<< Washington D.C. 45.5
Fort Worth, TX 13.5
Los Angeles, CA 11.7
New York, NY 9.1
Seattle, WA 8.4
---------------------------
Vancouver, BC 2.8
Montreal, QC 2.0
Toronto, ON 1.3 >>
One is Canada, one is US.
We have guns.
Lots of them.
<< Washington D.C. 45.5
Fort Worth, TX 13.5
Los Angeles, CA 11.7
New York, NY 9.1
Seattle, WA 8.4
---------------------------
Vancouver, BC 2.8
Montreal, QC 2.0
Toronto, ON 1.3 >>
One is Canada, one is US.
We have guns.
Lots of them.
What happened to needy people in the US before "compassionate" democrats and bloated government? They were taken care of by families, churches, and other philanthropic organizations.
"Helping the needy" is just an excuse for pols to build their power base.
Think they give a rat's ass?
"Helping the needy" is just an excuse for pols to build their power base.
Think they give a rat's ass?
<< America is a melting pot and very diverse, wheras Canada is not, at least not any where near the extent of the US. I mean we have people dieing to get across the US border, and Canada really doesn't have that problem. No offense, just noting the obvious. >>
Canada's more a "quilt" than a "melting pot". You have every kind in the cities.. while the suburbs are more predominately white. I used to live in a semi-rural suburb, where practically everyone was white. I'm part indian, and I was easily distinguishable from the others. However here in the city, I apparently look like "any other white boy". Go figure
"Believe what you will, but i'd sure hate to see this country run totally by republicans. What exactly are democrats do that republicans don't? Raise taxes? No. Support welfare? No, republicans do support welfare, but only if it serves them in some way."
Well, sort of heading back on topic there.
The Democrats keep throwing roadblocks up against the one thing that could lift these sorry souls out of poverty... business and jobs. They keep trying to force higher and higher taxes on business, more and more regulations, one outrageous lawsuit after another and wonder why everybody is out of work... DUH! That's one of the biggest issues. We won't even worry now about the coddle the criminal, hobble law enforcement, lefty legislation which adds to the problem... :frown:
Well, sort of heading back on topic there.
The Democrats keep throwing roadblocks up against the one thing that could lift these sorry souls out of poverty... business and jobs. They keep trying to force higher and higher taxes on business, more and more regulations, one outrageous lawsuit after another and wonder why everybody is out of work... DUH! That's one of the biggest issues. We won't even worry now about the coddle the criminal, hobble law enforcement, lefty legislation which adds to the problem... :frown:
<< Whatever, i'm out of this thread, because I just don't feel like fighting an unwinnable argument with people obviously set in their ways, just as I am. I am far from naive, I just know what I see and I see republicans getting rich on the backs of the poor a hell of a lot more then dems do. Oh, and Gore won. HEHE >>
Naive and stupid. Run away before you actually have to defend your argument with facts.
<< The Democrats keep throwing roadblocks up against the one thing that could lift these sorry souls out of poverty... business and jobs. >>
The Dems want to keep the poor in a state of dependency so they are beholden to them.
<< or the very poor (Jesse Jackson) >>
Jesse Jackson pays the mother of his 'love child' several thousand a month for child support. If that's what being "poor" means, good gravy let me be poor.
<< What makes some cities so much more violent than others? >>
Population density and minority population (blacks or hispanics, primarily) are two predominant factors.
<< Take a canadian city and an american city of the same size, and the american one may have a 20x higher homicide rate. This isn't a flame, I just honestly want to know what the reason is behind this? >>
If you compare the non-minority homicide rate in metropolitan areas (cities with 1 million pop or higher) across the US, it doesn't change a whole lot from one area/city to the next (it is relatively low). Those cities with high homicide rates can attribute this difference almost solely to minority homicide rates. IOW, the minority homicide rate is so high it skews the results where ever there is a higher minority population.
