What is wrong with being sexist?

[mikeymikec]

I said I do not judge them.

You said you 'compliment' them. That's a judgement. Positive or negative, they didn't ask you for your opinion. No, really, they didn't. Just like the passed-out woman is not giving you consent, the tight top isn't a sign of consent either unless it says "honk if you love my boobs!" or the woman wearing it is saying that.

What you're doing is creepy and it gives guys a bad rep.

 

[JulesMaximus]

If I walked around with my dick knowingly hanging out the front of my pants would I be right to throw a fit when people stared at my crotch?

If I did so would it be reasonable to assume I wanted attention?

It would be reasonable to assume you had mental issues and wanted attention from law enforcement.

 

[Texashiker]

What you're doing is creepy and it gives guys a bad rep.

I did not say I was doing it.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[mikeymikec]

I did not say I was doing it.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35559143&postcount=13

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35560335&postcount=43

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35560364&postcount=45

But surely if it's all harmless, your wife is just being silly about this, right? These women are *asking* you to ogle / judge them by wearing tight clothes, it's an obligation surely? It means nothing, right?

But, just like you know women better than I do, because they're all the same, all guys are the same too, so you enjoy judging and ogling women.

 

[Texashiker]

But surely if it's all harmless, your wife is just being silly about this, right? These women are *asking* you to ogle / judge them by wearing tight clothes, it's an obligation surely? It means nothing, right?

I do not understand why you keep using the word "judge."

Why are you implying I do this with my wife? I have already clearly stated that I do talk to women like that. If I was not married, sure, I might tell a woman she has a nice ass. If she does not like it, cover her ass up.

They may not be asking to be ogled, but when you are in public you are fair game.

 

[mikeymikec]

I do not understand why you keep using the word "judge."'

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35560457&postcount=51

Why are you implying I do this with my wife?

Err, no, every time I've talked about random people in the street.

I have already clearly stated that I do talk to women like that.

Typo or Freudian slip?

They may not be asking to be ogled, but when you are in public you are fair game.

So in order for women to avoid getting regularly judged and/or ogled, they should actively avoid these unwarranted advances? Stay at home? Cover every inch of their bodies in loose garments? Disguise themselves as men?

 

[Texashiker]

Since you refuse to explain why you keep referring to the word "judge", I am going to start ignoring your references.

So in order for women to avoid getting regularly ogled, they should actively avoid these unwarranted advances?
Stay at home? Cover every inch of their bodies in loose garments? Disguise themselves as men?

Uh, yea.

When in public you are fair game. Anyone can look at you and in a lot of states take your picture without your permission.

If someone compliments your car or truck, people usually say think you. That is a nice set of rims on that truck. Thank you.

Compliment a woman because she has a nice ass, and all of a sudden its an unwarranted advance? That is a nice ass. That is a sexist unwanted advance.

 

[mikeymikec]

How many times do I have to point it out where I explained why I'm using the word 'judge'? Can't you click on a link?

You said you 'compliment' them. That's a judgement. Positive or negative, they didn't ask you for your opinion.

Uh, yea.

When in public you are fair game.

Perhaps you should look at countries where women are obliged to cover every inch of their bodies 'lest they tempt men', to see where your douchebag philosophy leads when left unchecked.

Anyone can look at you

So if you equate ogling and judging with 'looking', then presumably you wear a blindfold in public and led around by your wife, lest you end up looking at anyone? If not, then spare me the bullshit in comparing what this is actually about to something entirely innocent.

If someone compliments your car or truck, people usually say think you.

Ditto, unless you're rather intimately attached to your vehicle. Doesn't your wife have a problem with that?

Compliment a woman because she has a nice ass, and all of a sudden its an unwarranted advance?

To use your words, "Uh, yea". That's why your wife isn't OK with it.

 

[Texashiker]

How many times do I have to point it out where I explained why I'm using the word 'judge'?

You are linking and expecting me to figure out what you are referring to.

Perhaps you should look at countries where women are obliged to cover every inch of their bodies 'lest they tempt men', to see where your douchebag philosophy leads when left unchecked.

Who has greater respect for their women, nations that sexualize women, or nations that wish their women to cover themselves?

So if you equate ogling and judging with 'looking', then presumably you wear a blindfold in public and led around by your wife, lest you end up looking at anyone? If not, then spare me the bullshit by comparing what this is actually about to something entirely innocent.

What the hell are you talking about?

Are you capable to writing a complete paragraph that makes sense?

 

[mikeymikec]

You are linking and expecting me to figure out what you are referring to.

Quoting your question with the link directly beneath it. It isn't exactly rocket science.

Who has greater respect for their women, nations that sexualize women, or nations that wish their women to cover themselves?

Lack of respect in different ways. In your opinion, women should expect to be judged on their appearance whenever they go out, and if they don't like it, they shouldn't go out. In other nations, they'll get accused of tempting/enabling male douchebag behaviour if they stray from behaviour set by men.

What the hell are you talking about?

Are you capable to writing a complete paragraph that makes sense?

Ok, I'll try this in as simple terms as possible.

