What is your favorite Anti-Bush Outrage?

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Druidx

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You've seen it a thousand time but here is my cut and paste job for the 1001 time.
Yeah.. I broke a 1000 times of saying the exact same thing.
Mission Accomplished
I wish you and the 9-11 truth-ers had your own private forum to post your rants in, it would say the rest of us so much time.
 

Harvey

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I wish you and the 9-11 truth-ers had your own private forum to post your rants in, it would say the rest of us so much time.

The OP's title is What is your favorite Anti-Bush Outrage? I posted mine. You can take your wish that I would post elsewhere and shove it up your rosey red rectum.

If you disagree with what I say in my posts, prove your point with facts and credible links. If you can't,TOUGH SHIT! All of your wishes are just so much bullshit, but they do nothing to counter the fact that George W. Bush and his criminal gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers and general incompetents are the worst criminals ever to hold the executive branch of the U.S. governement.

If you have a problem with that, it's your problem, not mine. And you do NOT speak for "the rest of us."
 

StageLeft

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Although the topic is somewhat funny it also does a disservice to a sh*t of a president by making too much light of 8 years of horrendous leadership. He is funny only in regard to how bad he was. He did after all engage in two wars, neither of which are (still) going well. In every major area things were worse than him.
 

Siddhartha

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Followed by seven years of "minor" military operations in Iraq that, to date, has left 4,413 American troops dead and tens of thousands more American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life and squandered trillions of dollars in current and future debt our great great grandchildren will still be paying long after we're gone from this planet.

Along the way, your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief ordered other "minor" military operations that included torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by American troops, and by hired whores, euphamistically labeled as "contractors," and their good buddies from Haliburton/KBR, who fraudulantly overcharged the American people for shoddy work and materials, including facilities so piss poorly built that they killed yet more American troops.

To respond to the OP's question, my biggest outrage is that the Bushwhackos have not been charged tried and convicted for their crimes, including:

1. TREASON

2. MURDER

3. LYING TO CONGRESS

4. OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

5. WAR CRIMES

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1. TREASON

In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

The Constitution of the United States, Art. III defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort.

Here's another definition


If you don't consider offering only a continuous string of ever changing lies as justification for taking the nation into a war that has squandered thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars in current and future debt, or illegal, nconstitutional unwarranted spying against American citizens to be a betrayal of trust or confidence, please tell us what it is. :eek:

Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution provides that each president shall recite the following oath:



The Vice President also swears of affirms a similar oath. Since the day Bush and Cheney took office, they and their henchmen have waged an aggressive war against the rights guaranteed to all American citizens under the U.S. Constitution.

How is that not a violation of their oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?

How is that not a violation of allegiance toward one's country or the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies?

Even if you don't believe that in so doing, they have committed treason, they have most definitely violated their oaths of office. :|

2. MURDER

Under Federal and most state statutes, one definition of murder is committing an act in callous, reckless or wanton disregard or depraved indifference for the safety of others that, in fact, causes the death of another. One foreseeable consequence of war is death... in fact, many deaths. As noted, above, as of August 5, 2010, your George W. Bush and his criminal cabal have murdered 4,413 American troops and left tens of thousands more wounded, scarred and disabled for life in his war of LIES in Iraq. :'(

All of the American casualties did not occur in one cataclysmic event. They happened over the years we since the Bushwhackos started their illegal war. If you questionwhether their actions constitute callous, reckless or wanton disregard or depraved indifference for the safety of others, it begs the question of how many times, and over what period, can one consider excusing those ongoing, repeated acts that continue to raise the number of dead and wounded Americans on a daily basis. At what point does it shock the conscience sufficiently to cross the threshold from being 4,094 cases of mere negligent homicide, which is another criminal offense? :eek:

3. LYING TO CONGRESS

In case you didn't know it, lying to Congress is a felony even if it is not done under oath. The following list of public lies are the same ones the Bushwhackos fed to Congress to convince them to authorize their war of LIES.
  • "Iraq is busy enhancing its capabilities in the field of chemical and biological agents, and they continue to pursue an aggressive nuclear weapons program. These are offensive weapons for the purpose of inflicting death on a massive scale, developed so that Saddam Hussein can hold the threat over the head of any one he chooses. What we must not do in the face of this mortal threat is to give in to wishful thinking or to willful blindness."
    Vice President Dick Cheney, 8/29/02

  • "Some have argued that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent - that Saddam is at least 5-7 years away from having nuclear weapons. I would not be so certain. And we should be just as concerned about the immediate threat from biological weapons. Iraq has these weapons."
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/18/02

  • "No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/19/02

  • "This man poses a much graver threat than anybody could have possibly imagined."
    George W. Bush, 9/26/02

  • "The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
    George W. Bush, 10/2/02

