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what made you stop texting and driving?

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Ichinisan said:
I call BS. My friend was recently hit while walking along the side of the road in plain view. The driver was a young man. Even with nothing else to go by, my intuition tells me the driver was almost certainly texting.
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Because people walking on the side of roads in plain view were never hit by young male drivers until the invention of the Blackberry?

MotionMan
 
CZroe said:
A statement like this STRONGLY implies that you are attempting to justify behaviors you are guilty of. I have NEVER knowingly driven under the influence of anything but lack of sleep and I passionately hate anyone who considers is so flippantly as you do because they are the ones likely to do such a horrible thing.
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I do, although I really need another hand or two. It's so hard to type and look at my phone with one hand, hold the 40oz in the other, and pop shot road signs all while doing 90 down the interstate while toking my bud. Then, having to change songs on the mp3 player and tell my GPS where I'm trying to go while plucking my eyebrows in the mirror and eating my double quarterpounder with cheese and yelling at the kids fighting in the backseat telling them if they don't shut up I'll drive this car right into someone walking on the curb. 🙄

Now. Should kids be banned from being in cars? They distract me.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
I do, although I really need another hand or two. It's so hard to type and look at my phone with one hand, hold the 40oz in the other, and pop shot road signs all while doing 90 down the interstate while toking my bud. Then, having to change songs on the mp3 player and tell my GPS where I'm trying to go while plucking my eyebrows in the mirror and eating my double quarterpounder with cheese and yelling at the kids fighting in the backseat telling them if they don't shut up I'll drive this car right into someone walking on the curb. 🙄

Now. Should kids be banned from being in cars? They distract me.
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Simple: Do you text and drive? If so, get off the fucking highway.
 
Engineer said:
Simple: Do you text and drive? If so, get off the fucking highway.
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Don't sidestep the question. Simple: while drinking inhibits your abilities (due to chemicals), phone usage and everything else is something used by a person.

PS I hate blind crusaders. I'm just looking at the whole picture. No one has given any "good" reason it is any more dangerous than the other 10-15 distractions I've pointed out in my posts. I am in no way saying it's good, but get off your high horse. If you had some tragedy that was in some way related to this, I'm sorry, but it still is the user, not the item. Do I agree cell phones are dangerous while driving? Yes, but I blame the user, not the item. There are just too many idiots out there.

It is the equivalent to being anti gun because someone you know was shot.
 
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ImpulsE69 said:
Don't sidestep the question. Simple: while drinking inhibits your abilities (due to chemicals), phone usage and everything else is something used by a person.

PS I hate blind crusaders. I'm just looking at the whole picture. No one has given any "good" reason it is any more dangerous than the other 10-15 distractions I've pointed out in my posts. I am in no way saying it's good, but get off your high horse. If you had some tragedy that was in some way related to this, I'm sorry, but it still is the user, not the item. Do I agree cell phones are dangerous while driving? Yes, but I blame the user, not the item. There are just too many idiots out there.

It is the equivalent to being anti gun because someone you know was shot.
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It's not "blind." There's been study after study. Go on ignoring them if you want, but there is no good reason to allow texting while driving. There are PLENTY of reasons to allow calling and listening to the radio.

Stop presenting flawed logic with flawed comparisons and you'll start seeing right through the Swiss Cheese that is your argument.

Take your first paragraph. Scientific test have compared "your abilities" while texting to your abilities while driving drunk and they all seem to come to the same conclusion: You're an idiot. Your "abilities" are compromised significantly either way.
 
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ImpulsE69 said:
Don't sidestep the question. Simple: while drinking inhibits your abilities (due to chemicals), phone usage and everything else is something used by a person.

PS I hate blind crusaders. I'm just looking at the whole picture. No one has given any "good" reason it is any more dangerous than the other 10-15 distractions I've pointed out in my posts. I am in no way saying it's good, but get off your high horse. If you had some tragedy that was in some way related to this, I'm sorry, but it still is the user, not the item. Do I agree cell phones are dangerous while driving? Yes, but I blame the user, not the item. There are just too many idiots out there.

It is the equivalent to being anti gun because someone you know was shot.
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Simple: Text and drive? Get off the fucking highway.

Same goes for drinking/driving, period.