You equated ogling and judging to looking (when you responded to my point on that topic), right here:

When in public you are fair game. Anyone can look at you

I posed an implied question based on that:

If those actions are the same to you, then does your wife blindfold you before taking you out in public lest you end up looking at someone?

If not, then those actions can't be the same, so stop trying to make them seem the same.

 

[Texashiker]

Lack of respect in different ways. In your opinion, women should expect to be judged on their appearance whenever they go out, and if they don't like it, they shouldn't go out. In other nations, they'll get accused of tempting/enabling male douchebag behaviour if they stray from behaviour set by men.

Women are put on display on a regular basis - miley cyrus, lady gaga, miss america, madonna, playboy magazine,,, only to name a few.

But for some reason to admire a womans beauty in real life is offensive?

 

[mikeymikec]

Women are put on display on a regular basis - miley cyrus, lady gaga, miss america, madonna, playboy magazine,,, only to name a few.

You seem to be having issues with consent again. A random woman walking down the street is not giving consent to random guys judging her on her appearance.

The women you just mentioned have consented to show themselves in certain publications and public appearances, and they capitalise on their physical attributes. They get paid rather a lot to do what they consented to do.

But for some reason to admire a womans beauty in real life is offensive?

Have you asked your wife that last question?

By letting them (random women, not your wife) know of your judgement of their appearance and/or ogling them, it's no longer passive (ie. just in your head), it's just creepy.

 

[Texashiker]

You seem to be having issues with consent again. A random woman walking down the street is not giving consent to random guys judging her on her appearance.

Like I said, if you are in public you are fair game.

 

[mikeymikec]

Like I said, if you are in public you are fair game.

I think a heck of a lot of women would disagree with you, but apparently what their wishes might be are not worthy of any respect from you.

I also suspect you would change your mind on this topic if either of the following scenarios started happening to you on a regular basis:

a) Women three or four times your age are obviously checking you out and telling you how much they'd like to tap you, etc.

b) Gay guys regularly are telling you how much they "admire your beauty" and what they would like to do with you.

People making up rules that have no negative effect on them is a situation that rarely ends well.

 

[Texashiker]

I think a heck of a lot of women would disagree with you, but apparently what their wishes might be are not worthy of any respect from you.

I dont care if they like or even respect me.

When I go outside the sun is hot. If I dont like the summer heat maybe I just need to stay inside?

 

[zinfamous]

I dont care if they like or even respect me.

I think I see your problem.

You have no self-worth.

 

[zinfamous]

By wearing a low cut, or tight fitting shirt, yea, she invited everyone to stare at her tits.

stare? no, of course not.

It's not her fault you're a post-pubescent hormonal creep.

 

[zinfamous]

To "you" it is not an issue.

There are people out there who object to women being treated as sexual objects regardless of the situation.

People are sexual beings, it happens. What I think is going on here is that you regard the value of a person as being a sexual object.

Most people object to this.

And I was referring to you and your wife. Not you and some stranger. world of difference.

 

[zinfamous]

I think they only get "offended" when guys they don't like find them beautiful and pleasurable to look at.

ah, speaking from experience?

We always knew you hated women for a reason. 😉

 

[mikeymikec]

When I go outside the sun is hot. If I dont like the summer heat maybe I just need to stay inside?

So when you said earlier that you respect women and your sense of human decency stops you from sleeping with a drunk and passed out woman, but in this case you're a mindless idiot who thinks with their penis.

I think it's more likely that your 'respect and sense of human decency' is actually a fear of the law (wrt passed out woman scenario), but since you can get away with being a mindless prick in this situation (being a douche in the street), you don't see a problem with it, but you don't do it because you fear your wife.

 

[Sulaco]

I'm trying to decide exactly where on the "Anandtech Hierarchy of Batshit Insane Users" Texashiker ranks.

I'm leaning towards one spot below Anarchist420, but there's just so many quality candidates.

 

[Texashiker]

So when you said earlier that you respect women and your sense of human decency stops you from sleeping with a drunk and passed out woman, but in this case you're a mindless idiot who thinks with their penis.

While I was working on a shed in my backyard yesterday the humidity was terrible. By the time I finished my shirt was drenched in sweat.

I think I am going to stop respecting humidity. It could be a little more understanding of my feelings.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I'm trying to decide exactly where on the "Anandtech Hierarchy of Batshit Insane Users" Texashiker ranks.

I'm leaning towards one spot below Anarchist420, but there's just so many quality candidates.

My money says he's a troll playing the long game. His ability to consistently "not get it" is too... convenient.

 

[mammador]

it's your wife, dude. patting her on the arse should be the status quo.

 

[mikeymikec]

While I was working on a shed in my backyard yesterday the humidity was terrible. By the time I finished my shirt was drenched in sweat.

I think I am going to stop respecting humidity. It could be a little more understanding of my feelings.

I'm amazed that you need this pointed out, but you're comparing the weather to the choices that human beings make.

You've also talked about double standards (that women had no hand in creating) in justification of behaviour that you consider to be reasonable.

How many more lame excuses are you going to come up with?