  • "There's a grave threat in Iraq. There just is."
    George W. Bush, 10/2/02

  • "There are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."
    George W. Bush, 10/7/02

  • "The Iraqi regime is a serious and growing threat to peace."
    George W. Bush, 10/16/02

  • "There is real threat, in my judgment, a real and dangerous threat to American in Iraq in the form of Saddam Hussein."
    George W. Bush, 10/28/02

  • "I see a significant threat to the security of the United States in Iraq."
    George W. Bush, 11/1/02

  • "I would look you in the eye and I would say, go back before September 11 and ask yourself this question: Was the attack that took place on September 11 an imminent threat the month before or two months before or three months before or six months before? When did the attack on September 11 become an imminent threat? Now, transport yourself forward a year, two years or a week or a month...So the question is, when is it such an immediate threat that you must do something?"
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 11/14/02

  • "Saddam Hussein is a threat to America."
    George W. Bush, 11/3/02

  • "The world is also uniting to answer the unique and urgent threat posed by Iraq whose dictator has already used weapons of mass destruction to kill thousands."
    George W. Bush, 11/23/02

  • "The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American. They not only have weapons of mass destruction, they used weapons of mass destruction...That's why I say Iraq is a threat, a real threat."
    George W. Bush, 1/3/03

  • "Saddam Hussein possesses chemical and biological weapons. Iraq poses a threat to the security of our people and to the stability of the world that is distinct from any other. It's a danger to its neighbors, to the United States, to the Middle East andgto the international peace and stability. It's a danger we cannot ignore. Iraq and North Korea are both repressive dictatorships to be sure and both pose threats. But Iraq is unique. In both word and deed, Iraq has demonstrated that it is seeking the means to strike the United States and our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction."
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/20/03

  • "Iraq poses a serious and mounting threat to our country. His regime has the design for a nuclear weapon, was working on several different methods of enriching uranium, and recently was discovered seeking significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/29/03

  • "Well, of course he is.&#8221;
    White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett responding to the question &#8220;is Saddam an imminent threat to U.S. interests, either in that part of the world or to

    Americans right here at home?&#8221;, 1/26/03

  • Iraq poses "terrible threats to the civilized world."
    Dick Cheney, 1/30/03

  • Iraq "threatens the United States of America."
    Dick Cheney, 1/30/03

  • Iraq is "a serious threat to our country, to our friends and to our allies."
    Dick Cheney, 1/31/03

  • "This is about imminent threat."
    White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 2/10/03

  • "The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are a threat to the security of free nations."
    George W. Bush, 3/16/03

  • "The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder."
    George W. Bush, 3/19/03

  • "It is only a matter of time before the Iraqi regime is destroyed and its threat to the region and the world is ended."
    Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke, 3/22/03

  • "The threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction will be removed."
    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 3/25/03

  • "We gave our word that the threat from Iraq would be ended."
    George W. Bush 4/24/03

  • "Absolutely."
    White House spokesman Ari Fleischer answering whether Iraq was an "imminent threat," 5/7/03

  • "Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United States because we removed him, but he was a threat...He was a threat. He's not a threat now."
    George W. Bush, 7/2/03

  • Iraq was "the most dangerous threat of our time."
    White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 7/17/03

  • "We ended the threat from Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
    George W. Bush, 7/17/03

  • "There's no question that Iraq was a threat to the people of the United States."
    White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan, 8/26/03

  • We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the &#8217;90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization.
    Dick Cheney, 9/14/2003

  • "Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
    George W. Bush, 1/28/2003 State of the Union Address

  • "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
    George W. Bush, 1/28/2003 State of the Union Address

  • "We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
    Dick Cheney, 3/16/2003 on &#8220;Meet the Press&#8221;

  • We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in &#8217;93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of &#8217;93. And we&#8217;ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven.
    Dick Cheney, 9/14/2003 on "Meet The Press"

You can continue with info about more lies and deception as documented in the 9-11

Commission Report from 2004
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If that's not enough for you, we can move on to admin quotes about the mysteriously disappearing communications between the Whitehouse and Gonzo the Clown and his lackeys at the Department of Justice and their lies about a host of their other lies, failures and deceptions.

Want more? No problem.

  • The "intelligence" fed to Congress and the American people was cherry picked and directed from the top.
  • Rumsfeld set his own parallel "intelligence" operation within DOD when the CIA and FBI couldn't tell him what he wanted to hear.

  • There was no yellow cake uranium in Niger.

  • There were no aluminum tubes capable of being used in centrifuges process nuclear material.

  • There were no facilities for making nerve gas or biological weapons.

  • There were no long range rockets.

  • There were no WMD's.

  • There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq.

They ignored any information from competent internal sources that ran counter to their ambitions:

  • They ignored all warnings about the possiblity of an attack like 9/11, despite explicit warnings from people like Richard Clarke, former terrorisim advisor to Presidents Reagan, Bush Sr. and Clinton. Richard Clarke also warned Bush that Saddam probably was not tied to 9/11.