You're trying to justify why "YOU" should be able to text and drive. If I see you texting and driving, you will be reported, period. End of story and I'm not sorry if you don't like it.
 
P'd
Engineer said:
Simple: Text and drive? Get off the fucking highway.

Same goes for drinking/driving, period.

You're trying to justify why "YOU" should be able to text and drive. If I see you texting and driving, you will be reported, period. End of story and I'm not sorry if you don't like it.
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Agreed. In 2008, I reported someone watching a DVD player on his dash and driving all over the two lanes in my direction (couldn't pass) at about 2/3rds the limit.
 
CZroe said:
It's not "blind." There's been study after study. Go on ignoring them if you want, but there is no good reason to allow texting while driving. There are PLENTY of reasons to allow calling and listening to the radio.

Stop presenting flawed logic with flawed comparisons and you'll start seeing right through the Swiss Cheese that is your argument.

Take your first paragraph. Scientific test have compared "your abilities" while texting to your abilities while driving drunk and they all seem to come to the same conclusion: You're an idiot. Your "abilities" are compromised significantly either way.
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Why is it flawed logic? Because you don't agree? They are all the same premise. You are doing things in your car to distract you from driving. Studies can be skewed. Why aren't cell phones banned everywhere yet? Because adults use them. Why is texting banned? Because young people text more than adults and they aren't responsible enough drivers as is so over anxious parents lobbied for "studies" and eventually the law change.

There are 1000's of car accidents every year. There has been since cars were invented long before cell phones and texting. I'm pretty sure studies would also show people shouldn't drive.

I personally think cell phones should be banned nationwide while driving and being used in public places, but I'm not wishing death on those who use them. I try to keep my nose out of what other people do. If they fuck up, it's their problem, not mine, same with me.

I actually have some basic trust in humanity that they have some common sense, even though many prove not to. I'm not trying to justify anything. Sorry that I'm using calm reasoning and outside thinking to look at the whole picture rather than just say "TEXT = BAD". Obviously some people can't just have a conversation with differing opinions. Oh yea, it's the internet. I already said, I don't text and drive, but that's because of law and the mechanics of it, not because some person on the internet thinks it's bad.

It's the people who think they know best who stick their nose into it for the "greater good" that are the annoying ones. Common sense says, don't text while driving, it's been said tons here, but obviously people did and continue to do it.

**yawn** I won't comment anymore because you've officially bored me.
 
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CZroe said:
It's not "blind." There's been study after study. Go on ignoring them if you want, but there is no good reason to allow texting while driving. There are PLENTY of reasons to allow calling and listening to the radio.

Stop presenting flawed logic with flawed comparisons and you'll start seeing right through the Swiss Cheese that is your argument.

Take your first paragraph. Scientific test have compared "your abilities" while texting to your abilities while driving drunk and they all seem to come to the same conclusion: You're an idiot. Your "abilities" are compromised significantly either way.
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post up the studies; i'm interested. The ones i've read consist of a survey to retarded people that reads along the lines of "do you think its more dangerous to text and drive or drink alcohol while driving"

the crash statistics say otherwise.

2009 alcohol related driving fatalities(12,000):
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

2009 cell phone related driving fatalities (1,000):
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811379.pdf

your efforts would be better focused on throwing speeders in federal prison, arresting people with a BMI over 24, and permanently hospitalizing asthmatics.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
If they fuck up, it's their problem, not mine, same with me.
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and if you fuck up and kill someone else? Who's problem is that?

Again, if you text and drive, get off the fucking road, and if you're in an accident, here's hoping that you only injure/kill yourself and not the rest of us on the highway.

Stupid fucking morons who text and drive!

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jteef said:
post up the studies; i'm interested. The ones i've read consist of a survey to retarded people that reads along the lines of "do you think its more dangerous to text and drive or drink alcohol while driving"

the crash statistics say otherwise.

2009 alcohol related driving fatalities(12,000):
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

2009 cell phone related driving fatalities (1,000):
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811379.pdf

your efforts would be better focused on throwing speeders in federal prison, arresting people with a BMI over 24, and permanently hospitalizing asthmatics.
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When a kid drives into a ditch and dies, how does the coroner determine that he was looking at a text message? :colbert:
 
and they never know exactly...just that X minutes prior to the accident the driver had a few text exchanges. For all they know he could have been stopped in traffic at the time, at a light or pulled over.

