I thought ethanol was only used in summer fuel, so you would think we could expect relief in the coming fall/winter.Originally posted by: alent1234
i read this in investor's business daily a few weeks ago, the biggest reason for high gas prices now isn't oil but ethanol. Last year's energy bill basically outlawed MTBE and required ethanol. there is a shortage of ethanol now and will be for years to come. even if oil drops, gas will probably stay high due to ethanol pricing and then you have GM's biggest energy hogs using ethanol so that doesn't help either.
Originally posted by: Engineer
But when oil is at $70 per barrel, it certainly does effect the price of gasoline. Doesn't matter if you use it all, but the price does effect it. Speculation has driven the price of oil up over the last few years. Uncertainity created by a fvcked up middle east policy, 911 fears, etc. have driven speculation through the roof on oil. Oil prices certainly effect gasoline prices so they are indeed revelant in this discussion.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Engineer
But when oil is at $70 per barrel, it certainly does effect the price of gasoline. Doesn't matter if you use it all, but the price does effect it. Speculation has driven the price of oil up over the last few years. Uncertainity created by a fvcked up middle east policy, 911 fears, etc. have driven speculation through the roof on oil. Oil prices certainly effect gasoline prices so they are indeed revelant in this discussion.
and yet that doesn't change the fact that oil reserves being at an 8 year high would have little effect on the price of gasoline if there is no excess refining capacity.
you've already pointed out the uncertainty in the market and a whole world of other reasons for it. remember, oil prices move a lot based on very little things happening at the margin. a 2% oversupply made the whole market drop to $10 a barrel. ever watch the price of an underlying bond change with quarter point yield rate changes?Originally posted by: Engineer
And why should oil be at $70 pe barrel if inventories are at an 8 year high and WE can't refine as much of it as we used to?
Originally posted by: Eli
Seriously. What is causing the spike? I'd like to know.
It's gone up ~50 cents here in the last month.
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Engineer
But when oil is at $70 per barrel, it certainly does effect the price of gasoline. Doesn't matter if you use it all, but the price does effect it. Speculation has driven the price of oil up over the last few years. Uncertainity created by a fvcked up middle east policy, 911 fears, etc. have driven speculation through the roof on oil. Oil prices certainly effect gasoline prices so they are indeed revelant in this discussion.
and yet that doesn't change the fact that oil reserves being at an 8 year high would have little effect on the price of gasoline if there is no excess refining capacity.
And why should oil be at $70 pe barrel if inventories are at an 8 year high and WE can't refine as much of it as we used to?
Originally posted by: Eli
Seriously. What is causing the spike? I'd like to know.
It's gone up ~50 cents here in the last month.
Originally posted by: JS80
you guys are so ignorant.
First of all Iran just announced that they enriched uranium. They are now in the "nuclear club." Along with their producing a chunk of the world's oil supply and their rhetoric of wiping israel off the map and chanting "Death to America," oil futures traders are pushing prices up.
And the cherry on the topping, Nigeria is having problems too.
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Engineer
But when oil is at $70 per barrel, it certainly does effect the price of gasoline. Doesn't matter if you use it all, but the price does effect it. Speculation has driven the price of oil up over the last few years. Uncertainity created by a fvcked up middle east policy, 911 fears, etc. have driven speculation through the roof on oil. Oil prices certainly effect gasoline prices so they are indeed revelant in this discussion.
and yet that doesn't change the fact that oil reserves being at an 8 year high would have little effect on the price of gasoline if there is no excess refining capacity.
And why should oil be at $70 pe barrel if inventories are at an 8 year high and WE can't refine as much of it as we used to?
why did you bump a 3 month old thread?Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Heading towards $3.50 :thumbsup:
Enjoy :laugh:
Originally posted by: ElFenix
why did you bump a 3 month old thread?Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Heading towards $3.50 :thumbsup:
Enjoy :laugh:
