What it's really like to be an ugly woman.

[Skunk-Works]

or if the girls are too ugly.

I think if you had girls the drama would out do the ugly crap.

 

[shortylickens]

like it or not, there is a biological imperative in regards to attractiveness. people prefer mates they find attractive. what society deems attractive does not always equate with our personal tastes.

Fot example, I much prefer Kate Miccuci to Megan Fox.

 

[Ancalagon44]

I don't know... an ugly guy can get some serious game with wealth, personality, popularity, and charm/humor.

Girls got it rough... I wouldn't say the same applies for a ugly woman.

As long as he is tall enough, he can compensate in some ways. A short ugly man has more trouble than an ugly woman.

A beautiful woman can be a complete bitch and she will still be hit on by loads of guys. A good looking man still needs game - looks alone are not enough for men. Women judge men on everything - their friends, their shoes, their clothes, their bodies, their job, their car, their credit card, their sense of humour, etc etc.

 

[FIVR]

So where is the "What it's like to be a poor man" article?

 

[Skunk-Works]

A good looking man still needs game - looks alone are not enough for men. Women judge men on everything - their friends, their shoes, their clothes, their bodies, their job, their car, their credit card, their sense of humour, etc etc.

I sometimes think this is true, but my mom for some damn reason picked my dad who can be a real asshole. Speaking of... why do woman date assholes? I'm like, FFS! you can have anyone you want and you picked a dick!

 

[shortylickens]

So where is the "What it's like to be a poor man" article?

Do we really needan article on that?

 

[Thebobo]

Words of wisdom.

 

[FIVR]

Do we really needan article on that?

Ugly women and poor men are in the same boat (at least IMO).

Every woman I meet seems to be obsessed with money > "What do you do?"; "What do you drive?"; "Can I see your house?"

While at the same time, most guys are obsessed with women's appearance.

There are exceptions (of course) but for some reason there seems to be a lot less sympathy for poor men than for ugly women. It is socially acceptable to openly criticize and judge men based on their financial status while it is taboo to tell a woman she is "ugly".


Also, can you imagine what it would be like to be an ugly, poor, short man? *shudder*

 

[shortylickens]

Ugly women and poor men are in the same boat (at least IMO).

Every woman I meet seems to be obsessed with money > "What do you do?"; "What do you drive?"; "Can I see your house?"

While at the same time, most guys are obsessed with women's appearance.

There are exceptions (of course) but for some reason there seems to be a lot less sympathy for poor men than for ugly women. It is socially acceptable to openly criticize and judge men based on their financial status while it is taboo to tell a woman she is "ugly".


Also, can you imagine what it would be like to be an ugly, poor, short man? *shudder*

 

[rh71]

luckily i have boys.. if i have girls, i would either worry if they are too pretty (then the boys would come knocking the door down). or if the girls are too ugly.

Boys here too but if girls, not worried about the girls being ugly thing. It's that we all know girls have to be extra careful with pretty much every damn thing.

 

[interchange]

People are just uncomfortable with things that are obvious but not kosher to talk candidly about. She could do better by saying "I know I'm ugly, but do you want to dance"? But that's just an observation of human behavior. I don't think it's the right way to be. To overcome it, it's not about teaching us that ugly people are just as good, it's about teaching us to confront social taboos, and that we can do more good than harm if our intentions are just.

 

[tynopik]

well, the woman looks better than the man, but i'm not sure what they're trying to get at otherwise

 

[Paladin3]

I wonder what the author's purpose in writing this article really was. It surely wasn't to educate any of us on how dance clubs work. No ugly woman is going to get free drink and guys falling all over her at a club, unless she's the last woman available. Clubs are for beautiful people to hook up with other beautiful people and anyone who doesn't understand that is in for disappointment. She didn't go to the club looking for an ugly guy. Or a poor guy. Or a short guy.

Nothing to see here other than a woman who doesn't want to accept the great battle of woman vs man as it is and always has been. Move along, folks.

 

[zinfamous]

Here's what popular talk show host Julie Chen from the Talk looked like before plastic surgery:

Then there are the more extreme cases:

The reason plastic surgery is so lucrative in SK is because now all of these ugly people keep having ugly kids, often to the confusion of the non-altered parent (if that exists), so now the new ugly kids need surgery.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Clubbing generally means going to a place for people to meet other people to bang. it provides little to no opportunity for one person to get to know the other beyond what he/she looks like. The whole event is based on physical attraction.

So - while I feel for the woman who wrote the letter - the reality is that her experience is NATURAL given the circumstances, and will (and should) never change. To say it will or should is to argue that people will/should act against their very nature. Shocker that a bunch of dudes in a club did not want to hook up with an ugly woman. Guess what? The opposite is true as well (i.e., women in a club won't hook up with an ugly dude). Whining about how your feelings are hurt and such accomplishes nothing. The solution is to put yourself in a position where someone can experience your attractive features (which may not be physical), so that they will be attracted to you.

Take it from me - the dorkiest, nerdiest son of a bitch around from the mid 90's to early 2000's. Whenever I hooked up with a chick, it was after I had the opportunity to demonstrate to them that I was smart, motivated, funny, and respectful of them. Characteristics which apparently make up for a lot of otherwise physically unattractive features I was sporting back then.

Anyway - these kinds of articles infuriate me. Wah wah wah. The world hates me. I'm ugly. Nobody wants me. Blech. All of that crap is fixable by the person doing the whining. ALL of it.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I wonder what the author's purpose in writing this article really was. It surely wasn't to educate any of us on how dance clubs work. No ugly woman is going to get free drink and guys falling all over her at a club, unless she's the last woman available. Clubs are for beautiful people to hook up with other beautiful people and anyone who doesn't understand that is in for disappointment. She didn't go to the club looking for an ugly guy. Or a poor guy. Or a short guy.

