What kind of cat is this?

[MercenaryForHire]

Aww Kittah Aww

As others have said, domestic shorthair tabby. Some good advice in here re: deworming and taking it to a vet ... Kittah looks like s/he's at least a couple months old and can easily go to dry food.

If you do plan on keeping the cat, don't feed it anything you can buy in a grocery store. All foods are not created equal, and anything you can get in a "people food store" means that no pet store is willing to stock it.

To turn a stray into a pet ... :heart: it. Sounds like Kittah already :heart:s you, since s/he likes sneaking into your house.

- M4H

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Cute kitty. I found a stray Russian Blue at work once, couldn't keep him where I was staying though. Fortunately a co-worker of mine was able to give him a home.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Aww Kittah Aww

As others have said, domestic shorthair tabby. Some good advice in here re: deworming and taking it to a vet ... Kittah looks like s/he's at least a couple months old and can easily go to dry food.

If you do plan on keeping the cat, don't feed it anything you can buy in a grocery store. All foods are not created equal, and anything you can get in a "people food store" means that no pet store is willing to stock it.

To turn a stray into a pet ... :heart: it. Sounds like Kittah already :heart:s you, since s/he likes sneaking into your house.

- M4H

I agree with the bit about food.

This is especially true with fixed male cats.

Science Diet is an excellent food, and not really all that expensive. You can find it at pet stores. If your cat will be an indoor only cat (I STRONGLY suggest keeping it indoors all the time) get the hairball control formula.

Also, keep it on hard food and avoid soft canned food. Not only does it stink, but it makes a mess of the cat's teeth.

 

[torpid]

Do not buy a cheap over the counter flea medicine such as hartz. Especially hartz. Get the stuff from the vet.

All cats, or at least most, are lactose intolerant in adulthood.

You can feed it some canned tuna but don't use it as the sole source of food. It does not have proper nutrients for a cat and likely contains more mercury than a cat should have regularly. Cooked poultry is tasty for cats but does not contain enough taurine.

The most important thing is to give it lots of water. Cats can survive a while without food, so table scraps are ok - no onions or spices though!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Aww Kittah Aww

As others have said, domestic shorthair tabby. Some good advice in here re: deworming and taking it to a vet ... Kittah looks like s/he's at least a couple months old and can easily go to dry food.

If you do plan on keeping the cat, don't feed it anything you can buy in a grocery store. All foods are not created equal, and anything you can get in a "people food store" means that no pet store is willing to stock it.

To turn a stray into a pet ... :heart: it. Sounds like Kittah already :heart:s you, since s/he likes sneaking into your house.

- M4H

I agree with the bit about food.

This is especially true with fixed male cats.

Science Diet is an excellent food, and not really all that expensive. You can find it at pet stores. If your cat will be an indoor only cat (I STRONGLY suggest keeping it indoors all the time) get the hairball control formula.

Also, keep it on hard food and avoid soft canned food. Not only does it stink, but it makes a mess of the cat's teeth.

I won't go into the details about why it's especially true for a fixed male. Both my cats are on Science Diet - I actually had to put the larger one on T/D because he wasn't chewing anything smaller.

I concur on the "keep indoors" part. You don't want Kittah to fall victim to RTD (Rubber Tire Disease.)

Oh, and obviously, spay or neuter the cat.

- M4H

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Amused
Science Diet is an excellent food, and not really all that expensive. You can find it at pet stores. If your cat will be an indoor only cat (I STRONGLY suggest keeping it indoors all the time) get the hairball control formula.

Also, keep it on hard food and avoid soft canned food. Not only does it stink, but it makes a mess of the cat's teeth.

Disagree strongly with both points (not the indoor thing, that I agree with). Cat teeth do not benefit from any dry food except possibly dental diets. Cats only break up a fraction of the food and do not use all their teeth in doing so. Even then they do not help substantially and you still need to do other dental things. Dry food contributes to late life illnesses as well as various kidney / bladder problems. Wet food contains higher protein, which is good for cats, and helps cats get a proper amount of water. It also is less prone to food addiction. And usually contains higher quality ingredients.

