Mobile tv
It seems mobile tv is prevalent in other countries. Maybe usa carriers will push adoption to try lessen video consumption over network or maybe 4g makes this unnecessary.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/technology/31mobiletv.html
 
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TheWart

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Faster (run more intensive programs/videos without problems). Longer battery life (so you can do those 'faster' things without the battery dying in 3 hours).

Faster wireless chips....better quality screens (higher dpi etc).
 

akugami

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@TheWart & Bateluer

I'd label "faster", "longer batter life", and "dual core cpu's" as being under the "regular updates of cpu/gpu/ram" that jondecker listed. It also doesn't, in and of itself, add any new features to the phone. It just makes it faster and or last longer.

As for today's smart phones, they're pretty full featured even today. Most of what's left is more in the way of software rather than the hardware itself.

I can see them switching to a USB3 interface instead of with current connector cables which uses USB2. USB3 should allow speeds fast enough to perhaps act as a video output with an appropriate adapter.

A higher speed connector multi-function connector to allow not just syncing with a computer but also to interface with various add ons. While this application doesn't need high speed connections, one of the vendors we are talking to has a prototype iPhone device which connects with a barcode scanner to get very accurate barcode scanning. This can be used in conjunction with inventory software for things like inventory management and tracking.

I've seen other hardware add ons like a credit card scanner, IR remote, chemical sniffer, keyboards (typing and musical). I'm sure people can come up with some killer add ons to phones with a high speed connector.

I don't want any extra connectors such as HDMI (mini or otherwise) because this adds unnecessary bulk and cost to the phone and can be replicated using a high speed connector bus. The space taken up by a mini HDMI slot would be put to better use by fitting a larger battery in there.

Basically I think phones should not be loaded up with the kitchen sink as far as connectors and slots go. Wifi, Bluetooth (or perhaps a higher speed wireless upgrade), audio, small memory card, sim card, and a high speed multi-function connector. That's it. We don't need an included HDMI slot. We don't need RCA jacks. We don't even need a dedicated USB jack.

Phones should concentrate on acceptable performance coupled with stellar battery life. For the short term, within the next 5 years, we should concentrate more on stellar battery life. Today's high end smart phones are actually pretty powerful.
 

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Smartphones have been evolving rapidly but it seems like there isn't much new stuff to add.

After this year, most premium smartphones will have dual camera, hdmi, high res screens.

Aside from regular updates of cpu/gpu/ram, what's left?


2 I've read about:
* Wireless tv connection. This is obviously a long ways off because it would need to be commonplace for tv's to have a standard receiver built in. However it would be pretty cool if you could just walk up to a tv and use it as an extended screen. You could show easily show photos/videos to group of people in living room.

* Proximity sensor for screen. Computer mouse has hover/mouseover effect. The proximity sensor would simulate that for smartphone when you hover your finger over an area of screen.

So the proximity sensor would be to emulate a mouse over? Why do that at all? I mean, why not design new paradigms?

And as Akugami pointed out, at this point most of the smartphones are hardware-wise, pretty powerful devices. I mean we are talking 1GHz CPU with 256MB+ of RAM and 16GB+ storage. So a device that fits in the palm of our hands that is roughly equivalent to a Pentium 3 desktop from 9 years ago.
 

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Akugami, as far as *not* including all that stuff, why not? I can understand not on every phone, but the whole thing with *smartphones* is that they are more or less little PCs in your pocket. Some people would probably prefer to not have to also carry a laptop when they have a device that could accomplish everything they need with just a couple extra ports.

And as far as USB goes...hell, most of them already use the micro-USB connector for charge/sync. They can use that one for other devices anyways I would think.

As far as features...companies should be bludgeoned if they don't include autofocus cameras with a flash. Grrr...

edit: okay here's an idea....you know those virtual keyboards that just use a laser or something to draw it on a table? How about that? Include the kickstand which doubles as TV antenna for viewing, and combine with the mini-HDMI port you have an easy transition to quick desktop use! :p
 

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I'd like to see HD radio on more devices. I'd also like to see more phones with dedicated flashlights and not just co opting the flash LEDs, especially since there should be a xenon flash and not an LED one.
 

AstroManLuca

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I think phone processors have a long way to go and that improving them will dramatically increase the software features available. Hard to say what new hardware features we'll see, but just getting faster processors will enable so much. I think right now phones are overburdened with features, even the most powerful ones aren't fast enough to do everything people want.
 

