What martial arts should I learn?

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TSDible

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I will through in my thoughts here. What others are saying about your body type is completely correct. Pick something that fits you.

If you are fairly athletic and did well and enjoyed TKD, I would consider Tang Soo Do. They both come from the Korean Mu Duk Kwon but [in general] Tang Soo Do stayed more traditional in its techniques and teachings. In general, TSD does not focus on tournaments, but instead on self defense and knowledge. Of course you can always find traditional TKD schools and TSD schools that focus on tournaments.

When I started in TSD, I was student number 2 out of 2. My instructor wasn't in it for the money, and to this day he holds a daytime job even though he has hundreds of students. The bar is set fairly high by the association that I'm a member of. I wouldn't study anything that just hands out black belts. I've meet too many people that got their black belt in a year. It took me 3 years and that is pretty much the minimum I would say. (training 2-3 times per week).

For instance... in my style the minimum requirements for master rank (4th Dan) include much more than just training. You must attend a "masters camp" which is held once a year (at least twice because you are pretty much guaranteed to fail the first time you go). You also have to write a masters thesis just as you would for a college degree. The soonest that you could do all of this is 9 years after you get your initial black belt. But with the guaranteed fail, you are looking more at 10 years. Most take longer. And that is just for your 4th degree. For 6th degree, or what we consider an "international master" You are required to have a second language on top of all the other requirements.

Even the lower Dan ranks have educational requirements. To me, that is as important as the physical training. For each of my 2 Dan ranks I have recieved, I had to write a paper on a topic that I have chosen. If you look real hard, they may still be out there on the web someplace. :) I don't remember where. Of course, I have come a long way since then, so don't make fun if you find them.

As far as other arts go, I can't push anything that I haven't trained in. I do like Hapkido as well as others have suggested. It can be a devastating self defense or fighting art.

Take everything that anybody says here with a grain of salt. You need to find what is best for you. Don't let any instructor talk you in to something that is not right for you.

TSDible
E Dan and Instructor of TSD


 

virtuamike

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Originally posted by: JMaster
Originally posted by: Koing
JMaster you must be pretty sufficient with a black belt 1st Dan in TKD right?

Have you entered in competitions that are full contact? Can you 720" then kick? Can you do many acrobatic moves?

Me I'm only personally interested in full contact fighting and moves that are very acrobatic that look cool (not for fighting prefences but because they look cool and I think spinning and flipping looks amazing, also the reason why I do gymnastics also). Hoping to enter into a competition sometime this year to see how I fair up.

I used to be pretty acrobatic. I used to be able to do a 720 and kick, but it's never really used at all during full contact sparring. In fact, there isn't much spinning at all except to counter another attack. I only learned it because I thought it would be cool. If you enter a competition under the lowest belt (I think you have to be at least 3rd belt, which was purple for us) you'll probably do ok if you're pretty acrobatic, but any other class above that, you're gonna need to know how to counter, block, etc...

Thanks for all your input guys, I'll be looking into all your suggestions.

Lucky bastard, 360 was it for me, forget the 720. But I had side -> spin back and split -> roundhouse down. Then I tore my ACL and my TKD days were over.
 

JMaster

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Originally posted by: virtuamike


Lucky bastard, 360 was it for me, forget the 720. But I had side -> spin back and split -> roundhouse down. Then I tore my ACL and my TKD days were over.

Hehe, well look at it this way. You don't really need the fancy shmancy stuff. In fact, it's a minus. If someone did a 720 in front of me I would probably have already beat him mentally.
 

nord1899

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Hmmm, maybe I can get some advice in this thread (rather than start a new one).

I'm 6'1", 225lbs. I'm interested in finding a martial art primarily for physical conditioning (weight, balance, endurance, strength) with a secondary aspect in self-defense. Competitions do not interest me at all nor does getting the belts quickly. The few sports I do that I would like to be able to improve on are soccer and snowboarding. From what little I know, traditional martial arts are what I would do best in.

So what martial art should I look out for?

thanks.

EDIT: and please give reasons, not just one line answers.
 

NorthRiver

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I am a 30 year old guy with a bum back. Would Tai Chi be an option for me? I would really love the conditioning.
 

iamme

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only on ATOT can you have people asking how to get rid of their beer guts, and martial arts experts living in harmony :)

any question about martial arts always gets a ton of responses.
 

NorthRiver

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Not really a beer drinker;)

Just found out that my back is on its way to mush, and need to find something to keep me in shape:)

I deliver beer for a living, and that is not an option anymore. Heavy lifting is out.
 

Matt

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I would say that if you are in for the exercise I would recommend Thai Boxing since I feel that you get a very good workout from it. Also, if you are interested in sparring, Muay Thai does offer good technics at all distances. IMHO TaeKwonDo do have a lot of nice kicks which you unfortunately can't use too much at competitions. You will have a lot of use of your previous technics if you would choose to start with Muay Thai.

Aikido I feel is a bit too much of a lame sport with your background since it doesn't involve too much of a workout and virtually no sparring.
There are quite a few other ones that I think you might enjoy like Savate, Jun Fan kickboxing or similar.
Just my thoughts. ;-)

/Matt

Judo 1980-86
Shotokan Karate 1990-95
Muay Thai 95-
 

phaserx

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: phaserx
Originally posted by: H34D0N
take Hop-Ki-Do its a very interesting class and its very effective if the moment spurs it.

Ho-Ki Po-Ki?

Hapkido, you ignorant *****!
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HAH! Did you get it at least? :p
 
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Originally posted by: phaserx
Originally posted by: Jehovah

Hapkido, you ignorant *****!
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HAH! Did you get it at least? :p

I guess . . ..

Originally posted by: nord1899

I'm 6'1", 225lbs. I'm interested in finding a martial art primarily for physical conditioning (weight, balance, endurance, strength) with a secondary aspect in self-defense. Competitions do not interest me at all nor does getting the belts quickly. The few sports I do that I would like to be able to improve on are soccer and snowboarding. From what little I know, traditional martial arts are what I would do best in.

So what martial art should I look out for?

In the short run, maybe Muay Thai or Kyokushinkai Karate, as they'd beat you down and make you into a monster (Mas Oyama, founder of Kyokushinkai, used to fight bulls and win, and also was able to cut off bottlenecks of beer bottles with his finger) but I'd steer away from the more "external" styles if you can (there's two broad categories of martial arts: "external", and "internal", and then it's further categorized) - guarenteed arthritis at 30 doesn't appeal to me much (if you train "right") . . ..
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- Of course, it's a little late for me now :eek:. But anyhow, if you just want to get fit, maybe you'd like them, who knows.

Originally posted by: NorthRiver

I am a 30 year old guy with a bum back. Would Tai Chi be an option for me? I would really love the conditioning.

I'd recommend Chen style TaijiQuan/Tai Chi (there's more than one style of TaijiQuan) - but if you're interested in purely "conditioning", other styles of TaiChi wouldn't matter (but they tend to focus on QiGong [healing aspect of TaiChi or other internal styles] only, and some practitioners of martial arts disagree since it's supposed to be a martial art, but I digress).