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what middlemen are actually necessary?

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BlahBlahYouToo

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was just reading the nj banned tesla from directly selling to buyers, requiring sales to go through a dealership.

all middlemen do is increase the cost of goods and services. real estate agents, headhunters, car dealerships... none are necessary imo.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
was just reading the nj banned tesla from directly selling to buyers, requiring sales to go through a dealership.

all middlemen do is increase the cost of goods and services. real estate agents, headhunters, car dealerships... none are necessary imo.
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Some placement firms lower the cost of in-house HR.

Real estate agents is a personal decision, so to whoever use them, they must value what it costs them more than listing it themselves.

When car dealerships force legislation to protect their business that is bad, it would be the same if real estate agents forced legislation that homeowners can't buy a house without one.

IMO let the consumer decide and we'll arrive at the most people being happy.
 
lawyers are pretty necessary for many people.

retailers in general are necessary for 99% of the goods out there.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
was just reading the nj banned tesla from directly selling to buyers, requiring sales to go through a dealership.

all middlemen do is increase the cost of goods and services. real estate agents, headhunters, car dealerships... none are necessary imo.
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Well the middlemen make good money. Money enough to lobby for the legislation so as to not disrupt their middlemen money making gravy train. This is the root of the problem with politics.
 
I think you are looking at it wrong. Not all wholesalers are dying to sell directly to consumers. They would rather concentrate on the product, not deal with leasing space, hiring store employees, dealing with consumer returns, exchanges, etc. Also they can ship more product and let it sit on someone else's shelves instead of their own.

What NJ does isn't surprising, since I believe they are one of the commie states that requires a middleman to pump your gas.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
was just reading the nj banned tesla from directly selling to buyers, requiring sales to go through a dealership.

all middlemen do is increase the cost of goods and services. real estate agents, headhunters, car dealerships... none are necessary imo.
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Absolutely correct. I'll never purchase goods from a middleman again.

Excuse me though, I've got to run. My car is low on gas and the nearest refinery is in East Texas. See you in a few days.
 
I think I have a pretty good handle on the drugs that can be used recreationally. But if I actually became sick, I sure wouldn't want GlaxoSmithPfizerMerckLily trying to sell me cancer drugs directly.

Also taking your own trash to the dump is a pain in the ass.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
was just reading the nj banned tesla from directly selling to buyers, requiring sales to go through a dealership.

all middlemen do is increase the cost of goods and services. real estate agents, headhunters, car dealerships... none are necessary imo.
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They might not be necessary from an efficient economy standpoint, but they are needed from a society standpoint. Without all the middlemen then half the country would be unemployed. Maybe the few actual producers who have real jobs would get a few things cheaper, but most things would be even MORE expensive to pay for the armor upgrades to the Wal-Mart truck because they get raided every time they leave the warehouse in the Mad Max lawless society in which we would live.

This thread reminds me of the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
 
In Breaking Bad at least, it seemed that middle men didn't last too long....sometimes art does imitate real life.
 
waiters?

and from a time/money perspective, some people would rather pay more to only have to deal with one person rather than spend more time having to deal with a dozen people just to save a few bucks (eg: hiring a contractor and letting him handle hiring plumbers/painters/electricians)
 
loki8481 said:
waiters?

and from a time/money perspective, some people would rather pay more to only have to deal with one person rather than spend more time having to deal with a dozen people just to save a few bucks (eg: hiring a contractor and letting him handle hiring plumbers/painters/electricians)
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There are about 50 things I wish I had a middleman on right now. I have too much on my plate and my brain is shutting down.

But then I actually think about it and for a lot of those things, I am the middleman.

Ho humm
 
purbeast0 said:
you just explained pretty much what a real estate agent does too.
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what do they do that i can't?
with MLS sites, i can view houses on the market, call and schedule a visitation with the owner, negotiate a price on my own behalf, let the lawyer handle all the legal paperwork, and save the seller/myself 5-6%.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
what do they do that i can't?
with MLS sites, i can view houses on the market, call and schedule a visitation with the owner, negotiate a price on my own behalf, let the lawyer handle all the legal paperwork, and save the seller/myself 5-6%.
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you can also do everything lawyers do too, if you take the time to learn how to do it. same thing, many people don't have the want/time to learn what an agent does. granted, it's not even close to the time it would take to do what a general lawyer can do, but it's the same concept. and you'd save yourself a ton of money as well, just like with not using a real estate agent.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
what do they do that i can't?
with MLS sites, i can view houses on the market, call and schedule a visitation with the owner, negotiate a price on my own behalf, let the lawyer handle all the legal paperwork, and save the seller/myself 5-6%.
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Tell you when you are being a dumbass
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
what do they do that i can't?
with MLS sites, i can view houses on the market, call and schedule a visitation with the owner, negotiate a price on my own behalf, let the lawyer handle all the legal paperwork, and save the seller/myself 5-6%.
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Let you into the house to see it so you don't need to plan your schedule around multiple listing agents.
 
BlahBlahYouToo said:
what do they do that i can't?
with MLS sites, i can view houses on the market, call and schedule a visitation with the owner, negotiate a price on my own behalf, let the lawyer handle all the legal paperwork, and save the seller/myself 5-6%.
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A little research will give you all the information a lawyer needs too

A lawyer and RE agent are very similar in regards to being paid to do work that people might be incapable of doing. It's just a matter of how much work you have to do to save that money. For you, you'd rather do the work and save the money than have to pay a RE agent. For my friend, he and his ex-wife divorced without involving lawyers. Lots of other people would rather pay for somebody else to do it, just to make sure it's done right. I personally think I got my money's worth from my RE agent as a 1st time home buyer. Probably wouldn't use one again though.

HOWEVER: there are a lot of different situations where a lawyer can be invloved, so there's a lot of grey area on if you can actually do it yourself or not (or if it's worth saving the money).
 
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