    The Bushwhackos didn't want to hear that so they did what any good exec would do -- They fired him.

  • They claimed their pre-war planning included plenty of troops to handle foreseeable problems in the aftermath of their invasion, despite warnings from Army Chief of Staff, Eric Shinseki that they would need around 400,000 troops to do the job.

    The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good exec would do -- They fired him.

  • Before Bush started his war of lies, Ambassador Joseph Wilson was sent to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium. He returned and informed that the reports were false.

    The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good adminstration would do. They outed his wife, Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIA operative, blowing off her value to our national security and endangering her life and the lives of everyone who ever worked with her anywhere in the world.

Need more lies? Try these:



Before Bush started his war of lies, Ambassador Joseph Wilson was sent to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium. He returned and informed them that the reports were false, and that several European intelligence agencies had thoroughly discredited the source for the reports.

The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good adminstration would do. They outed his wife, Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIA operative, blowing off her value to our national security and endangering her life and the lives of everyone who ever worked with her anywhere in the World.


Note the date -- September 19, 2002, BEFORE they launched their war of LIES. As noted, above,
  • There were no facilities for making nerve gas or biological weapons.

  • There were no long range rockets.

  • There were no WMD's.

  • There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Even Colin Powell has since said he strongly questioned the "evidence" the Bushwhackos were pimping to Congress and the American people before he gave his infamous dog and pony show at the U.N.



You can pick and choose from the examples in the article, but remember George Tenet's "slam dunk?" Remember the infamously unreliable testimony from "Curveball? :roll;

Powell also told columnist, Robert Scheer that he and his department&#8217;s top

experts never believed that Iraq posed an imminent nuclear threat
, but that the president followed the misleading advice of Vice President Dick Cheney and the CIA in making the claim.



4. OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

The Bushwhackos have continually withheld evidence from Congress regarding Whitehouse involvement with anything and everything from Alberto Gonzales' communications to their involvement with outing covert CIA operative, Valerie Plame, to their direct involvement with the CIA's use of torture and the subsequent destruction of the tapes showing them in the act of committing that torture.

5. WAR CRIMES

George W. Bush, Dickwad Cheney, Alberto Gonzales and others authorized and encouraged American intelligence agencies, military personnel and private contractors to commit gross violations of human rights, including TORTURE, in violation of international laws and obligations under the Geneva Conventions, which Berto the Clown Gonzales derided as "quaint."

If you're not outraged, WTF is wrong with you? :confused: :mad:

Summed up nicely.
 
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Zebo

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You could make same arguments about any wartime president HARV ... Off top of my head....Lincoln rounded up 10's of thousands with alleged southern sympathies and shut down newspapers. Truman nuked and fire bombed whole cities killing millions of civilians. FDR put Japanese in concentration camps. Johnston, nuff said.

It seems presidents are above the law when a war is going down. SC even says so quite often in their rulings. Like recently when The Obama administration won the legal right to hold its terrorism suspects indefinitely.
 

StageLeft

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I find Harvey's "cabal of traitors" posts not always helpful but after years of scouring the net (it would seem) the quotes he uses above are quite damning. To be honest it's fvcking amazing that Bush isn't reviled to a greater degree. I find the argument easy to make that his incompetent and/or outright deceit (indeed, a combination if we're being fair) is directly to blame for the loss of tens of thousands of lives, not just thousands of Americans, but tens of thousands of Iraqis.

There was an obvious concerted campaign to lie to the American people and the shameful thing is it was done out in the open with a disregard for decency and law. That based on a bet--a good one because his administration was right--that even if caught in their bullsh*t lies nothing would really happen to them. And it didn't. And fvcking hell they even got a second election won afterward. And yet the response by many after the disappointing, underwhelming presidency of Obama, is that some in fact want Bush back. Who the fvck are you kidding?
 

Zebo

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We ought to all be up in arms to "take our country back" - In every way that matters, the separation between government and corporations/elite is nonexistent, especially so when it comes to the Military Industrial complex, security surveillance State, banking, oil, insurance and pharma. They all lie, cheat, steal, and don't represent the Constitution or ROL faithfully. Harv has a pretty big hard on for Bush but i see it as business as usual. Maybe Bush just popped his innocence cherry.

Obama is assassinating US citizens w/o due process, on his word.
Obama started two more wars.
Obama maintains all Bush NSA spying policies and expanded them.
Obama still does renditions and fights for them to be legal with Keagan doing the fighting, now a SC justice.
Obama is hammering whistle blowers like none other.
etc etc etc.
 