<< Those cities with high homicide rates can attribute this difference almost solely to minority homicide rates. IOW, the minority homicide rate is so high it skews the results where ever there is a higher minority population. >>
Crime rate is notably higher in poor ghetto slums of town with lots of deliqnquents and hoodlums. Nothing against a race, but many of those areas are predominantly Mexicans or Blacks. Looking at a newspaper stats that part of town is shaded red in homicide, drug crimes, car jacking, sexual assault, general assault and misc. crime.
Downtown area is FULL of bums and transients it's almost sickening. You can't even enjoy a day in the town without having some stinking guy pester you with the well known "do you spare any change?". They stand in middle of people's friggin way emitting obnoxious odor, ruining the aesthetics of the town. They also lay on the park benches and shutting the locals from enjoying the use such as eating lunch. Every park benches should have divider thing in the middle to keep bums from sleeping on it.
Not necessarily related to my post but statistic on death penalty since 1976.
Persons Executed for Interracial Murders:
White Defendant/Black Victim - 11
Black Defendant/White Victim - 167
That's 1 to 15 ratio :Q
It shows there are alot more white killed by black cases than black killed by white cases.
Source: Death Penalty Information Center
Hmmm, somebody ought to check and see if there is a correlation between our cities that supported Gore and cities that have high violence. I think it's a prevailing attitude. The world owes me a living kind of attitude. When "the world" doesn't come through with the goods, they get cranky!
you guys are smug little partisan asses aren't ya. maybe you don't know that the murder rate in the south has always led the country. Republikan land.
The murder rate in the United States has dropped dramatically in the past few years, but there are wide regional variations in the homicide rate, say experts. For as long as records have been kept, southern states have had by far the highest murder rates in the country -- currently, they are almost double those in the Northeast.
Moreover, the character of murder in the South differs from homicides in the rest of the nation, experts report.
Led by Louisiana -- with a rate of 17.5 murders per 100,000 population in 1996 -- the South's murder rate was almost double that of the Northeast.
The ten states with the lowest homicide rates are in New England and the northern Midwest -- with South Dakota the lowest at 1.2 murders per 100,000.
Southern murders are usually of a personal or traditional nature -- stemming from barroom brawls, a quarrel between acquaintances or a fight between lovers.
Elsewhere, murders typically involve strangers and usually start with another crime -- a robbery gone bad, for example.
High Southern homicide rates challenge the popularly-held belief that murders are highest in densely populated urban areas where crowding and poverty break down traditional social ties and values. Southern homicides have been typically rural.
While the U.S. has more murders than other, comparable countries, it does not necessarily have more crime. For instance, England has a higher rate of burglary, France has a higher rate of auto thefts, and the Netherlands and Australia have about the same total crime rate as the U.S.
Source: Fox Butterfield, "Why America's Murder Rate is So High," New York Times, July 26, 1998
maybe its the repressed southern culture
you guys are smug little partisan asses aren't ya. maybe you don't know that the murder rate in the south has always led the country. Republikan land.
The murder rate in the United States has dropped dramatically in the past few years, but there are wide regional variations in the homicide rate, say experts. For as long as records have been kept, southern states have had by far the highest murder rates in the country -- currently, they are almost double those in the Northeast.
Moreover, the character of murder in the South differs from homicides in the rest of the nation, experts report.
Led by Louisiana -- with a rate of 17.5 murders per 100,000 population in 1996 -- the South's murder rate was almost double that of the Northeast.
The ten states with the lowest homicide rates are in New England and the northern Midwest -- with South Dakota the lowest at 1.2 murders per 100,000.
Southern murders are usually of a personal or traditional nature -- stemming from barroom brawls, a quarrel between acquaintances or a fight between lovers.
Elsewhere, murders typically involve strangers and usually start with another crime -- a robbery gone bad, for example.
High Southern homicide rates challenge the popularly-held belief that murders are highest in densely populated urban areas where crowding and poverty break down traditional social ties and values. Southern homicides have been typically rural.