Science Diet is junk food that is well-marketted. It contains a lot of crap, usually corn filler as the first ingredient and by products as a primary meat. Cats don't need corn. If you are going to feed dry food use Evo or a similar grain-free, high protein, natural food.

 

[dullard]

The story of my stray cat, with pic.

There are basically two types of stray cats. (1) A cat that is a stay because people can't stand it's behaviors. The cat could be too wild, could distroy everything in sight, could bite, etc. (2) A nice cat that has lost its way and will very much appreciate human affection and will reward you back. Before taking in a stray permanently, I'd try to determine which it is. By your description, it seems like #2.

The cat has the tabby colorings. But it is probably a mixed breed mut.

Don't give the cat milk. Milk can be deadly poison to virtually all adult animals. There are two exceptions: (1) humans can tollerate it but it gives many humans diarrhea and gas, (2) cats can have it but they usually will throw up afterwards. Give up the idea of feeding adults any form of milk.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Originally posted by: ballmode
Should be a dead cat

Looking at your pointless/unneeded post, your sig is obvious.....

Trying to become a lifer! :disgust:

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: torpid
higher protein

high protein

"oh hi, i upgraded your renal failure"

- M4H

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: torpid
higher protein

high protein

"oh hi, i upgraded your renal failure"

- M4H

Most likely a myth.

http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=003

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Amused
Science Diet is an excellent food, and not really all that expensive. You can find it at pet stores. If your cat will be an indoor only cat (I STRONGLY suggest keeping it indoors all the time) get the hairball control formula.

Also, keep it on hard food and avoid soft canned food. Not only does it stink, but it makes a mess of the cat's teeth.

Disagree strongly with both points (not the indoor thing, that I agree with). Cat teeth do not benefit from any dry food except possibly dental diets. Cats only break up a fraction of the food and do not use all their teeth in doing so. Even then they do not help substantially and you still need to do other dental things. Dry food contributes to late life illnesses as well as various kidney / bladder problems. Wet food contains higher protein, which is good for cats, and helps cats get a proper amount of water. It also is less prone to food addiction. And usually contains higher quality ingredients.

Science Diet is junk food that is well-marketted. It contains a lot of crap, usually corn filler as the first ingredient and by products as a primary meat. Cats don't need corn. If you are going to feed dry food use Evo or a similar grain-free, high protein, natural food.

Everything you have said goes 100% against all my experiences with cats, and what my vets have told me.

Science diet is the ONLY food to not cause urinary tract blockage in my fixed male cats. And I've tried many foods with my cats over the years.

Not a single vet has told me hard food is bad for a cat, or that hard food is not better for their teeth. In fact. all have recommended it and I have noticed a marked improvement in dental health by maintaining a hard food only diet.

BTW, my cats throughout my life have lived for an average of 17 years. So I must be doing something right.

So if you don't mind, I'm going to chalk up your post as 100% pure bullsh!t.

 

[mobobuff]

Wow, cats are a hot topic on ATOT. I should get a cat .

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Amused
Science Diet is an excellent food, and not really all that expensive. You can find it at pet stores. If your cat will be an indoor only cat (I STRONGLY suggest keeping it indoors all the time) get the hairball control formula.

Also, keep it on hard food and avoid soft canned food. Not only does it stink, but it makes a mess of the cat's teeth.

Disagree strongly with both points (not the indoor thing, that I agree with). Cat teeth do not benefit from any dry food except possibly dental diets. Cats only break up a fraction of the food and do not use all their teeth in doing so. Even then they do not help substantially and you still need to do other dental things. Dry food contributes to late life illnesses as well as various kidney / bladder problems. Wet food contains higher protein, which is good for cats, and helps cats get a proper amount of water. It also is less prone to food addiction. And usually contains higher quality ingredients.

Science Diet is junk food that is well-marketted. It contains a lot of crap, usually corn filler as the first ingredient and by products as a primary meat. Cats don't need corn. If you are going to feed dry food use Evo or a similar grain-free, high protein, natural food.

