Yeah, without my degree, I wouldn't be able to get a job here and make this amount of cash.
it's not much, but I paid off my college loan (about 30k) in 2 years.
it's not much, but I paid off my college loan (about 30k) in 2 years.
I don't think Biology or Chem is a useless degree. I don't think English or linguistics is either.
a friend of mine just got his bacholer in psychology and is working in a group home.
coiencidentally my brother has better, higher up position in a group home and he hasn't even finished college (i believe he is going for social work?).
(oh btw, here college = diploma and university = degree)
coiencidentally my brother has better, higher up position in a group home and he hasn't even finished college (i believe he is going for social work?).
(oh btw, here college = diploma and university = degree)
Thanks for taking the words right out of my mouth. I know MANY psyche grads and they are doing everything from human resources to customer service administration (sounds sh!tty but she's in charge of CS for 14 stores across NY and PA). Another is a family counselor, and my grandmother was a school counselor for 38 years before she retired.
Its all about the money huh? Well, you better get ready to stop screwing around and working your ass off if you plan on making the big bucks. If I was you I'd start playing the lotto...
Ugh. Go to college and study what you are interested in. You're there to learn, and like others have said, a lot of people don't have careers that are related to their college majors.
And go to your college's career center or whatever you have there. According to most people on this board, any academic program without a clearly-defined career path is a waste of time, and if you aren't studying something related to mathematics, science, or business you're going to be flipping burgers. A bachelor's degree is valuable no matter what you majored in.
And go to your college's career center or whatever you have there. According to most people on this board, any academic program without a clearly-defined career path is a waste of time, and if you aren't studying something related to mathematics, science, or business you're going to be flipping burgers. A bachelor's degree is valuable no matter what you majored in.
i currently hold a BA in Business Admin and was gonna go for a masters in clinical psych. now all this reading has made me rethink this. i really like psych its an interesting field and applying it career wise would be great. i wanted to either teach on the university level or do research. i still have my BA in business if all else fails. plus im eligible to attain my MBA. any suggestions?
interacting with people and working with people is a human trait, you dont need a degree to have those qualities, as long as you have a degree in anything you can do some of those careers. I am not saying the psyc degree is useless (i did if you scroll up, facetiously) but its the person thats attached to the degree is what matters
on a side note i am EE, with a Psyc minor
Psychology was always interesting to me, and I majored in it for about two years before I realized i wouldn't want to continue my education that far. There is very little you can do with a Bachelor's in Psychology. It might be beneficial to help you get a job doing social work, for everything else it would just be a diploma.
If you can stick it out and get your Masters, then you could be a "counselor" for many places such as schools and several Universities. The money still wouldn't be great, but you would at least be in the Psychology field doing what you say you would like to do.
To really make any money (and actually quite a bit with a lucky break) you need to get your Ph.D or Psy.D. The programs will be difficult and long (Psy.D I believe is the shorter of the two) but you would be a licensed Psychologist when it was complete. I didn't have the desire to be in school another 5 years beyond a Bachelor's degree, so I dropped it.
If you really want to make big cash, go to med school and become a licensed Psychiatrist. You will need to keep your grades incredibly high, and take the 36 hours (don't quote me on the 36) required for consideration. I always thought the Psychiatrist had the easier job. Look up the symptoms in the DSM and prescribe the common medication. A Psychologist has to treat the patient through tedious lessons, or recommend a Psychiatrist.
When I was in school, Insurance companies would pay $100 per hour for a Psychologist, and $400 per hour for a Psychiatrist.
If you can stick it out and get your Masters, then you could be a "counselor" for many places such as schools and several Universities. The money still wouldn't be great, but you would at least be in the Psychology field doing what you say you would like to do.
To really make any money (and actually quite a bit with a lucky break) you need to get your Ph.D or Psy.D. The programs will be difficult and long (Psy.D I believe is the shorter of the two) but you would be a licensed Psychologist when it was complete. I didn't have the desire to be in school another 5 years beyond a Bachelor's degree, so I dropped it.
If you really want to make big cash, go to med school and become a licensed Psychiatrist. You will need to keep your grades incredibly high, and take the 36 hours (don't quote me on the 36) required for consideration. I always thought the Psychiatrist had the easier job. Look up the symptoms in the DSM and prescribe the common medication. A Psychologist has to treat the patient through tedious lessons, or recommend a Psychiatrist.
When I was in school, Insurance companies would pay $100 per hour for a Psychologist, and $400 per hour for a Psychiatrist.
Do what you want. Don't listen to the ignorant fvcks on this board with their one-track minds.