While the U.S. has more murders than other, comparable countries, it does not necessarily have more crime. For instance, England has a higher rate of burglary, France has a higher rate of auto thefts, and the Netherlands and Australia have about the same total crime rate as the U.S.
Source: Fox Butterfield, "Why America's Murder Rate is So High," New York Times, July 26, 1998
maybe its the repressed southern culture
go republikan land!!!
Overall U.S. murder rate down, but youth gun killings up
January 2, 1999
Web posted at: 6:36 p.m. EST (2336 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The 1997 murder rate in the United States declined to its lowest level in 30 years, but young Americans were killing each other with firearms with greater frequency, the Justice Department reported Saturday.
There were 18,209 murders, or 6.8 for every 100,000 people, the lowest since 6.2 per 100,000 in 1967. The rate was down from highs of 10.2 per 100,000 in 1980 and 9.8 in 1991. In 1950 the rate was 4.6 per 100,000.
"Our cities are now the safest they have been in a generation," the White House said in a written statement. "A variety of studies show that crime, and especially homicide, should continue to decline into the next year, and that is good news for Americans in 1999."
The Clinton administration attributed the declines to a 1994 crime law strongly supported by the president.
The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics released its analysis of FBI crime data for 1997 showing that while city dwellers remained more likely to be murder victims, much of the decline in the murder rate was posted in the nation's largest cities. In cities with populations above 1 million, the murder rate fell from 35.5 per 100,000 in 1991 to 20.3 per 100,000 in 1997.
Still, while firearm killings by 25-year-olds and older plummeted by roughly half to about 5,000 between 1980 and 1997, gun killings by young people 18 to 24 increased from about 5,000 in 1980 to more than 7,500 in 1997.
The report also found that from 1976 to 1997, 85 percent of white murder victims were killed by whites and 94 percent of black victims were killed by blacks.
During the same period, blacks were seven times more likely than whites to be homicide victims and eight times more likely than whites to commit homicides.
Other findings:
Americans 18-24 were the most likely murder victims in 1997, with a rate of 33.2 per 100,000 people.
Murder rates generally were higher than average in the South and on the West Coast and lower in New England and the Rocky Mountain states.
Men were most likely to be the killers and the victims. Men were more than nine times more likely than women to commit murder, and both men and women killers are more likely to target male victims.
In related news, according to preliminary data released from cities nationwide, Chicago is the nation's 1998 murder capital, despite experiencing a 10-year low in murders. The city had 698 homicides in 1998, surpassing New York City's homicide totals for the first time ever. New York saw a dramatic drop in homicides with 629 last year, after a 1990 high of 2,262.
Overall U.S. murder rate down, but youth gun killings up
January 2, 1999
Web posted at: 6:36 p.m. EST (2336 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The 1997 murder rate in the United States declined to its lowest level in 30 years, but young Americans were killing each other with firearms with greater frequency, the Justice Department reported Saturday.
There were 18,209 murders, or 6.8 for every 100,000 people, the lowest since 6.2 per 100,000 in 1967. The rate was down from highs of 10.2 per 100,000 in 1980 and 9.8 in 1991. In 1950 the rate was 4.6 per 100,000.
"Our cities are now the safest they have been in a generation," the White House said in a written statement. "A variety of studies show that crime, and especially homicide, should continue to decline into the next year, and that is good news for Americans in 1999."
The Clinton administration attributed the declines to a 1994 crime law strongly supported by the president.
The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics released its analysis of FBI crime data for 1997 showing that while city dwellers remained more likely to be murder victims, much of the decline in the murder rate was posted in the nation's largest cities. In cities with populations above 1 million, the murder rate fell from 35.5 per 100,000 in 1991 to 20.3 per 100,000 in 1997.
Still, while firearm killings by 25-year-olds and older plummeted by roughly half to about 5,000 between 1980 and 1997, gun killings by young people 18 to 24 increased from about 5,000 in 1980 to more than 7,500 in 1997.