I'll go with Amused here. Cats tend to do much better on dry food. Plus, you don't want the cost, smell, effort, and other problems with wet cat food.

Remember, it is just a cat, thus the goal here is to get the cheapest cat food that the cat won't throw up and will give the cat qualities you desire. For example, the cheap crap in a supermarket will give your cat fur that feels almost like steel wool. It'll be rough and dry. Science Diet (or even better, Iams) costs just pennies more than the cheap crap and will give your cat a soft healthy fur. Beyond that, you are just wasting your money.

That is, unless your cat has a medical problem and needs specialty vet food. And then, go with what your vet says and not some ATOT poster.

Also, I agree with the other stuff Amused posted. Keep it indoors. And if hairballs are a problem (varies with the cat), go for the hairball food and/or suplements.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: torpid
Disagree strongly with both points (not the indoor thing, that I agree with). Cat teeth do not benefit from any dry food except possibly dental diets. Cats only break up a fraction of the food and do not use all their teeth in doing so. Even then they do not help substantially and you still need to do other dental things. Dry food contributes to late life illnesses as well as various kidney / bladder problems. Wet food contains higher protein, which is good for cats, and helps cats get a proper amount of water. It also is less prone to food addiction. And usually contains higher quality ingredients.

Science Diet is junk food that is well-marketted. It contains a lot of crap, usually corn filler as the first ingredient and by products as a primary meat. Cats don't need corn. If you are going to feed dry food use Evo or a similar grain-free, high protein, natural food.

Everything you have said goes 100% against all my experiences with cats, and what my vets have told me.

Science diet is the ONLY food to not cause urinary tract blockage in my fixed male cats. And I've tried many foods with my cats over the years.

Not a single vet has told me hard food is bad for a cat, or that hard food is not better for their teeth. In fact. all have recommended it and I have noticed a marked improvement in dental health by maintaining a hard food only diet.

So if you don't mind, I'm going to chalk up your post as 100% pure bullsh!t.

Suit yourself. All it takes is a simple google or talking to a vet who doesn't whore himself out to hill's scient diet to see what I wrote is true.

http://cats.about.com/od/cannedfood/Can..._Next_Best_Choice_after_a_Raw_Diet.htm
http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm
http://www.littlebigcat.com/?action=lib...act=show&item=doesdryfoodcleantheteeth

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: torpid
Disagree strongly with both points (not the indoor thing, that I agree with). Cat teeth do not benefit from any dry food except possibly dental diets. Cats only break up a fraction of the food and do not use all their teeth in doing so. Even then they do not help substantially and you still need to do other dental things. Dry food contributes to late life illnesses as well as various kidney / bladder problems. Wet food contains higher protein, which is good for cats, and helps cats get a proper amount of water. It also is less prone to food addiction. And usually contains higher quality ingredients.

Science Diet is junk food that is well-marketted. It contains a lot of crap, usually corn filler as the first ingredient and by products as a primary meat. Cats don't need corn. If you are going to feed dry food use Evo or a similar grain-free, high protein, natural food.

Everything you have said goes 100% against all my experiences with cats, and what my vets have told me.

Science diet is the ONLY food to not cause urinary tract blockage in my fixed male cats. And I've tried many foods with my cats over the years.

Not a single vet has told me hard food is bad for a cat, or that hard food is not better for their teeth. In fact. all have recommended it and I have noticed a marked improvement in dental health by maintaining a hard food only diet.

So if you don't mind, I'm going to chalk up your post as 100% pure bullsh!t.

Suit yourself. All it takes is a simple google or talking to a vet who doesn't whore himself out to hill's scient diet to see what I wrote is true.

http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=003
http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm
http://www.littlebigcat.com/?action=lib...act=show&item=doesdryfoodcleantheteeth

Considering the fact that the site you have linked to three times now pushes "Holistic remedies for pets" makes me more than confidant I am making the right choice.

And to claim vets peddle SD then point me to a site that peddles Holistic nonsense is hilarious at best. You are following the Mercola of vet advice. What a fscking joke.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: tRiPpiNxSaV
I always thought cat would drink milk, but it didn't even touch it.
I don't have pets so the only thing I could feed it was chicken and pork from my dinner.
I guess cats also don't like Bologna .