Seriously, you're on a COMPUTER GEEK board. Do you think the majority of the people here, with their linear, narrow-minded education are going to stop, take a step back, and honestly try to see how psychology and other liberal arts fit in to the grand scheme of things? Try other general content boards if you want a broader opinion. Most people here are going to just stick to their guns and say "psychology = suck" when they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to back their opinions up with.
Our country and most of the world revolves around the liberal arts, not computers. Society is founded on the basis of understanding one another, not on how well you understand machines. Long after we exhaust our need for people to write our programs, we'll still need people to understand PEOPLE, society, history, language, etc.
Think about what would happen if everyone majored in a tech-centric subject. Have you seen how fscking antisocial or socially crippled the majority of these people are? If we have everyone focusing on how to communicate with computers, you leave no one left to communicate with other humans.
Here is my challenge to you tech majors
For those of you absolutely convinced that anything besides IT is a waste of time, find me DATA, since you're so good at it. Find me data showing that the average income of people with tech degrees is higher, that their unemployment rate is lower, and that, most importantly, they are HAPPIER in their jobs.
Sure, off the bat you might make more, but if down the road you get shafted due to corporate downsizing, wage cut due to more automated processes, or if you HATE YOUR JOB, that's not doing you any good, is it?
<end rant>
Oh, and speaking of useless degrees, my dad has a PhD in Religion. Useless, huh? Would you still think it's useless if I told you he made about $850,000 a year in the 80's and about $300,000 in 2002?
Another of my friends has a Communications major. He's happy in his job and making $60,000 a year. Another one - English major, making $90,000 a year.
My friends with compSci degrees - $30-40K a year, hate their jobs, or are not working.
Eat that.
I must admit that I view a BS in Psychology to be almost useless. However, I have to look at cases like my stepmother, who after working at various HR positions and account management positions for top IP and IT firms for twenty years, went back to GMU and got her BS in Psych, then almost completed her Masters in Psychology (she was short an internship, which she was unable to obtain because my father moved right before she started). She is quite possibly one of the most successful people I know, and one of the wealthiest, but she has done it all with no degree (for twenty years) and with a BS in Psych (for ten years).
Damn amnesiac, you're going nuts. 
I think the some of the majors listed are not necessarily useless, but harder for the majority of people to gain success in. There are always going to be successful people with whatever degree in x subject. Having a degree in a certain subject or graduating from x school doesn't guarantee success. It certainly helps.
Frankly it just depends on the person, what connections they can make or be exposed to and how hard they are willing to work for success.
I'm sure all the people that have been listed as successful in non-technical degrees have worked hard to get where they are. Given the way the economy is, everyone needs to work harder to get somewhere. You can't slip through the cracks anymore.
I think the some of the majors listed are not necessarily useless, but harder for the majority of people to gain success in. There are always going to be successful people with whatever degree in x subject. Having a degree in a certain subject or graduating from x school doesn't guarantee success. It certainly helps.
Frankly it just depends on the person, what connections they can make or be exposed to and how hard they are willing to work for success.
I'm sure all the people that have been listed as successful in non-technical degrees have worked hard to get where they are. Given the way the economy is, everyone needs to work harder to get somewhere. You can't slip through the cracks anymore.
Siddhartha
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Its hard to say how useful it is. A science or engineering degree might get you in the door or at least an interview while other degrees might make it harder to land tech jobs. I just see the degree as something you must get, doesn't matter in what, to show that you can study, put 4-5(or more) years aside, to work towards an ultimate goal.
Then of course you got your skill and experiences.
Then of course you got your skill and experiences.
FlashG
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Is a Psychology degree any good?
Try supervisory management in any large corporation. They love psych majors.
Don?t cut yourself short. Just because you?ve got a medically oriented degree doesn?t mean that it can?t be of value in other walks of life. I have had some very good experiences with managers with your degree. No matter what you do you still have to deal with people and understanding how people think is a tremendous resource.
Try supervisory management in any large corporation. They love psych majors.
Don?t cut yourself short. Just because you?ve got a medically oriented degree doesn?t mean that it can?t be of value in other walks of life. I have had some very good experiences with managers with your degree. No matter what you do you still have to deal with people and understanding how people think is a tremendous resource.
take some managment classes or something and join the ranks of the dreaded HR department and come up with all kinds of stupid questions to ask interviewees for your company..
either that or develop a cult following and go on a talk show and become the next Dr. Phil or that robbins guy.
either that or develop a cult following and go on a talk show and become the next Dr. Phil or that robbins guy.
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