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I want a dock that allows me to pop in my phone and immediately have an LCD monitor, keyboard/mouse, and printer connected.
 

Brian Stirling

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I'll make my list fully knowing that some/all will be oppossed by some here:

1. Larger and higher resolution display. We are now up to 4.3 inches and within a couple years I think we'll see some pushing beyond 5 inches. There are quite a few here and of course the Apple fanboys are stuck at the "perfect" size of 3.6 inches but I think there will be a market for guys like me that will prefer something in the 5 inch range but with a resolution of, 1920x1080.

2. A package size that minimizes the bezel size to keep the physical size of the phone with a 5 inch screen to a minimum. However, I'd argue for a thicker and heavier package so that a nice big battery can be installed. A battery capable of running the phone full out all day and two or more days under normal use. Battery must be user replaceable and I'd look at a stock battery in the 3500mAHr range or over 12WHrs.

3. More RAM, say 2GB

4. 16GB-64GB or built in storage AND an SD card slot. No, not a micro SD card slot but a full SD card slot. This phone is big enough to handle a full sized SD card. I'd also make sure the SD card was SDXC compliant to be able to handle upwards of 2TB SD cards.

5. A multi-core uP.

6. A camera of about 8MP with true HD video (1920x1080P). Another camera facing the user for video conferencing -- does not need to be more than 720P. It needs a true zoom lens of about 5X range and it must do macro well. Must also be able to focus and zoom while shooting video.

7. Built in wireless charging loop/coil.

8. Multi-user hotspot.

9. Finger print scanner for security.

10. METERED BILLING PLAN somewhere along the lines of $30/month plus $1.50/GB.


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akugami

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Akugami, as far as *not* including all that stuff, why not? I can understand not on every phone, but the whole thing with *smartphones* is that they are more or less little PCs in your pocket. Some people would probably prefer to not have to also carry a laptop when they have a device that could accomplish everything they need with just a couple extra ports.

Well. It's not that I'm saying don't have extra connectivity. It's just that I feel the space taken up by extra jacks could be better put to use by including a larger battery. It's a portable device and battery life is in many ways king. Space is at a premium on such a small device so a multi-function connector port makes more sense IMHO. These ports also add costs to the base device when it may not be used all of the time or not used at all by many people.

A high speed connector that can be used to replicate different jacks or connectors is my personal preference. You can configure the device with whatever you need, when you need it. Of course, this adds another accessory to carry which is a negative but you likely won't need to carry it all of the time.

An example is maybe an HDMI port so you can use the smart phone as a media playback device. Well, how often are you going to use that HDMI port? Some people won't even use it at all. Would you like all smart phones to have a FM transmitter even though it won't be used often or at all by most people? Again, people can buy and carry the accessories they need/want while the rest are free to not have to pay the costs of said accessories.

It'd be cool to have a smart phone that is as powerful as a i7 CPU but not if you can barely get an hour out of it. I just feel that today's high end smart phones are actually quite powerful and there remains a lot of untapped potential. Keep in mind I'm all for a more powerful smart phone, just not at the expense of battery life.

And as far as USB goes...hell, most of them already use the micro-USB connector for charge/sync. They can use that one for other devices anyways I would think.

I think micro-USB was based on USB 2.0 (of course I could be wrong) and there's nothing wrong with USB 2.0 but I'm not sure it's good enough for media playback over something like HDMI. Plus you'd still need USB to HDMI adapter.

But I think there might have been some confusion over my USB comment. I have nothing against using something like USB, just that if we have a USB port, we don't need another port like the iPod/iPhone port. I'd rather have one high speed connector, whatever it may be.

As far as features...companies should be bludgeoned if they don't include autofocus cameras with a flash. Grrr...

Agreed. Some features are really puzzling from an omissions standpoint. The flash LED's on some phones are actually quite bright and make decent emergency flashlights. I've actually used an older phone I used to have in dim light at times. For example, when troubleshooting a computer, some corners are pretty dark in a computer case.

I'll make my list fully knowing that some/all will be oppossed by some here:

1. Larger and higher resolution display. We are now up to 4.3 inches and within a couple years I think we'll see some pushing beyond 5 inches. There are quite a few here and of course the Apple fanboys are stuck at the "perfect" size of 3.6 inches but I think there will be a market for guys like me that will prefer something in the 5 inch range but with a resolution of, 1920x1080.