IIRC, adult cats are lactose intolerant. If it drinks the milk it will be sh!tting all over your house. You can get cat milk, or something like that if you want to feed it milk.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: dullard
I'll go with Amused here. Cats tend to do much better on dry food. Plus, you don't want the cost, smell, effort, and other problems with wet cat food.

My cats do much worse on dry food. They gain weight and have less energy. Their coats aren't as shiny and they shed more dander. What smell? Try not feeding junk canned food maybe. The smell is the same either way for my cats.

Remember, it is just a cat, thus the goal here is to get the cheapest cat food that the cat won't throw up and will give the cat qualities you desire. For example, the cheap crap in a supermarket will give your cat fur that feels almost like steel wool. It'll be rough and dry. Science Diet (or even better, Iams) costs just pennies more than the cheap crap and will give your cat a soft healthy fur. Beyond that, you are just wasting your money.

It's not wasting money since you won't have to spend thousands of dollars at the vet when your cat gets CRF and Diabetes later on.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Amused
Considering the fact that the site you have linked to three times now pushes "Holistic remedies for pets" makes me more than confidant I am making the right choice.

And to claim vets peddle SD then point me to a site that peddles Holistic nonsense is hilarious at best.

First link was an error. Copy/paste didn't work. It's fixed. Go ahead and google it yourself. You won't find a single reputable site that recommend AGAINST canned food for any reason except slight dental benefit, and you will find MANY that recommend against dry food for much more serious health reasons.

Like I said, go ahead and live in ignorance if you want. My vet recommends wet food, and works for banfield, a huge national vet chain that has little stake in selling wet food since their prescription foods are all hill's or royal canin. In fact when I asked him which he recommended he told me of two studies which demonstrated minimal or no dental benefit to most dry foods, and told me to try brushing their teeth if I wanted to help their teeth.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: torpid
My cats do much worse on dry food. They gain weight and have less energy.

You are over-feeding your cats.

Their coats aren't as shiny and they shed more dander.

You used the cheap crap dry food then. Try a different brand. Oh that's right, you are against it and you aren't trying the different brands.

What smell?

The smell of (a) the awful wet cat food and (b) the litter box after they eat that wet crap.

It's not wasting money since you won't have to spend thousands of dollars at the vet when your cat gets CRF and Diabetes later on.

That goes back to your over-feeding. Stop giving them so much food that they are overweight and develop diabetes. Plus, there is no reason to spend thousands on a vet. A pet is a wonderful loving creature, but it is just an animal. Put a cap on your vet bills. They aren't worth thousands.

 

[Nightfall]

Cats are probably the easiest animals to take care of. Just give them a litter box, a bowl of food, and water and they entertain themselves. As for what you should do, thats a good question. The first thing you have to ask yourself is if you intend to keep it or not. If you live in a busy neighborhood with a lot of roads, you could keep it and just make it an indoor cat. That will require you to deworm it. If you get it declawed and spayed/neutered, that will cost you a little more but it is worth it. All total, for deworming, declawing, and spaying/neutering you are looking at about $250 or so. Maybe less. Just take it to a vet to find out. If you are short on cash, call the humane society and see if they have any low cost spaying/neutering places they can recommend if you still want to keep the cat.

If you have no interest in the cat, then just take it to the humane society. Just realize the cat will probably die.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Amused
Considering the fact that the site you have linked to three times now pushes "Holistic remedies for pets" makes me more than confidant I am making the right choice.

And to claim vets peddle SD then point me to a site that peddles Holistic nonsense is hilarious at best.

First link was an error. Copy/paste didn't work.

Like I said, go ahead and live in ignorance if you want. My vet recommends wet food, and works for banfield, a huge national vet chain that has little stake in selling wet food since their prescription foods are all hill's or royal canin. In fact when I asked him which he recommended he told me of two studies which demonstrated minimal or no dental benefit to most dry foods, and told me to try brushing their teeth if I wanted to help their teeth.

