What is Windows Vista anyway?

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My question is, will you be able to install DX10 on XP?

no answer?

Last I heard, the answer is no. MS is rearchitecting the video subsystem significantly with XP. It is not just about moving pieces from the kernel to user mode. It is also adding a video memory manager and a scheduler (IIRC). There are no plans to backport that.

So you wont be able to play DX10 games with DX10 effects?

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My question is, will you be able to install DX10 on XP?

no answer?

Last I heard, the answer is no. MS is rearchitecting the video subsystem significantly with XP. It is not just about moving pieces from the kernel to user mode. It is also adding a video memory manager and a scheduler (IIRC). There are no plans to backport that.

So you wont be able to play DX10 games with DX10 effects?

Possibly not. Still speculation though at this point. But then again, as heavily shader loaded as things are going, not sure it will be something that will be out of the box either. I doubt that some game mfgrs will insist on it this year or next (with the exception of Halo 2).

 

[The Green Bean]

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1931918,00.asp

 

[The Green Bean]

So when is it expected to ship? Ill have to upgrade my pretty decent PC (AGP 🙁 ) for DX10.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Aharami
XP wont be obsolete for atleast another 3 - 4 years

Doubtful. XP is just as good, without the bloat. I don't see any reason for it to become obsolete.

Hahahahaha

You did'nt really say XP is w/o bloat? Bloatiest automated kiddified POS OS I've ever used. Vista will be worse.

Windows 2k is still a great OS.

Now you're talking.. 56 megs w full drivers installed..and fast.. little wonder all the futurmarkers, all catagories- use w2k for thier world records.

2k will be "obsolete" the same day XP becomes obsolete and thats the day I switch unless MS relases a tight, minimized OS between now and then..

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: stash
I'm not trying to flame you, relax. It's just a meaningless discussion on a stupid internet forum

🙂

It's a lot easier to backport random features when
a. You have no market share.
b. You have no shareholders.
c. You can do it whenever you feel like getting around to it.

and
d. you don't have to because people that are interested in it will do it themselves.
e. you design with backwards compatability in mind.
😉

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: Extelleron
From what I know it's basicly a small upgrade from Vista for the most part, just a huge upgrade visually. Everything's going to look alot nicer from what it looked like in XP. Personally I wouldnt upgrade to Vista from XP just like I wouldnt upgrade from w2000 to XP... but MS finds ways to force you to upgrade. It's only started recently, but theres's some games that only work on XP, not W. 2000, for no reason other than to force people to upgrade. Age of Empires III is an example of this. With Vista MS is already doing it with Halo 2 for PC requiring Vista. With the little amount of difference between MS's recent OS's (95 to 98, 2000 to XP) MS has to force people to upgrade in other ways than new features and upgraded performance/stability.

Not trying to be an a** but I'm curious as to what games that are out now do not run on a Win 2000 sys but will only run on Win XP?

I will Upgrade to Vista, bypassing XP when Vista releases SP1. This will insure most bugs that were present at release, won't be after SP1 🙂

I'm not worried about the high sys req's at all since I upgrade to halfway decent hardware after 1-1.5 years. I'm more worried about if the games I have today will play on the Vista platform. I'm sure they will but it still bothers me.

I miss Stonekeep (dos game). That's one game that needs to be brought back to the newer OS's. That and Carmageddon. It was'nt a Dos game but it needs to be updated as in better graphics but maintain the EXACT same gamplay!

 

[CorCentral]

??????

 

[Bluestealth]

get a dos emulator, they are killing off 16-bit because real mode and security really dont go hand in hand.
Also have fun porting that game to a new engine and updating all the textures 🙂
So far System Shock and System Shock 2 are the only games that have had enough following to attempt both.

 

[0roo0roo]

originally it was going to be based on xp and a small upgrade. part way through that beta they scrapped it and started a new

 

[Woodie]

For the record, W2K was NOT an upgrade from ME...it was an upgrade from NT. ME was a collection of patches/GUI put on Win98, to keep that code base "alive" long enough to get XP shipping in a "home edition". The Win9x kernel is what went into ME. The NT kernel (was the starting point) for 2K, then XP.

 

[Lord Banshee]

Does anyone know if Vista 64-bit will run Win32 code any better than WindowsXP 64-bit.

If i am going to upgrade to vista i will get the 64-bit but i still use and have to use 32-bit software for work and college.. so what do you think?

 

[eminemrh25]

Not a Completely New OS..

I've been using Vista (Longhorn) since Build 3683, and the progress that have been made is AMAZING!

I saw a comment in here about backporting the newer features back to Windows XP. I know of an active project in another forum that I am a member of where they are backporting a lot of stuff to XP, and it looks good so far.. Thats the same forum where they have a fully working version of XP that takes up 56mb ram total and installs in 7mins..

 

[Bluestealth]

Originally posted by: eminemrh25
Not a Completely New OS..

I've been using Vista (Longhorn) since Build 3683, and the progress that have been made is AMAZING!

I saw a comment in here about backporting the newer features back to Windows XP. I know of an active project in another forum that I am a member of where they are backporting a lot of stuff to XP, and it looks good so far.. Thats the same forum where they have a fully working version of XP that takes up 56mb ram total and installs in 7mins..

I have a DVD that installs XP + photoshop + Office + powerdvd + 40 other apps, sets up a few users, and customizes the OS a bit in 30 minutes 🙂