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Siddhartha

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We ought to all be up in arms to "take our country back" - In every way that matters, the separation between government and corporations/elite is nonexistent, especially so when it comes to the Military Industrial complex, security surveillance State, banking, oil, insurance and pharma. They all lie, cheat, steal, and don't represent the Constitution or ROL faithfully. Harv has a pretty big hard on for Bush but i see it as business as usual. Maybe Bush just popped his innocence cherry.

Obama is assassinating US citizens w/o due process, on his word.
Obama started two more wars.
Obama maintains all Bush NSA spying policies and expanded them.
Obama still does renditions and fights for them to be legal with Keagan doing the fighting, now a SC justice.
Obama is hammering whistle blowers like none other.
etc etc etc.

Those are your favorite Anti-Bush Outrages?
 

Zebo

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Those are your favorite Anti-Bush Outrages?

I already answered. PP1. I was just commenting on Skoorbs thoughts on how much longer will Americans sit by passively and watch as a tiny elite become more more powerful, greedier, more brazenly corrupt and more unaccountable.

BTW - what's up with a 3 word reply up there and having to edit it.:p
 

GuitarDaddy

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Who is this Bush you speak of? I have heard that a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the Bush
 

StageLeft

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You can feel even better as Obama is going to bypass GWB in this category as well.
Really? He better start busting his ass because as much as I am disappointed in him he's nowhere near on course to be as terrible as Bush. He'll need at LEAST to start one terribly-managed war. At the absolute least.
 

Siddhartha

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I already answered. PP1. I was just commenting on Skoorbs thoughts on how much longer will Americans sit by passively and watch as a tiny elite become more more powerful, greedier, more brazenly corrupt and more unaccountable.

BTW - what's up with a 3 word reply up there and having to edit it.:p

My first reply was "This". Then I thought "Nicely summed up" was more appropriate.
 

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Even Bush realizes he's so unpopular that he's delayed the publishing of auto biography so as not to remind people he was a Republican before this November's election. Also he kindly does not campaign for any Republicans for the same reason.
 

Druidx

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I find Harvey's "cabal of traitors" posts not always helpful but after years of scouring the net (it would seem) the quotes he uses above are quite damning.
Yes quite damning, just like these which he purposefully leave out.
http://myuploadpage.com/Harvey/TheLyingCabal.htm
Intellectual dishonesty FTW.

If someone is going to blame Bush for perpetrating the Iraq WMD lie, they should at least explain why everyone else was saying the same thing years before Bush even became president.

Keep spamming your cut-n-paste hatchet job, I'll sure it's only a matter of days before they bring Bush up on charges.
LMAO
 

hal2kilo

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Ignored Richard Clarkes warnings that they needed to pick-up at least where Clinton left off in watching out for an attack on the U.S by Al-Queda.
 

ericlp

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the best was miserable failure google bomb ... That was before he really started fucking up tho. Most people were like sheep at that point...

Then they did the unthinkable! Voted the fool in for another 4 years! Egad!

And in the last year of his second term google pulled the plug on miserable failure linking it to his picture. Boooooo!

Edit, second runner up was when Chris Rock told the bush joke,

George Bush has fucked up so bad, he made it hard for a white man to run for president!
 
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Yes quite damning, just like these which he purposefully leave out.
http://myuploadpage.com/Harvey/TheLyingCabal.htm
Intellectual dishonesty FTW.

If someone is going to blame Bush for perpetrating the Iraq WMD lie, they should at least explain why everyone else was saying the same thing years before Bush even became president.

Keep spamming your cut-n-paste hatchet job, I'll sure it's only a matter of days before they bring Bush up on charges.
LMAO
Although the sources of insanity are not few Bush was the one who used this rhetoric as reason to start a completely cluster fvcked war, so he gets special attention.
 

Druidx

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Just give a free pass to congress especially to all the members who later got elected or re-elected on a anti-bush/anti-war platform, then did nothing because it's wasn't politically expedient.
 

Harvey

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Is that going to be the title of your next song?

Thanks for asking. No, it's the sub-title to the album, "Druidx -- Ballad Of A Lame, Lying Wingnut." :cool:

I find Harvey's "cabal of traitors" posts not always helpful but after years of scouring the net (it would seem) the quotes he uses above are quite damning.

Thanks. That has been the point, all along. I've posted and updated the same list of charges, supported by credible links to facts, names, dates, quotes, events and legal citations. I save them as "macros" because they contain a lot of info with links originally formatted for the FT forums, which took a lot of time, and it took even more time to edit and re-write them when we moved to vB.

The facts haven't changed. The pool of evidence establishing the extent of their horrific crimes has only grown larger and stronger. In posting them repeatedly, I've given the wingnuts a large, standing target to attack... if they could... and after all this time, the best any of them can manage is to lie, to deny and attempt to divert attention away from the Bushwhackos' crimes, to call me out for reposting those "macros" and to call me names, but they can't still can't refute the truth in my posts.