I dunno about larger...higher resolution definitely but 1920x1080 on a screen size of 5" or less might be overkill. I'd also say that at a certain point, screen sizes are going to become too large for a phone's footprint. IMHO, 5 inches is too big for a phone. I took a ruler out. Measured it against a couple of phones and it'll be too long, or too wide. I think 4.3 is about the maximum without the phone becoming too bulky in one form or another.

And I wouldn't just go throwing the fanboy comment around. You're just starting a road to negativity when there was none before. There are plenty of what I call "anti-fanboys" around that have a seemingly irrational hatred of certain companies. I'm not trying to call you out, just noting that lately it seems a lot of anti-(pick your company) comments when the conversations are relatively neutral have been creeping into the forums.

2. A package size that minimizes the bezel size to keep the physical size of the phone with a 5 inch screen to a minimum. However, I'd argue for a thicker and heavier package so that a nice big battery can be installed. A battery capable of running the phone full out all day and two or more days under normal use. Battery must be user replaceable and I'd look at a stock battery in the 3500mAHr range or over 12WHrs.

Pretty much every smart phone with a large screen that I've looked at has a very small bezel. Not sure how much smaller you can safely get as far as bezel size goes without a decrease in durability.

At this point, and with current battery tech and CPU, it's either gonna be power or battery life. Yes, you can add a huge battery but at a certain point it gets too bulky. I've seen some people with the iPhone battery pack/skins but they are bulky as hell and not something I want on my phone. It's a portable device that I can stick in my pocket. Not a laptop. I think better battery life is going to have to come from more efficient hardware rather than battery size itself. Battery tech seems to move at a glacial pace compared to other tech so there's not much hope from that department.

3. More RAM, say 2GB

RAM sucks battery power and having more than you reasonably need in a portable device doesn't seem like a good idea because you're wasting power on something you don't need.

To be honest, with the current state of today's hardware, 512MB RAM seems adequate and 1GB is the most I can envision 99% of users currently needing. What you want to do is match all parts of the hardware and software. Considering some of the stuff that people use smart phones for today, I don't think 2GB RAM is needed yet. And I'm someone who has 8GB of RAM in his main gaming rig.

4. 16GB-64GB or built in storage AND an SD card slot. No, not a micro SD card slot but a full SD card slot. This phone is big enough to handle a full sized SD card. I'd also make sure the SD card was SDXC compliant to be able to handle upwards of 2TB SD cards.

I have no problem with an extra memory card slot. But it definitely should be micro. It's a portable device. Space is at a premium. What space is available should be devoted to a larger battery. Having a full sized SD card only takes up extra space that can be put to better use by increasing the battery size.

6. A camera of about 8MP with true HD video (1920x1080P). Another camera facing the user for video conferencing -- does not need to be more than 720P. It needs a true zoom lens of about 5X range and it must do macro well. Must also be able to focus and zoom while shooting video.

I think this one is going to remain a dream for quite a bit longer unless optical technologies changes substantially. You're going to hit a huge wall with the quality of the pictures taken by the lenses of cameras in a phone. The limited space available in a smart phone also limits the size of the camera's sensor further limiting quality. There is only so much you can reasonably do with consumer tech at this point and in the near future.

Increasing the resolution will not increase the quality. Don't fall for the megapixel myth. With the larger lens and sensors, a pocket camera that can take a 5 megapixel image will be better than an 8 or 10 megapixel image from a phone's camera. There are already a few phones with 8 megapixel cameras. However, the quality isn't much better than a top quality 5 megapixel camera phone.

7. Built in wireless charging loop/coil.

Definitely wholeheartedly agree with this.
 

Raduque

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I think they need more smartphones with good hardware keyboards.

5 inch range but with a resolution of, 1920x1080.

1920x1080 is a bit much on a 5" screen. That's over 2,000,000 pixels mashed into something around the size of a 3x5 notecard. Imagine somebody then managed to print half of Hamlet on that notecard. Not pleasant.

Higher MP cameras capable of taking HD video is all well and good, but something needs to be done about the audio input side of things. Even the Evo 4G's mic produces crappy, tinny, low-fidelity audio even when recording in HD. Get better mics!