Nothing to see here other than a woman who doesn't want to accept the great battle of woman vs man as it is and always has been. Move along, folks.

That. Even an unattractive woman that has a good body (which she claims to have) and any sort of personality will have no trouble meeting guys. She's just not going to have any success in a superficial environment like a club. Of course guys shop by looks there, women do the same. Meet people in the real world where people can get to know each other and the results are a lot different. Her whining is like a cat complaining that it finished last in a dog show.

Two observations on her in particular:

1) WTF goes out without money? She just expects guys are going to buy her drinks? Bullshit.
2) She has friends and they have boyfriends and those guys have friends and any person has a pretty wide circle of acquaintances. She's probably met dozens or hundreds of eligible guys in a setting where substance counts and it doesn't sound like she's had much success there. So either the personality is also a problem or maybe she's a female version of the guys she's talking about, she wants a rich Brad Pitt and refuses to pay attention to unattractive guys.

 

[mindless1]

There's a flip side to that. If you don't care about your appearance, let yourself go, no wonder nobody else considers you pretty. 9/10th's of the time it's just unhealthy living, lack of exercise and poor diet.

Julie Chen pic... different hair, different makeup and lighting. Seems like most before and after pics are specifically chosen in best/worse cases possible whether it be "look how much better", or "look how poorly this celeb has aged".

She probably only needed to lose a few pounds, as do most people even if they think their weight is "fine". If you don't care if you're attractive, don't bother trying to be but don't do stupid things to compensate.

I recall some video I saw on youtube a while back, don't ask how I got there, wasn't looking for the topic but it's youtube. Anyway some near if not obese middle aged woman had the absurd notion that the change she needed to be attractive, based on what porn stars look like, was labiaplasty reduction surgery. I was sitting there thinking who the hell wants to get far enough into a relationship with her to see that, especially if she's also dumb enough to think that's the difference. I am not advocating that women should strive to look like pron stars. There is no surgery I am in favor of. Just don't!

Clubbing, it's self perpetuating. Get up, get out there, get some exercise. Practically nobody looks better as a result of sitting on their butt.

 

[dainthomas]

The reason plastic surgery is so lucrative in SK is because now all of these ugly people keep having ugly kids, often to the confusion of the non-altered parent (if that exists), so now the new ugly kids need surgery.

There was a Chinese guy who left his (apparently hot) wife and sued her because it turns out she'd had surgery before they met. He found out when the kids started coming out looking like trolls and he did some digging. There were even pictures with the article, which I can't find at the moment. Let's just say that surgeon would get the Nobel Prize for plastic surgery if there was one.

 

[purbeast0]

This article has quite a few holes.

She claims to have some super hot body, one that is better than most her age.

Then she claims to be going to her friends 21st birthday, so I think it's safe to assume that she is around the age of 21 years as well.

Well I remember when I was 21 years old and going clubbing, pretty much 75% of the chicks had hot bodies. So claiming to have a better body than that, that would put her in the butterface category.

And butterfaces have just as much success at a club as chicks with the same type of body that have a hot face, since all you're trying to do at a club is feel up on chicks and hook up anyways.

Oh and then the claim that the photographer was cropping her out? I call bullshit on that too. I've seen plenty of promo pictures from clubs that have ugly and fat chicks on them, so they don't discriminate.

Way too many holes in this story, sounds like total bullshit.

 

[kage69]

Anyone who's ever had acne for a decent amount of time can probably relate.

This.

 

[rh71]

The reason plastic surgery is so lucrative in SK is because now all of these ugly people keep having ugly kids, often to the confusion of the non-altered parent (if that exists), so now the new ugly kids need surgery.

Interesting for sure.

 

[Muse]

I don't know but I watched a fabulous documentary a couple weeks ago about Iris Apfel called "Iris." In it she explains (toward the end) that she's never liked "pretty." She said that if all a girl has going for her is pretty, she's going to be disappointed down the line. She wasn't pretty but she had style and was a great success and is still a great success at over 90. I highly recommend seeing "Iris."

 

[Muse]

luckily i have boys.. if i have girls, i would either worry if they are too pretty (then the boys would come knocking the door down). or if the girls are too ugly.

It's better if you can see beneath the surface with people. That saying "beauty is only skin deep" is heard very often for a good reason.

 

[Charmonium]

I don't know but I watched a fabulous documentary a couple weeks ago about Iris Apfel called "Iris." In it she explains (toward the end) that she's never liked "pretty." She said that if all a girl has going for her is pretty, she's going to be disappointed down the line. She wasn't pretty but she had style and was a great success and is still a great success at over 90. I highly recommend seeing "Iris."

I agree with that completely. I find people who might be considered something less than attractive to be very much the opposite pretty regularly. What hooks me is partly appearance but mostly how they act. Some women have a quiet sort of grace that transcends their appearance. They're a pleasure to watch and listen to.

On the other hand, I've also known a few objectively beautiful women. You learn pretty quickly that being interesting being pretty tend to be inversely related. I've never met someone like that who apart from being pretty was also alluring.

I think part of the problem is that at some point you become so conscious of your perceived defects that you lose the confidence you need to actually be yourself.

 

[Sonikku]

There was a Chinese guy who left his (apparently hot) wife and sued her because it turns out she'd had surgery before they met. He found out when the kids started coming out looking like trolls and he did some digging. There were even pictures with the article, which I can't find at the moment. Let's just say that surgeon would get the Nobel Prize for plastic surgery if there was one.

That was fake. It ruined a model's career.