What is the war with Iraq REALLY about?

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Grasshopper27

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Ok, some of you disagree with the "official position" that it is about disarmament and WMD.

I personally think Bush wants to spread democracy and freedom to the Middle East, I think the WMD is just an excuse to get rid of Saddam. That is ok, whatever works... Saddam is an evil SOB and no one is going to miss him when he's gone.

What I can't figure out is what all the anti-war people think this is really about. Is there some reasoning that you haven't been sharing (or that I haven't been hearing)?

I know some say it is about oil, but I can't follow that logic. Maybe I've missed something, but many people said the first Gulf War was about oil, and Iraq ended up pumping far less of it, not more of it, for the 12 years since then. We didn't steal any oil, American companies were all kicked out of Iraq, etc... If that wasn't about oil, how is this one about oil?

: ) Hopper
 
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Mrburns2007

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The anti-war people are just selfish, they live in free countries that were made free by war but don't want other countries to be freed the same way.
 
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fatbaby

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It is basically about preventing another 9-11, even though we don't know if there is a link between the hijackers and saddam/saddam's regime
 
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Chadder007

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ARGH not again....lock
Everyone has already taken their positions on this issue and will not change.
...just as I have, bomb his evil arse.
 
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The only reason I am suspicious of Bush's motives is that, as far as I know, the United States has never acted militarily without either being attacked first or with economic interests in mind.
 
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dawks

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Grasshopper, you really need to stfu. Go find something else to do, or someother forums to annoy.
 
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DanJ

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Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
The anti-war people are just selfish, they live in free countries that were made free by war but don't want other countries to be freed the same way.
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LoL yea..this war isn't about liberating the Iraqi people...nice spin though.

"We should not send our troops to stop ethnic cleansing and genocide outside our strategic interest. I would not send the United States troops into
Rwanda." - George W. Bush
 
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I think Bush wants to find a new home for the palestinians and rid israel of the west bank and Gaza.
 
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Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1002089" target=blank>I thought that this has already been dicussed, and you already replied to the topic? :confused:</A>
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No, that is why foreign people and goverments don't support us.

If you are an American, why would you not support this war?

: ) Hopper
 
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Grasshopper, there is one and only one reason for the upcoming conflict. Bush is a hardcore Christian fundamentalist and he wants to get a foothold in the Middle East so that he can begin eradicating every Muslim on the face of planet Earth. He believes that if you aren't a Christian you should be dead. When he finishes with the Middle East he will move on to other parts of the world where people live who don't agree with his religious beliefs. If he stays in power long enough the whole world will be Christian, just the way God wanted it to be.

Oh, btw, he won't kill the Jews because they have a more direct line to God than he does.

Another BTW, after Bush has accomplished his goal he will be referred to as "He", not just "he".
 
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Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
The only reason I am suspicious of Bush's motives is that, as far as I know, the United States has never acted militarily without either being attacked first or with economic interests in mind.
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AFAIK, you're right. This will be the first pre-emptive war...

I think that is a good thing, people in the world should not feel like we are pushovers... If you do stupid stuff, we'll smack you with our big stick...

: ) Hopper
 
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Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Grasshopper, there is one and only one reason for the upcoming conflict. Bush is a hardcore Christian fundamentalist and he wants to get a foothold in the Middle East so that he can begin eradicating every Muslim on the face of planet Earth. He believes that if you aren't a Christian you should be dead. When he finishes with the Middle East he will move on to other parts of the world where people live who don't agree with his religious beliefs. If he stays in power long enough the whole world will be Christian, just the way God wanted it to be.

Oh, btw, he won't kill the Jews because they have a more direct line to God than he does.

Another BTW, after Bush has accomplished his goal he will be referred to as "He", not just "he".
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LOL! :D

I assume you're kidding, since your other posts on these subjets are a bit more rational...

I would agree however that Bush is very sure of his religious beliefs...

/me afraid of all "true believers"

: ) Hopper
 
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I am for war but I have asked that question to many times and if am not sure. We are going certainly due to the oil and for some instant to finish what we started in 1990. I do not know how dangerous sad am is but maybe it will stabilize Middle East (I know it will not)
 
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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
I think that is a good thing, people in the world should not feel like we are pushovers... If you do stupid stuff, we'll smack you with our big stick...
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Because everything we do and say is right.
 
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the first conflict was about when saddam took kuwait......ahem...hitler took the rheinland...............we got rid of hitler...but this time around, we didn't get rid of saddam....and he kills his own people....etc etc etc...

and yes...the oil prices here are ridiculous....my area = 2.24 for the 89 octane!! WTF! 2.50 for 91 octane (yes, so. cal = 91 octane the most expensive..)

and yes, help those iraqi people, and most of the middle east would like to have saddam out of the way anyways....too many pro's to go again't the cons of this upcoming war...
 
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Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
I think that is a good thing, people in the world should not feel like we are pushovers... If you do stupid stuff, we'll smack you with our big stick...
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Because everything we do and say is right.
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WHOA, dude, watch how you quote... for a second, I was like... WTF, I didn't say that!
 
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Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
I think that is a good thing, people in the world should not feel like we are pushovers... If you do stupid stuff, we'll smack you with our big stick...
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Because everything we do and say is right.
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No, it isn't... But we are more right than Saddam is...

: ) Hopper
 
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DanJ

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
WHOA, dude, watch how you quote... for a second, I was like... WTF, I didn't say that!
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Haha yea, edited it as soon as I saw it :)
 
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DanJ

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
I think that is a good thing, people in the world should not feel like we are pushovers... If you do stupid stuff, we'll smack you with our big stick...
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Because everything we do and say is right.
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No, it isn't... But we are more right than Saddam is...

: ) Hopper
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you said "people in the world", not just Saddam. Implying well, arrogance.
 
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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: Zakath15
The only reason I am suspicious of Bush's motives is that, as far as I know, the United States has never acted militarily without either being attacked first or with economic interests in mind.
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AFAIK, you're right. This will be the first pre-emptive war...

I think that is a good thing, people in the world should not feel like we are pushovers... If you do stupid stuff, we'll smack you with our big stick...

: ) Hopper
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The Shutzstaffeln wants you!
 
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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: rbloedow
<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1002089" target=blank>I thought that this has already been dicussed, and you already replied to the topic? :confused:</A>
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No, that is why foreign people and goverments don't support us.

If you are an American, why would you not support this war?

: ) Hopper
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If you are an American, why would you not support this war?
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Because that's what being an American is all about, democracy and Freedom of Speech, what part don't you understand Hopper? :confused:
 
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