Include the kickstand and combine with the mini-HDMI port you have an easy transition to quick desktop use! :p

Oh, you mean the like the Evo 4G? :awe:
 
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I think they need more smartphones with good hardware keyboards.
1920x1080 is a bit much on a 5" screen. That's over 200,000 pixels mashed into something around the size of a 3x5 notecard. Imagine somebody then managed to print half of Hamlet on that notecard. Not pleasant.

Higher MP cameras capable of taking HD video is all well and good, but something needs to be done about the audio input side of things. Even the Evo 4G's mic produces crappy, tinny, low-fidelity audio even when recording in HD. Get better mics!



Oh, you mean the like the Evo 4G? :awe:

Not really a 5" screen is pretty big. Canon's 50D/T1i/7D/5D2 SLRs all have 920k resolution on a 3" screen. I bet you if you use any of these cameras like I do, and you go back to the old lower res screens on a 3" screen, it's like whoah... ugly. 1920x1080 on a 5" screen isn't horrible, but in terms of usability for the typical things we look at on a smartphone, its not necessary. Just text after all....
 

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Battery life. Everything keeps improving except for battery life. It has gotten to the point of being a joke. With heavy use eight hours is the norm outside of the iphone.
 

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Throughout the modern age as technology has been developing most would stand back and think "wow, how could things become any more advanced". However, time has proven that technology will continue to develop and also will give rise to previously not-considered invention.

So I think it's safe to say that just because we can't see from here where wireless technology is headed, there is PLENTY more advancement left.
 

Raduque

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Not really a 5" screen is pretty big. Canon's 50D/T1i/7D/5D2 SLRs all have 920k resolution on a 3" screen. I bet you if you use any of these cameras like I do, and you go back to the old lower res screens on a 3" screen, it's like whoah... ugly. 1920x1080 on a 5" screen isn't horrible, but in terms of usability for the typical things we look at on a smartphone, its not necessary. Just text after all....

No, a 5" screen is not large enough for 1920x1080. That's higher resolution than my 20.1" desktop LCD. A bit much for a handheld device display. I think something about the 1280x960(or 800) would probably be a good size for a 5" display for a smartphone.
 

Brian Stirling

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Well. It's not that I'm saying don't have extra connectivity. It's just that I feel the space taken up by extra jacks could be better put to use by including a larger battery. It's a portable device and battery life is in many ways king. Space is at a premium on such a small device so a multi-function connector port makes more sense IMHO. These ports also add costs to the base device when it may not be used all of the time or not used at all by many people.

A high speed connector that can be used to replicate different jacks or connectors is my personal preference. You can configure the device with whatever you need, when you need it. Of course, this adds another accessory to carry which is a negative but you likely won't need to carry it all of the time.

An example is maybe an HDMI port so you can use the smart phone as a media playback device. Well, how often are you going to use that HDMI port? Some people won't even use it at all. Would you like all smart phones to have a FM transmitter even though it won't be used often or at all by most people? Again, people can buy and carry the accessories they need/want while the rest are free to not have to pay the costs of said accessories.

It'd be cool to have a smart phone that is as powerful as a i7 CPU but not if you can barely get an hour out of it. I just feel that today's high end smart phones are actually quite powerful and there remains a lot of untapped potential. Keep in mind I'm all for a more powerful smart phone, just not at the expense of battery life.



I think micro-USB was based on USB 2.0 (of course I could be wrong) and there's nothing wrong with USB 2.0 but I'm not sure it's good enough for media playback over something like HDMI. Plus you'd still need USB to HDMI adapter.

But I think there might have been some confusion over my USB comment. I have nothing against using something like USB, just that if we have a USB port, we don't need another port like the iPod/iPhone port. I'd rather have one high speed connector, whatever it may be.



Agreed. Some features are really puzzling from an omissions standpoint. The flash LED's on some phones are actually quite bright and make decent emergency flashlights. I've actually used an older phone I used to have in dim light at times. For example, when troubleshooting a computer, some corners are pretty dark in a computer case.



I dunno about larger...higher resolution definitely but 1920x1080 on a screen size of 5" or less might be overkill. I'd also say that at a certain point, screen sizes are going to become too large for a phone's footprint. IMHO, 5 inches is too big for a phone. I took a ruler out. Measured it against a couple of phones and it'll be too long, or too wide. I think 4.3 is about the maximum without the phone becoming too bulky in one form or another.