Some of the local news is even assuming INCOMING texts may contribute.

I get incoming all the time. Most of the time I don't really look at any of them until I stop.
 
jteef said:
post up the studies; i'm interested. The ones i've read consist of a survey to retarded people that reads along the lines of "do you think its more dangerous to text and drive or drink alcohol while driving"

the crash statistics say otherwise.

2009 alcohol related driving fatalities(12,000):
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

2009 cell phone related driving fatalities (1,000):
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811379.pdf

your efforts would be better focused on throwing speeders in federal prison, arresting people with a BMI over 24, and permanently hospitalizing asthmatics.
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They are unavoidable unless you ignorantly refuse to read them. How about you do a simple Google search for "texting bad as drunk driving." You can even use the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button.

Previously, some of these same researchers found that drivers who talked on their phones (both handsfree and hand-held) were as distracted as those who drank enough screwdrivers to register a .08% blood-alcohol content. Still, some surveys have reported that teenage drivers don’t view text-driving and drunk-driving as equal dangers.
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This particular quote links to a broken PDF but I've read it before. Clearly, you have the mentality of these "teenagers" in the part I bolded. Time to grow up.
 
Testing and driving should carry criminal charges. Misdemeanor for the first (non-accident) offense, felony for any offense that causes an accident or for the second (and more) offenses.
Proof should be as simple as a police officer confiscating the phone for an inspection of the texts sent/received. NO warrant required. (not to read content, merely to check time/date)
 
BoomerD said:
Testing and driving should carry criminal charges. Misdemeanor for the first (non-accident) offense, felony for any offense that causes an accident or for the second (and more) offenses.
Proof should be as simple as a police officer confiscating the phone for an inspection of the texts sent/received. NO warrant required. (not to read content, merely to check time/date)
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how many characters are required for reassignment to the nearest gulag?
 
BoomerD said:
Testing and driving should carry criminal charges. Misdemeanor for the first (non-accident) offense, felony for any offense that causes an accident or for the second (and more) offenses.
Proof should be as simple as a police officer confiscating the phone for an inspection of the texts sent/received. NO warrant required. (not to read content, merely to check time/date)
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The Constitution begs to differ. 😛
 
I don't even text on the phone - I actually blocked incoming too. I refuse on principle to pay that much for IMing.

I text on Google Voice for free when it's necessary.

I do dial out while driving sometimes then put it on speaker. Dialing out requires that I hit the contacts button then scrolling to the name and hitting one more button. No it's not really that much safer, but it's definitely less time-in-danger than typing shit out on a small keypad while driving a near 2-ton vehicle.
 
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CZroe said:
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Agreed. In 2008, I reported someone watching a DVD player on his dash and driving all over the two lanes in my direction (couldn't pass) at about 2/3rds the limit.
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This doesn't just need criminal charges. This needs castration. Someone that retarded should not be allowed to reproduced.


Testing and driving should carry criminal charges.
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Trying to stop the specific cause of action instead of stop the action is why things like drug policies are such a huge failure. Instead of ticketing the person for texting, ticket the way they are driving. If they run a stop sign, they get a ticket for running a stop sign. If they almost hit a pedestrian, they get a ticket for not yielding to a pedestrian (those are ~$600 tickets where I live).

And yes I really did suggest drunk driving be legal in the above paragraph.
 
BoomerD said:
Testing and driving should carry criminal charges. Misdemeanor for the first (non-accident) offense, felony for any offense that causes an accident or for the second (and more) offenses.
Proof should be as simple as a police officer confiscating the phone for an inspection of the texts sent/received. NO warrant required. (not to read content, merely to check time/date)
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You live in the wrong country buddy.

Also being not so important in the world you fail to realize on easily this could be abused for unwarranted searches and getting private information.

Am I supposed to give them my password too that not only lets them see my texts, but email as well, my calendar, and my recent calls/contacts?

How long does this discovery process take?

I hear Cuba is opening it's borders to US defectors. I can help set up a fund for the ticket, I am sure many here will help.
 
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