What memory for E4300 overclock

[cnhoff]

Hi,

i have decided to go with an E4300 cpu for my overclocked system.

Assuming that i might probably get around 3.6 GHz or a bit more max (maybe less, but i don't want the RAM to be limiting) the desired RAM should go to 430 MHz.

Can i get away with value 667 RAM or should i buy midrange DDR2-800?

How important is CL4 in comparison to CL5 with the C2D platform?

All things considered, what 2GB Combo would you suggest, that would not hinder overclocking and does not cost an arm and a leg?

Thanks

 

[Cheex]

Any DDR2-800 should do fine with the E4300. If you manage to get to 400MHz FSB (memory stock) you'll be at 3.6GHz which is highly unlikely at this point. Plus any DDR2-800 memory should be able to get you like 10% so....at 440FSB (DDR2-880) maybe with a little extra voltage...I don't see memory being a limitation for you.

Me personally, I'm waiting to get one of these or the E4400 with the 10x multiplier.

Bottom Line: Get some DDR2-800 Memory.

 

[cnhoff]

Ok,

and what about the impact of CL4 over CL5?
We are talking about 30-50 Euro price difference here...

 

[Cheex]

Well, I'm not that up on RAM timings but its a general fact that lower timings improve performance but IMO that is only really noticeable in memory intensive applications. You might need a second opinion on that one but for me I would probably just go ahead and get the CL5 memory and save some money or put it towards something else. With increases in voltage, CL5 RAM have been know to run stable at CL4.

My Opinion: Get some CL5 DDR2-800 Memory....

 

[cnhoff]

Good

A G.Skill DDR2-800 CL5 kit can be had for 169 Euro (=213$) right now, whereas any DDR2-800 CL4 puts you well above 220 Euro (=286$).

 

[Cheex]

Well there you have it. I may have just helped you to make your decision. There's your RAM.

 

[cnhoff]

Here are some interesting pages on latencies and clock speeds:

X-Bit labs bandwidth vs. latency

Bottom line: for the most part differences between DDR2-800 CL4 and CL5 are in the 0-3% region and not worth the immense extra cost for budget E4300 overclockers imho.

@Cheex: You sure have...

 

[Cheex]

Thanks for the link.

It is good to know that I helped....

 

[nyker96]

just need DDR2-800 any regular 800 will do up to 3.6Ghz OC which should be sufficient for most possbile OC results.

 

[VooDooAddict]

DDR2-800 CL5 is good bang for the $$.

I prefer DDR2-800 that doesn't need more then 1.8v-1.9v to run stock 5-5-5-12 timings @ 800Mhz

It bothers me that some RAM that are lists as 2.1v-2.3v or 2.0v-2.2v as needed for "stock" ...

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: cnhoff
Hi,

i have decided to go with an E4300 cpu for my overclocked system.

Assuming that i might probably get around 3.6 GHz or a bit more max

dont see that happen btw x)

 

[Cheex]

Sorry to burst your bubble OP but you only have about a 3-5% chance to get an E4300 to 3.6GHz. That would be a 100% OC !!!

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

Originally posted by: cnhoff
Hi,

i have decided to go with an E4300 cpu for my overclocked system.

Assuming that i might probably get around 3.6 GHz or a bit more max

dont see that happen btw x)

He didn't tell us the motherboard and cooling he's planning to use... so you never know.

I'm just happy helping people get setup with over clocks from 2.8 - 3.2

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

i have seen oc results for E4300 from shocking (2400MHz max.) to very good (3Ghz and more). So maybe and just maybe there is less reliability and we should wait before we expect too much of these cpus. we dont have enough results yet.

 

[Roguestar]

An 800Mhz overclock isn't shocking.

 

[cnhoff]

While i concur with you, that 3.6 GHz is likely to be a little too high (BUT i want to be prepared memory-wise) i have not read a single review with really disappointing oc success.

Anandtech and X-Bit labs both reached 3.4 GHz without significant problems, so why should i expect anything less than 3.2 GHz, given that i will use a P5B Deluxe and a Scythe Ninja Plus in a case with good airflow? Anand states he used stock cooling :Q

Of course one can always have bad luck, but where did you read about this 2.4 Ghz overclock?

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
An 800Mhz overclock isn't shocking.

shocking like in "omg thats all?!"

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: cnhoff
While i concur with you, that 3.6 GHz is likely to be a little too high (BUT i want to be prepared memory-wise) i have not read a single review with really disappointing oc success.

Anandtech and X-Bit labs both reached 3.4 GHz without significant problems, so why should i expect anything less than 3.2 GHz, given that i will use a P5B Deluxe and a Scythe Ninja Plus in a case with good airflow? Anand states he used stock cooling :Q

Of course one can always have bad luck, but where did you read about this 2.4 Ghz overclock?

thing is u never know and it always depends on the cpu u get thats all.

take a look here, german review translated with babelfish
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis...%2freview-core2duo4300%2b6300-14.phtml

 

[cnhoff]

There is just another new article stating a painless 3.47GHz overclock with an E4300

E4300 vs E6300 overclocked

The 6300@3.5Ghz is essentially on par with the 4300@3.47GHz, despite the much higher FSB and memory performance.

Just get me right, i don't want to start a flame war between E6xxx and E4xxx guys, but i for myself have finally settled on buying an E4300 with cheaper memory for total savings of about 110$ here in Germany. The saved chash goes right into an 1950XT->8800GTS upgrade which makes the new rig even more powerful.

E6300 might be faster up to 5% or not, my decision is clear, but may everybody get happy his/her way Both systems would be incredibly fast.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

sounds good. keep in mind that next month the new middle class G80 cards may be launched though.
and for my disencouraging talk about the possibility of low overclocks..its just a possibility, good luck

 

[Dazza]

Well i ordered an E4300, 2GB Corsair Dominator 6400C4 memory (like the look) and an ASUS P5N32-E board. I have a Thermalright 120 Ultra and am hoping for 3.6GHz, with this Thermalright cooler i have been able to overclock gigher then my Koolance watercooling and is quiet too

Now i have seen alot of people getting 3600MHz but you NEED at least 1.6v which is quite high. So beware you need decent cooling

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

report back how high u were abel to get it. today a bro wrote me that he has three e4300 and two of them wouldnt even hit more than 250MHz fsb and that there is a also some problems with different motherboards, look like bios manufacturers have still some work to do.

 

[Dazza]

Funny enough i have heard of this with one of the reviews, saw on xetremesystems they had a striker do 400Mhz FSB the P5N32-E is infact a striker minus the features. I know some poeple removed the stickers and has ASUS striker on the board. So FSB should hopefully mbe good for me lets hope. I also heard that the P5N32-E may have ATA133 issues and mayneed to use SATA so i am going to get a couple of SATA DVD Writers too.

 

[lopri]

Any D9 sticks from reputable vendors will do. These D9 sticks are so similar in their behaviors that there is no point paying premium unless you're a professional bench guru. The popularity of D9 comes from its versatility. Whether you're aiming for 800MHz with tight timings or 1000MHz+ with looser timings, these sticks will suit your need as long as adequate ammount of voltages (and cooling if possible) are supplied. In that sense, I don't think a memory recommendation for E4300 would be any different from those for E6x00.

 

[Cheex]

1) How can I know which memory chips are Micron D9?
2) Also, what is so special about D9 chips?