And I wouldn't just go throwing the fanboy comment around. You're just starting a road to negativity when there was none before. There are plenty of what I call "anti-fanboys" around that have a seemingly irrational hatred of certain companies. I'm not trying to call you out, just noting that lately it seems a lot of anti-(pick your company) comments when the conversations are relatively neutral have been creeping into the forums.



Pretty much every smart phone with a large screen that I've looked at has a very small bezel. Not sure how much smaller you can safely get as far as bezel size goes without a decrease in durability.

At this point, and with current battery tech and CPU, it's either gonna be power or battery life. Yes, you can add a huge battery but at a certain point it gets too bulky. I've seen some people with the iPhone battery pack/skins but they are bulky as hell and not something I want on my phone. It's a portable device that I can stick in my pocket. Not a laptop. I think better battery life is going to have to come from more efficient hardware rather than battery size itself. Battery tech seems to move at a glacial pace compared to other tech so there's not much hope from that department.



RAM sucks battery power and having more than you reasonably need in a portable device doesn't seem like a good idea because you're wasting power on something you don't need.

To be honest, with the current state of today's hardware, 512MB RAM seems adequate and 1GB is the most I can envision 99% of users currently needing. What you want to do is match all parts of the hardware and software. Considering some of the stuff that people use smart phones for today, I don't think 2GB RAM is needed yet. And I'm someone who has 8GB of RAM in his main gaming rig.



I have no problem with an extra memory card slot. But it definitely should be micro. It's a portable device. Space is at a premium. What space is available should be devoted to a larger battery. Having a full sized SD card only takes up extra space that can be put to better use by increasing the battery size.



I think this one is going to remain a dream for quite a bit longer unless optical technologies changes substantially. You're going to hit a huge wall with the quality of the pictures taken by the lenses of cameras in a phone. The limited space available in a smart phone also limits the size of the camera's sensor further limiting quality. There is only so much you can reasonably do with consumer tech at this point and in the near future.

Increasing the resolution will not increase the quality. Don't fall for the megapixel myth. With the larger lens and sensors, a pocket camera that can take a 5 megapixel image will be better than an 8 or 10 megapixel image from a phone's camera. There are already a few phones with 8 megapixel cameras. However, the quality isn't much better than a top quality 5 megapixel camera phone.



Definitely wholeheartedly agree with this.


Actually a number of the things I'd like to see depend on a slightly larger physical package. To get a decent 5X zoom lens you are going to need to be about as thick as the compact digitals are. 5X may be pushing it but certainly 3X.

A 5 inch screen with a minimized bezel doesn't need to push the package size much larger than the Evo but it will be a bit bigger. Also, to get a decent battery I see no way around making the phone thicker and once you bite that bullet you have more room for the zoom lens. If your going to have a 5 inch screen with video capabilities of 1080P why not go the full 9 and make the native resolution of the screen a direct match for HDTV at 1920x1080.

Yes, 2GB of RAM will eat more power than 1GB but not much more and with current feature sizes driving down to 30nm and less the power requirements become trivial particularly when you have that larger battery I mentioned.

Finally, I'd opt for a full sized SD card over uSD for several reasons: first, cost, a full sized SD card is half the price of a comparably sized uSD. Additionally, the capacity is on the order of half or less that of full SD. Lastly, the SD cards tend to be much faster. With a phone the size I'm talking about there will be more than enough room for a full sized SD card.

Remember we are talking about the future here -- aren't we?
 
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No, a 5" screen is not large enough for 1920x1080. That's higher resolution than my 20.1" desktop LCD. A bit much for a handheld device display. I think something about the 1280x960(or 800) would probably be a good size for a 5" display for a smartphone.

Like I said, it depends what you want. For us photogs, the Canon T2i's new 1.04 million pixels on a 3" screen is amazing. Ask anyone in that field if they want to go back.

5" is certainly large enough for 1920x1080 which is only 2.07 million pixels... double of what the T2i gets.... btw did some math and thats 1248x832 on a 3" screen. Yeah. Better than a Mac Book.

You may be right it's higher resolution than your desktop LCD or something, but it's like comparing totally different devices. TVs have terrible resolution compared to computer monitors... and computer monitors are different from handheld devices also. Pixel density varies device to device.

Now from a practical standpoint of what people do on their phones, it's too high of a resolution to do anything practical. You're right. 1280x960 or 800 should be perfectly fine for 99.99&#37; of all users. In fact 800x480 works already for most people and most people are more than satisfied with the iPhone resolution.