An average of 17 years lifespan and perfectly healthy is not ignorance. That's success.

My current kitty (Buddy) is happy, healthy and playful at 12 years of age now.

Keep following the advice of your Mercola for cats flakes if that makes you happy. I choose actual science.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Amused
Science Diet is an excellent food, and not really all that expensive. You can find it at pet stores. If your cat will be an indoor only cat (I STRONGLY suggest keeping it indoors all the time) get the hairball control formula.

Also, keep it on hard food and avoid soft canned food. Not only does it stink, but it makes a mess of the cat's teeth.

Disagree strongly with both points (not the indoor thing, that I agree with). Cat teeth do not benefit from any dry food except possibly dental diets. Cats only break up a fraction of the food and do not use all their teeth in doing so. Even then they do not help substantially and you still need to do other dental things. Dry food contributes to late life illnesses as well as various kidney / bladder problems. Wet food contains higher protein, which is good for cats, and helps cats get a proper amount of water. It also is less prone to food addiction. And usually contains higher quality ingredients.

Science Diet is junk food that is well-marketted. It contains a lot of crap, usually corn filler as the first ingredient and by products as a primary meat. Cats don't need corn. If you are going to feed dry food use Evo or a similar grain-free, high protein, natural food.

I'll go with Amused here. Cats tend to do much better on dry food. Plus, you don't want the cost, smell, effort, and other problems with wet cat food.

Remember, it is just a cat, thus the goal here is to get the cheapest cat food that the cat won't throw up and will give the cat qualities you desire. For example, the cheap crap in a supermarket will give your cat fur that feels almost like steel wool. It'll be rough and dry. Science Diet (or even better, Iams) costs just pennies more than the cheap crap and will give your cat a soft healthy fur. Beyond that, you are just wasting your money.

That is, unless your cat has a medical problem and needs specialty vet food. And then, go with what your vet says and not some ATOT poster.

Also, I agree with the other stuff Amused posted. Keep it indoors. And if hairballs are a problem (varies with the cat), go for the hairball food and/or suplements.

Bah, both of our cats are on a Purina (I think it's Purina), Indoor cat forumla (hairball & UT health) and the vet has never said anything bad about our care for the cats. Both have very soft fur, are in good health, and pretty active for their ages. There's nothing wrong with Science Diet but we haven't had a problem with grocery store Purina (and the occasional package of Deli Cat).

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: dullard
You are over-feeding your cats.

No, I fed controlled portions less than the bag recommended.

You used the cheap crap dry food then. Try a different brand. Oh that's right, you are against it and you aren't trying the different brands.

I've tried numerous brands. The poor coat was from hill's science diet, actually. I've tried dozens of brands and Evo is the one that had the best ingredients and also happens to be what my cats like the most. They've lost weight and had more energy because of it. And a better coat.

The smell of (a) the awful wet cat food and (b) the litter box after they eat that wet crap.

There is no such smell. Stop feeding hill's to your cats.

That goes back to your over-feeding. Stop giving them so much food that they are overweight and develop diabetes. Plus, there is no reason to spend thousands on a vet. A pet is a wonderful loving creature, but it is just an animal. Put a cap on your vet bills. They aren't worth thousands.

My cats don't have diabetes, but many cats that are fed dry food do. That's nice that you would just kill your cat if it got an expensive illness. Most of us aren't heartless bastards and would end up spending the money to take care of the cat.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Amused
An average of 17 years lifespan and perfectly healthy is not ignorance. That's success.

My current kitty (Buddy) is happy, healthy and playful at 12 years of age now.

Keep following the advice of your Mercola for cats flakes if that makes you happy. I choose actual science.

What science? Provide me a link. All you've said so far is that your vet told you to feed dry for the teeth. That's not science, it's ignorance and blind faith. Science involves research. You have done no such research and have offered ZERO scientific reasoning.

 

[uberman]

Originally posted by: oynaz
Avoid cow's milk for cats, at least in large quantities. They cannot digest it properly.

Good idea! I think Ben Stiller milked cats in the movie, "Meet the Fockers." Find a pregnant cat and milk it for the little guy.