The report also found that from 1976 to 1997, 85 percent of white murder victims were killed by whites and 94 percent of black victims were killed by blacks.
During the same period, blacks were seven times more likely than whites to be homicide victims and eight times more likely than whites to commit homicides.
Other findings:
Americans 18-24 were the most likely murder victims in 1997, with a rate of 33.2 per 100,000 people.
Murder rates generally were higher than average in the South and on the West Coast and lower in New England and the Rocky Mountain states.
Men were most likely to be the killers and the victims. Men were more than nine times more likely than women to commit murder, and both men and women killers are more likely to target male victims.
In related news, according to preliminary data released from cities nationwide, Chicago is the nation's 1998 murder capital, despite experiencing a 10-year low in murders. The city had 698 homicides in 1998, surpassing New York City's homicide totals for the first time ever. New York saw a dramatic drop in homicides with 629 last year, after a 1990 high of 2,262.
Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that the South repeatedly has the highest murder rate. In 1999, it was the only region with a murder rate above the national rate. The South accounts for 80% of executions. The Northeast, which has less than 1% of all executions in the U.S., Has the lowest murder rate.
seems republikans can't execute southerners fast enough
world stats for kicks.
>South_Africa__________1995___________75.30
>Colombia______________1996___________64.60
>Colombia______________2000___________59.
>Latin_America_________1994___________28.4
>Estonia_______________1994___________28.21
>Brazil________________1993___________19.04
>Mexico________________1994___________17.58
>Philippines___________1996___________16.20
>Taiwan________________1996____________8.12
>N._Ireland____________1994____________6.09
>United_States_________1999____________5.70
>Argentina_____________1994____________4.51
>Hungary_______________1994____________3.53
>Finland_______________1994____________3.24
>Portugal______________1994____________2.98
>Mauritius_____________1993____________2.35
>Israel________________1993____________2.32-minus terrorism and stuff i guess
>Scotland______________1994____________2.24
>Canada________________1996____________2.1
>Slovenia______________1994____________2.01
>Australia_____________1994____________1.86
>Singapore_____________1994____________1.71
>France________________1998____________1.64
>South_Korea___________1994____________1.62
>Italy_________________1998____________1.54
>Australia_____________1998____________1.5
>New_Zealand___________1993____________1.47
>Belgium_______________1990____________1.41
>England_and_Wales_____1998____________1.30
>Sweden________________1993____________1.30
>Denmark_______________1993____________1.21
>Germany_______________1998____________1.18
>Austria_______________1994____________1.17
>Greece________________1994____________1.14
>France________________1994____________1.12
>Netherlands___________1994____________1.11
>Switzerland___________1998____________1.06
>Kuwait________________1995____________1.01
>Norway________________1993____________0.97
>Spain_________________1993____________0.95
>Japan_________________1994____________0.62
>Ireland_______________1991____________0.62
south africa :Q :Q
seems republikans can't execute southerners fast enough
world stats for kicks.
>South_Africa__________1995___________75.30
>Colombia______________1996___________64.60
>Colombia______________2000___________59.
>Latin_America_________1994___________28.4
>Estonia_______________1994___________28.21
>Brazil________________1993___________19.04
>Mexico________________1994___________17.58
>Philippines___________1996___________16.20
>Taiwan________________1996____________8.12
>N._Ireland____________1994____________6.09
>United_States_________1999____________5.70
>Argentina_____________1994____________4.51
>Hungary_______________1994____________3.53
>Finland_______________1994____________3.24
>Portugal______________1994____________2.98
>Mauritius_____________1993____________2.35
>Israel________________1993____________2.32-minus terrorism and stuff i guess
>Scotland______________1994____________2.24
>Canada________________1996____________2.1
>Slovenia______________1994____________2.01
>Australia_____________1994____________1.86
>Singapore_____________1994____________1.71
>France________________1998____________1.64
>South_Korea___________1994____________1.62
>Italy_________________1998____________1.54
>Australia_____________1998____________1.5
>New_Zealand___________1993____________1.47
>Belgium_______________1990____________1.41
>England_and_Wales_____1998____________1.30
>Sweden________________1993____________1.30
>Denmark_______________1993____________1.21
>Germany_______________1998____________1.18
>Austria_______________1994____________1.17
>Greece________________1994____________1.14
>France________________1994____________1.12
>Netherlands___________1994____________1.11
>Switzerland___________1998____________1.06
>Kuwait________________1995____________1.01
>Norway________________1993____________0.97
>Spain_________________1993____________0.95
>Japan_________________1994____________0.62
>Ireland_______________1991____________0.62
south africa :Q :Q
And to continue knocking the republikans off their high horses....
