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What is wrong with evolution?
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3chordcharlie
Diamond Member
Funny, I predict a minimum of 10 posts before even one person actually makes an argument.
Siddhartha
Lifer
For a scientist, the question is if Evolution is a slow process of change or a combination of periods of slow and rapid change. Darwin says that the process is one of slow change.
For deist who believe a god created everything, the problem with Evolution is that it does not depend on the action of a god to explain how the life we see around us and the fossil record came to be.
For deist who believe a god created everything, the problem with Evolution is that it does not depend on the action of a god to explain how the life we see around us and the fossil record came to be.
Gooberlx2
Lifer
The unanswered questions from evolution are the whole: "what started it all blah blah blah". (of course the same question could be asked of the concept of "God"...what made God? How did God come to exist in the first place?)
There's actually no reason (aside stubborn and strict interpretation of a man-made text) that evolution and religion can't co-exist perfectly fine.
There's actually no reason (aside stubborn and strict interpretation of a man-made text) that evolution and religion can't co-exist perfectly fine.
BrokenVisage
Lifer
Evolution > Spontaneous Generation
Babbles
Diamond Member
I think the study of evolution is one of those fields where every time something may be found it just opens up doors to other questions. Basically the more we know, the more questions we have.
I think a possible doubt to evolution would come to the statistic probability of things happening. Just about every organism on the planet shares some DNA, so that points to what amounts to everything in the world having a common ancestor (I read something recently stating that humans and dandelions share ~70% of our DNA). So for one organism to differentiate into the huge astronomical different species that have existed, both now and in the past, does beg the question of how likely that is to happen.
Then one has to address possible concepts like punctuated equilibrium and what factors (natural or divine) would cause an "explosion" of speciation followed by little change. Why and how would nature cause every single organism in the world to experience evolution then all of sudden stagnate?
Just for the record I work as a research scientist (analytical chemistry though) and I would not say I "believe" in evolution because I do not like using that term "believe" but rather I understand, acknowledge and accept it. I just wanted to point out what the OP was asking for: possible hang-ups with evolution; devil's advocate I suppose.
I think a possible doubt to evolution would come to the statistic probability of things happening. Just about every organism on the planet shares some DNA, so that points to what amounts to everything in the world having a common ancestor (I read something recently stating that humans and dandelions share ~70% of our DNA). So for one organism to differentiate into the huge astronomical different species that have existed, both now and in the past, does beg the question of how likely that is to happen.
Then one has to address possible concepts like punctuated equilibrium and what factors (natural or divine) would cause an "explosion" of speciation followed by little change. Why and how would nature cause every single organism in the world to experience evolution then all of sudden stagnate?
Just for the record I work as a research scientist (analytical chemistry though) and I would not say I "believe" in evolution because I do not like using that term "believe" but rather I understand, acknowledge and accept it. I just wanted to point out what the OP was asking for: possible hang-ups with evolution; devil's advocate I suppose.
Gooberlx2
Lifer
So you're kind of a deist? In the sense that you believe a diety setup the rules and simply let the ball start rolling? Divine Intervention, and all that really isn't an important part of the deal (but that's not to say it can't or doesn't happen)?
Personally I'm agnostic. I strongly believe in evolution, but my thoughts on a deity or deities aren't as concrete. All in all, I just don't concern myself with it much since I don't know and never will know.
FrustratedUser
Lifer
Truth.
It's only the religious zealots who claims that.
*pulls out lawnchair*
Siddhartha
Lifer
This is true of all science. It provides the best explanation for observed phenomenon based on the best information and technology available. The explanation changes when better information and technology becomes available.
here's the thing... biology isn't really ordered. it works, but so does water collecting in basins to form lakes. we recognize them as lakes in the same way we recognize creatures. the only reason there is an appearance of order there is because the human brain tries to find a pattern in everything. thus, the whole 'smash a watch, put the parts into a bag, and shake it until a watch comes out' analogy doesn't really fit. it's more like: put a pile of dirt into a bag, shake it around some, and then dump it on the ground. if it has 1 peak it's an evolutionary failure, if it has 2 its a winner. or maybe if its ovoid its a winner, but linear it's a loser.
the way my biology teacher taught evolution in high school (she was a devout baptist so called it change over time) we all got graph paper and filled in squares based on random dice throws. then there would be certain tests between tosses, and if your design passed you got to move onto the next test. the test would be something like, your organism has a body cavity, or it has an arm.
Survival of the fittest is misstated. It should be extinction of the unfittest. There is no evidence of any evolution ever having happened beyond extrapolation and conjecture. But there are many species that have gone extinct.
Both evolution and inteligent design are theories, and as such, they are both probably wrong.
Both evolution and inteligent design are theories, and as such, they are both probably wrong.
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