Also I'm sure rendering a 1080p screen on a 5" device will spell processing power issues. On a camera, we can appreciate the detail at that resolution but it's not because we render fancy transitions and stuff.
 
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Battery life. Everything keeps improving except for battery life. It has gotten to the point of being a joke. With heavy use eight hours is the norm outside of the iphone.

This is the thing that's taken huge steps back. On the other hand I suspect this is a mobile OS issue and device issue.

1) Android phones pack 1400-1500mAh batteries but the OS itself is a battery hog. Not optimized at all compared to the iPhone OS, but with all the data syncing and pulling and apps not closing, you bet battery dies in no time. Turn off BG sync and your battery life triples or something

2) iPhone battery is tiny. Come on. It's no 1400mAh monster. What do you expect? Even software battery saving features like no multitasking, low res screen, etc etc can't save the iPhone.

I think these are relatively easy fixes for the industry. Nokia has demonstrated with its S60 phones that battery life shouldn't be an issue. Now if only they can revamp the OS....
 

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Like I said, it depends what you want. For us photogs, the Canon T2i's new 1.04 million pixels on a 3" screen is amazing. Ask anyone in that field if they want to go back.
You keep talking about camera displays, but I'm failing to see how that's relevant to communication/entertainment devices. That camera's screen only has to do one thing: display pictures. I can guarandamntee you wouldn't want to read Anandtech on it (well, unless you like having to pump up the text size or zoom in till you can only read 3 words at a time).

Now from a practical standpoint of what people do on their phones, it's too high of a resolution to do anything practical. You're right. 1280x960 or 800 should be perfectly fine for 99.99&#37; of all users. In fact 800x480 works already for most people and most people are more than satisfied with the iPhone resolution.
Exactly, and it's why I think 1920x1080 is too much for a 5" screen. It might look absolutely beautiful for pictures and video, but it's going to suck balls to do anything else on. I'd also say that way way way less than even .01% of cellphone consumers will miss ultra high resolution displays.

1920x1080 which is only 2.07 million pixels...
Oops, missed that digit in the middle of the calculator display. Fixed that in my first post.
 
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You keep talking about camera displays, but I'm failing to see how that's relevant to communication/entertainment devices. That camera's screen only has to do one thing: display pictures. I can guarandamntee you wouldn't want to read Anandtech on it (well, unless you like having to pump up the text size or zoom in till you can only read 3 words at a time).


Exactly, and it's why I think 1920x1080 is too much for a 5" screen. It might look absolutely beautiful for pictures and video, but it's going to suck balls to do anything else on. I'd also say that way way way less than even .01% of cellphone consumers will miss ultra high resolution displays.


Oops, missed that digit in the middle of the calculator display. Fixed that in my first post.


I think the Evo is going to drive a lot more data use because I think the larger 4.3 inch display WILL make viewing web pages more practical. Now, going to the even larger 5 inch display and spending time surfing the net becomes practical.

I will gaurandamtee that before you know it we WILL have phones with 5 inch screens and not long after that they will be 1920x1080. This might not happen next year or the next three of four years but sooner or later it will happen. When folks say you don't need 1920x1080 on a phone I'm reminded of the too numerous to count examples of that statement being made and then proven wrong almost before being made. Why would you ever need more than 1MB or RAM -- that one was real popular about 25 years ago. As it turns out, people find a way to use WHATEVER you can provide them.


Brian
 

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updated OP


I think the Evo is going to drive a lot more data use because I think the larger 4.3 inch display WILL make viewing web pages more practical. Now, going to the even larger 5 inch display and spending time surfing the net becomes practical.

I will gaurandamtee that before you know it we WILL have phones with 5 inch screens and not long after that they will be 1920x1080. This might not happen next year or the next three of four years but sooner or later it will happen. When folks say you don't need 1920x1080 on a phone I'm reminded of the too numerous to count examples of that statement being made and then proven wrong almost before being made. Why would you ever need more than 1MB or RAM -- that one was real popular about 25 years ago. As it turns out, people find a way to use WHATEVER you can provide them.


Brian


i agree manufacturs will keep pushing size limits until sales fall off, but i think that limit will be reached at ~4.3inch for simple limitation of being pocketable.

how will you carry around a 5" phone?