Praise the Lord,
Pass the Ammo
Addressing a "God Not Guns" rally of ministers near the Capitol a couple of weeks ago, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay offered this explanation for the Littleton, Colo., killings: "I got an e-mail this morning that said it all. The student writes, 'Dear God: Why didn't you stop the shootings at Columbine?' And God writes, 'Dear student: I would have, but I wasn't allowed in school.' "
The view among Republicans is that adolescent violence is inevitable given the decline of religion. Indeed, until the early 1960s' Supreme Court decisions on school prayer, displays of the Ten Commandments were common. And back then, crime was much less prevalent than today. So, the House voted to undo the "damage" by allowing states to mandate the posting of the Ten Commandments in schools and other public facilities.
In social science terms, the Republicans believe there is a correlation between the influence of religion and obedience to the law. The Ten Commandments prohibit murder, so exposing people to them could tend to discourage lethal violence. The absence of religious faith and norms, on the other hand, might incline someone toward homicide. The argument has particular force in the context of Columbine, where the gunmen asked two girls if they believed in God, and when they answered affirmatively, shot them dead.
The correlation is not implausible, but a correlation is not the same thing as a cause. If we were to discover that none of the killers in the various school shootings were in the habit of eating pancakes for breakfast, we would have established a correlation. But no one would argue that the kids killed because they didn't eat enough pancakes -- much less that the answer to school violence is a national campaign to get children to eat pancakes every day. Once you find a correlation between A and B, you still have to demonstrate that one causes the other.
In this instance, though, conservatives are claiming to have found a cause without even showing a correlation. Why not? Maybe because they can't. The United States is the most religious of all the industrialized nations. Forty-four percent of Americans attend church once a week, compared with 27 percent in Britain, 21 percent in France, 16 percent in Australia, and 4 percent in Sweden. Yet violent crime is not less common in the United States -- it's more common. The murder rate here is six times higher than the rate in Britain, seven times higher than in France, five times higher than in Australia, and five times higher than in Sweden. Japan, where Christianity has almost no adherents, has less violent crime than almost any country. There are a few advanced nations that have high rates of church attendance and low rates of violent crime -- Ireland, Italy, and Belgium -- but they're the exceptions.
Within the 50 states, there is no evidence that a God-fearing populace equals a law-abiding populace. The Bible Belt has more than its share of both praying and killing. Louisiana has the highest churchgoing rate in the country, but its murder rate is more than twice the national average. The same pattern generally holds in the rest of the South. Tom DeLay's Bible-toting state of Texas has a murder rate triple that of Massachusetts, which is "ungodly" enough to have elected two openly gay members of Congress. New York, the very symbol of godless depravity, is perfectly average when it comes to extralegal slaughter. In Washington state, where Sunday morning slugabeds are more common than anywhere else in America, murder is 38 percent less common.
House Republicans have also failed to notice that the school shootings have not occurred in hotbeds of secular humanism -- say, Berkeley, Calif.; Cambridge, Mass; or New York City -- but in towns that Norman Rockwell and James Dobson would be proud to call home. Pearl, Miss.; West Paducah, Ky.; Jonesboro, Ark.; Edinboro, Pa.; and Springfield, Ore., are not exactly Madalyn Murray O'Hair country. Littleton was fertile ground for evangelical churches.
