What movies portrayed proper handgun handling and use?

[jtvang125]

So many movies today tend to go for the cool factor of shooting one handed, diving or rolling while shooting. What I respect more are movies that emphasizes accurracy and being realistic.

I always thought Collateral was suprub in this aspect. From taking down the two theives to the shootout in the club, great gun handling.

Heat was another good one. The shootout at the end was excellent.

 

[DeadByDawn]

the way of the gun

 

[RagingBITCH]

Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

 

[JasonSix78]

Can't think of any more off the top of my head. Heat was a great movie, I've watched it more times than I can count.

-Jason

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

IIRC, in Heat during the bank robbery they all shot from the shoulder. It's not hard to go full auto standing up firing properly from the shoulder.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: jtvang125

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

IIRC, in Heat during the bank robbery they all shot from the shoulder. It's not hard to go full auto standing up firing properly from the shoulder.

They didn't fire from the shoulder all the time.

 

[tanz]

heat's pretty realistic cause when they aim they were in a stance, not diving in midair or anything like that.
the reason heat and collateral are both like that is because michael mann directed both of them (both kick @$$ btw)

 

[K1052]

Heat

L.A. Confidential

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

The actual rifles used in Heat (well, the real life ones...not the prop guns) are not difficult to control when shooting from a standing position. Recoil is fairly mild, you don't need much support to fire them accurately in that manner.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

The actual rifles used in Heat (well, the real life ones...not the prop guns) are not difficult to control when shooting from a standing position. Recoil is fairly mild, you don't need much support to fire them accurately in that manner.

Gotcha. My Marine buddy told me it's rather difficult firing the older M16's (A2 I believe? Maybe A3?) on full auto without some serious recoil/nose driving up in the air. Not like all out waste the clip as fast as you can, but "controlled" bursts.

 

[JDrake]

Terminator

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
the way of the gun

I was suprised they could move carrying that many .45 mags on them.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

The actual rifles used in Heat (well, the real life ones...not the prop guns) are not difficult to control when shooting from a standing position. Recoil is fairly mild, you don't need much support to fire them accurately in that manner.

Gotcha. My Marine buddy told me it's rather difficult firing the older M16's (A2 I believe? Maybe A3?) on full auto without some serious recoil/nose driving up in the air. Not like all out waste the clip as fast as you can, but "controlled" bursts.

Really? I've fired the AR-15 (semi-auto civilian version similar to M-16) and recoil is very mild. I can unload a 30rnd clip in about 15 seconds easily. I can also do that with a MAK-90 which is chambered in 7.62x39mm and does have more recoil. The muzzle will wander a bit but it's not hard to keep it pointed where you want with a little practice.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Was the gun handling in Heat accurate though? You're using automatic rifles standing up with no base of support, yet they were accurate enough to pwn the crap out of those cops.

And in Collateral - was that really accurate too? The flip over and shoot two guys while on your back between your legs? The double tap?

The actual rifles used in Heat (well, the real life ones...not the prop guns) are not difficult to control when shooting from a standing position. Recoil is fairly mild, you don't need much support to fire them accurately in that manner.

Gotcha. My Marine buddy told me it's rather difficult firing the older M16's (A2 I believe? Maybe A3?) on full auto without some serious recoil/nose driving up in the air. Not like all out waste the clip as fast as you can, but "controlled" bursts.

Really? I've fired the AR-15 (semi-auto civilian version similar to M-16) and recoil is very mild. I can unload a 30rnd clip in about 15 seconds easily. I can also do that with a MAK-90 which is chambered in 7.62x39mm and does have more recoil. The muzzle will wander a bit but it's not hard to keep it pointed where you want with a little practice.

Full auto != 3 shot burst. I've fired the AR15 too (only a handful of times). Maybe he was just a pussy.

 

[bradruth]

I immediately thought Collateral when I clicked on the thread.

 

[misle]

Black Hawk Down was very good in the way they portrayed firearm usage (mainly rifles).

 

[maximus maximus]

See Antonio banderas in desperado.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: maximus maximus
See Antonio banderas in desperado.

Ugh.

 

[ThunderLew]

I think HEAT and Collateral are good examples. First of all, you don't see that dumb ass actors with their fingers on the trigger when they are just holding the gun (I wish they would change that... would be great for safety purposes). Also, while Tom Cruise fired from that on the back position, he did get up to a kneeling stance.

As far as I can remember in HEAT, the robbers were firing in bursts, not full auto most of the time. You also have to try to distinguish when the robbers are actually shooting to kill and just spraying the general area.

One more thing about collateral and the club scene... Tom Cruise reloads when he should have... no endelss mags in that movie!

 

[MixMasterTang]

Originally posted by: jtvang125
So many movies today tend to go for the cool factor of shooting one handed, diving or rolling while shooting. What I respect more are movies that emphasizes accurracy and being realistic.

I always thought Collateral was suprub in this aspect. From taking down the two theives to the shootout in the club, great gun handling.

Heat was another good one. The shootout at the end was excellent.

My friend that teachs Martial arts said the scene in the alley way where Tom Cruise kills those two guys after getting his case back was done wrong, because when Tom Cruise grabs the guy with the gun he actual pulls the guys arm with the gun towards himself.

 

[Yossarian]

There was a cool "making of Collateral" on HBO one time, it's probably on the dvd too. Tommy boy did a lot of training to get the gun handling right.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Other than Heat and Collateral, I think Jarhead does it pretty well. Whenever they are holding their guns, and not firing, the fingers are not on the trigger, they are in a "safety" position.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: joedrake
Terminator

exactly what i thought of as soon as i read the topic. but thats because i read the imdb trivia awhile back and its something thats always just stuck with me.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was trained for weeks on weapons handling before he started the film, and wound up garnering a compliment in "Soldier of Fortune" magazine for his realistic handling of the guns on camera (whereas the magazine usually lampoons movies for their inaccurate depictions of weapons use).

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: K1052
Heat
L.A. Confidential

Yup. They actually made an effort to learn proper handling techniques from the 1950's. It was one of many little things that helped give the movie authenticity.

Not sure about Heat though.

 

[myusername]

How about the foley work in 8mm?