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What IT Cert Makes you Jealous?

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Salary means shit depending on where you live. Certifications mean shit unless you're a contractor.
 
its pretty easy to make it above 100$k as a developer by the age of 30, if you are good and are willing to jump around between companies

who knows, maybe the same is true for IT as well.

it's funny because i originally wanted to go into IT, but now i wouldn't consider it. it is just too generic and not business-specific enough.
 
yeah 100k is pretty average for a senior level developer (or below average). but the question is how much above 100k can you get? and then you have the benefits as well. at this point, benefits are pretty much more important than salary to me.

it's easy to find a developer that is senior. finding a GOOD developer that is senior is the tricky part.
 
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brianmanahan said:
it's funny because i originally wanted to go into IT, but now i wouldn't consider it. it is just too generic and not business-specific enough.
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That's highly dependent on the company and can actually be an advantage. Also, many companies are eliminating custom applications and are turning to off-the-shelf software with business-specific customizations (ERP is an example). Custom applications are obviously more tailored to the business, but cost and maintenance is too much for many companies to bear especially when it turns out the applications end up not being used enough to justify it.

The main issue with IT and software development these days, IMO, is that PMs who have no technical experience are given way too much influence on projects.
 
Yeah, I'd kill for a VCDX6 once it comes out. You know that will be worth a fortune a few months from now when businesses start upgrading.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
The main issue with IT and software development these days, IMO, is that PMs who have no technical experience are given way too much influence on projects.
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This. When neither your bosses or PM's have any technical knowledge and are making decisions (including purchasing) w/o consulting the people who do know, it creates some issues. Going through that right now.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
That's highly dependent on the company and can actually be an advantage. Also, many companies are eliminating custom applications and are turning to off-the-shelf software with business-specific customizations (ERP is an example). Custom applications are obviously more tailored to the business, but cost and maintenance is too much for many companies to bear especially when it turns out the applications end up not being used enough to justify it.

The main issue with IT and software development these days, IMO, is that PMs who have no technical experience are given way too much influence on projects.
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Stop letting your current prejudices get in the way of your judgment. I would argue that it's more management's fault rather than the PMs. PMs just do management's bidding anyway 😛

At a recent high level CIO/CFO panel with a number of public companies the sentiment in the room was that they couldn't find enough people who understand both IT and other key business areas. They stressed that future of technology is not just about being able to apply it in a vacuum. Rather, it's about being able to use it conjunction with an existing skill set to solve difficult business problems. For example, all the CFOs on the panel were looking for folks with both systems and finance expertise to build out their business intelligence, reporting, and forecasting capabilities. It is not uncommon to hear offers in the 200k+ range for people with the right experience around Chicago.

So the key take away for anyone looking to get involved with IT is that understanding the the technology is not enough anymore. It is important to differentiate yourself to the market. This can be done in many different ways and certs are just one of those ways.
 
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At a recently high level CIO/CFO panel with number public companies the sentiment in the room was that they couldn't find enough people who understand both IT and other key business areas. They stressed that future of technology is not just about being able to apply it in a vacuum. Rather, it's about being able to use it conjunction with an existing skill set to solve difficult business problems. For example, all the CFOs on the panel were looking for folks with both systems and finance expertise to build out their business intelligence, reporting, and forecasting capabilities. It is not uncommon to hear offers in the 200k+ range for people with the right experience around Chicago.
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By chance do you know what titles such a position would be named? While job searching before there have been "IT business analyst" positions that have popped up but the salary has always been lower than pure systems IT positions so I always went the more technical route.
 
steppinthrax said:
The sad thing about certification exams is that most people who get them get them to use them as a "front" for expertise. In addition many people who get them CHEAT like hell. I'm not going to mention the companies, but with a credit card and google you can pretty much purchase exam questions and study those.

In addition many people simply do a rough study of the material then study exam dumps. As a result certs lose their credibility.
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Totally agreed, but that is why I would say the CCIE which requires a hands on lab is the most impressive, but still nothing to envy or get jealous over.
 
Mide said:
By chance do you know what titles such a position would be named? While job searching before there have been "IT business analyst" positions that have popped up but the salary has always been lower than pure systems IT positions so I always went the more technical route.
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The market as a whole still hasn't figured out what to call these functional positions. In general you want to look for something like "Finance Systems Manager" or "Analytics Manager". Keep in mind that most of these jobs are rarely posted online and are sourced via networking.
 
brianmanahan said:
if you are good and are willing to jump around between companies

who knows, maybe the same is true for IT as well.

it's funny because i originally wanted to go into IT, but now i wouldn't consider it. it is just too generic and not business-specific enough.
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it can be cake if the admin before you set everything up properly and documented everything semi well. After awhile you can automate so many things and you know every normal problem that arises and which now takes 5 min at most to fix.

If you stay long enough and learn the particulars of the system and requirements you can streamline it to under 20 hours of work. If a new guy went in, it might take him 60+ hours even if 90% of the usual problems are documented.
 
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