If there is any apparent correlation between the prevalence of Christian devotion and law-abiding conduct, it's the opposite of the one claimed by Republicans: Religion and violence seem to go hand in hand. That doesn't mean faith actually causes murder. But it does suggest that when Republicans contemplate the Ten Commandments, they should pay more attention to the ninth, which prohibits false witness.
by Steve Chapman
Chicago Tribune
Praise the Lord,
Pass the Ammo
Addressing a "God Not Guns" rally of ministers near the Capitol a couple of weeks ago, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay offered this explanation for the Littleton, Colo., killings: "I got an e-mail this morning that said it all. The student writes, 'Dear God: Why didn't you stop the shootings at Columbine?' And God writes, 'Dear student: I would have, but I wasn't allowed in school.' "
The view among Republicans is that adolescent violence is inevitable given the decline of religion. Indeed, until the early 1960s' Supreme Court decisions on school prayer, displays of the Ten Commandments were common. And back then, crime was much less prevalent than today. So, the House voted to undo the "damage" by allowing states to mandate the posting of the Ten Commandments in schools and other public facilities.
In social science terms, the Republicans believe there is a correlation between the influence of religion and obedience to the law. The Ten Commandments prohibit murder, so exposing people to them could tend to discourage lethal violence. The absence of religious faith and norms, on the other hand, might incline someone toward homicide. The argument has particular force in the context of Columbine, where the gunmen asked two girls if they believed in God, and when they answered affirmatively, shot them dead.
The correlation is not implausible, but a correlation is not the same thing as a cause. If we were to discover that none of the killers in the various school shootings were in the habit of eating pancakes for breakfast, we would have established a correlation. But no one would argue that the kids killed because they didn't eat enough pancakes -- much less that the answer to school violence is a national campaign to get children to eat pancakes every day. Once you find a correlation between A and B, you still have to demonstrate that one causes the other.
In this instance, though, conservatives are claiming to have found a cause without even showing a correlation. Why not? Maybe because they can't. The United States is the most religious of all the industrialized nations. Forty-four percent of Americans attend church once a week, compared with 27 percent in Britain, 21 percent in France, 16 percent in Australia, and 4 percent in Sweden. Yet violent crime is not less common in the United States -- it's more common. The murder rate here is six times higher than the rate in Britain, seven times higher than in France, five times higher than in Australia, and five times higher than in Sweden. Japan, where Christianity has almost no adherents, has less violent crime than almost any country. There are a few advanced nations that have high rates of church attendance and low rates of violent crime -- Ireland, Italy, and Belgium -- but they're the exceptions.
Within the 50 states, there is no evidence that a God-fearing populace equals a law-abiding populace. The Bible Belt has more than its share of both praying and killing. Louisiana has the highest churchgoing rate in the country, but its murder rate is more than twice the national average. The same pattern generally holds in the rest of the South. Tom DeLay's Bible-toting state of Texas has a murder rate triple that of Massachusetts, which is "ungodly" enough to have elected two openly gay members of Congress. New York, the very symbol of godless depravity, is perfectly average when it comes to extralegal slaughter. In Washington state, where Sunday morning slugabeds are more common than anywhere else in America, murder is 38 percent less common.
House Republicans have also failed to notice that the school shootings have not occurred in hotbeds of secular humanism -- say, Berkeley, Calif.; Cambridge, Mass; or New York City -- but in towns that Norman Rockwell and James Dobson would be proud to call home. Pearl, Miss.; West Paducah, Ky.; Jonesboro, Ark.; Edinboro, Pa.; and Springfield, Ore., are not exactly Madalyn Murray O'Hair country. Littleton was fertile ground for evangelical churches.
If there is any apparent correlation between the prevalence of Christian devotion and law-abiding conduct, it's the opposite of the one claimed by Republicans: Religion and violence seem to go hand in hand. That doesn't mean faith actually causes murder. But it does suggest that when Republicans contemplate the Ten Commandments, they should pay more attention to the ninth, which prohibits false witness.
by Steve Chapman
Chicago Tribune
<< << or the very poor (Jesse Jackson) >> >>
He WAS poor. As I recall, he was as an illigitimate child and was raised by a single mother.
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Donning flame suit.
Canada ethnically diverse, give me a break. I grew up in North Dakota & didn't see a black till I was 14. In & out of Canada a lot, didn't see any blacks or minorities up there either...
I live 40 miles from Ft Worth & work in an ER in south Dallas, I see 70 year old black men with crack induced heart attacks on a daily basis (we know for sure cuz we do drug screens on them as we're working up their heart attack, and most times they'll admit to being in the middle of a toke when their chest pain started).
Seriously how many 70 year old crack addicts are there in Canada?
Canada ethnically diverse, give me a break. I grew up in North Dakota & didn't see a black till I was 14. In & out of Canada a lot, didn't see any blacks or minorities up there either...
I live 40 miles from Ft Worth & work in an ER in south Dallas, I see 70 year old black men with crack induced heart attacks on a daily basis (we know for sure cuz we do drug screens on them as we're working up their heart attack, and most times they'll admit to being in the middle of a toke when their chest pain started).
Seriously how many 70 year old crack addicts are there in Canada?
<< Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that the South repeatedly has the highest murder rate. In 1999, it was the only region with a murder rate above the national rate. The South accounts for 80% of executions. >>
Ah, simplicity reigns supreme yet again. When you say "North" and "South", its your code for "Republicans" and "Democrats", except things aren't that simple. There are Democratic bastions in the "South" and Republican bastions in the "North". Let's see what impact this has:
<< The Bible Belt has more than its share of both praying and killing. Louisiana has the highest churchgoing rate in the country, but its murder rate is more than twice the national average. >>
Ever heard of New Orleans? Louisiana's "state" murder rate is pulled higher by the exceptionally high murder rate in New Orleans...a text book leftwing Democratic stronghold. Take out the contribution of New Orleans to Louisiana's murder rate...and it falls to a level that is comparable if not lower than the national average.
In fact, the same is true for almost all of the southern states with high murder rates (with the exception of Texas, which, like Southern California, can blame its crime problems squarely on immigration pressures the North doesn't have to deal with), there is one or two big city liberal Democrat bastions that is skewing their crime statistics higher almost without fail. The demographics in these cities are virtual polar opposites of the religious Bible Belt demographics you are attempting to disparage (which always has very low violent crime rates). Remove the contribution made to the state crime statistics by these exceptionally high-crime liberal big city Democrat bastions, guess what happens?
Yet, the same cannot be said for Republican bastions in the North, they are always low crime and actually help pull-down the state's crime statistics. Gotcha. lol!
<< Donning flame suit.
Canada ethnically diverse, give me a break. I grew up in North Dakota & didn't see a black till I was 14. In & out of Canada a lot, didn't see any blacks or minorities up there either...
I live 40 miles from Ft Worth & work in an ER in south Dallas, I see 70 year old black men with crack induced heart attacks on a daily basis (we know for sure cuz we do drug screens on them as we're working up their heart attack, and most times they'll admit to being in the middle of a toke when their chest pain started).
Seriously how many 70 year old crack addicts are there in Canada? >>
Canada IS ethnically diverse, inside the cities. It's much less diverse in the suburbs and not diverse at all in rural areas. Also, we're not a melting pot but a quilt. People seem to retain their own culture here and there's much less hate for whatever reason.. many of you are posting that a large percentage of the homicides are due to minority groups. It doesn't seem that way over here, where whites and blacks and mexicans and chinese often live next door.
2000 elections....
Average MURDER rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush; 0.1
Average MURDER rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore; 13.2
those crazy violent republicans
Average MURDER rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush; 0.1
Average MURDER rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore; 13.2
those crazy violent republicans
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