What is the Republican response to Covid

[emperus]

Was reading articles re: India and then the vaccine hesitancy in a lot of Red states and it made me wonder what the Republican plan for Covid was.

-They don't think people should wear masks.
-They don't believe in social distancing
-They want to open up ASAP
-And they aren't pushing their voters to get the vaccine.

So, what is the plan? It's really nutty that one party that is close to having some form of power seems to be living in a alternate reality esp. in this area. I haven't heard anyone really ask someone like Ted Cruz what his plan is.

 

[Majes]

Was reading articles re: India and then the vaccine hesitancy in a lot of Red states and it made me wonder what the Republican plan for Covid was.

-They don't think people should wear masks.
-They don't believe in social distancing
-They want to open up ASAP
-And they aren't pushing their voters to get the vaccine.

So, what is the plan? It's really nutty that one party that is close to having some form of power seems to be living in a alternate reality esp. in this area. I haven't heard anyone really ask someone like Ted Cruz what his plan is.

I think we all watched the Republican response to Covid while Trump was in office. It was pretty much: Let the states fend for themselves, and watch Trump do incredibly stupid things each day.

 

[soulcougher73]

As far as i can tell they were hoping for herd immunity thru not doing anything and willing to accept many deaths as a result.

 

[Indus]

Plan?
They don't have a plan other than they want more for them and less for others.

How to achieve that? People who are not them have to die.. covid/ police shootings/ lynchings/ mass shootings/ war/ invasions.

It's all part of the plan.

 

[nakedfrog]

It's remarkably similar to their climate change plan. Pretend it's insignificant while trying to maximize profits.

 

[Stokely]

Republicans always have to have a boogeyman to blame for any problem. So right away Trump blamed Democrats, the Chinese and whatever might stick, because having a disease that you can't shake your fist at and that requires cooperation as a society is not in their playbook.

There is no reason a damn pandemic had to be politicized. At least with global warming you can see how the fossil fuel industry that the GOP loves would fight back against saving our place in the planet...but who gains from pushing people against preventing disease?

Ironically, if Trump had just said normal politician things for a few months he could have ridden Covid to a 2nd term (IMO)--just like GWB enjoyed sky-high popularity after 911. Pull together in a time of crisis, all that stuff. But he just couldn't stop being a belligerent asshole, it's the only tune he plays.

 

[Amol S.]

Blame illegal immigrants for transmission of the disease and make further false claims that this would be proof of the need for the Trump border wall.

 

[trenchfoot]

Well the conservative plan is to alienate, dehumanize, suppress and disenfranchise any and all who oppose their drive for fascist (minority party) rule over the nation. They, by their express intention of dividing the nation along party lines have found it necessary to oppose anything that would unite the nation in ways that would counter their efforts at dividing it, especially so when their despised opposition is making an attempt at unifying the nation in order to defeat a threat to the nation's security, heath and welfare.

Ironically, the conservative party's efforts at disunifying the nation is itself the real threat the nation is facing.

In the Repub's mind eye, there needs to always be a threat of some kind that they can exploit to keep their people living in fear for the simple fact that they can't offer their working class peasants anything that the Democrats want to give them, like affordable health care, essential social services, easier access to higher learning institutions, etc.

 

[dank69]

Was reading articles re: India and then the vaccine hesitancy in a lot of Red states and it made me wonder what the Republican plan for Covid was.

-They don't think people should wear masks.
-They don't believe in social distancing
-They want to open up ASAP
-And they aren't pushing their voters to get the vaccine.

So, what is the plan? It's really nutty that one party that is close to having some form of power seems to be living in a alternate reality esp. in this area. I haven't heard anyone really ask someone like Ted Cruz what his plan is.

Some form of power? Understatement of the year right there.

 

[Jaskalas]

So, what is the plan?

Well you see. Their plan is to save people by attacking masks. Because COVID is a #hoax and #masks are the real cause of death.

I was just told this by my local Trumpers.

Moral of the story is this. Crazy doesn't have plans. Crazy is just crazy.

 

[zinfamous]

As far as i can tell they were hoping for herd immunity thru not doing anything and accepting many deaths as a result.

pretty much this. The type of lessons they take from history is pretty much always "it happened this way, we're still alive, so let's just do that again."

Instead of deploying all the knowledge and tools and everything humanity has achieved in the previous 100 years when it comes to medicine and combating disease, republican voters and leaders look at the 1918 pandemic as the type of model that we should deploy again. See, we are still here, right?

Nevermind that it went on for more than 3 years, about 70 million deaths across the world to achieve herd immunity. Let's just do that again; despite having the inarguable ability now to prevent more than 95% of those types of deaths. ....let's just do that again.

So say republicans. Fuck them.

 

[outriding]

FreeDUMBs!!!!!

 

[emperus]

What do the conservatives on this board think? How do you get the economy fully open without controlling the spread of the virus through some sort of mitigation. What is the 2nd part of the plan besides all the demonization.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This is an area where I am starting to think our Republican peeps aren’t doing as bad of a job as expected. By pretty much any quantifiable measure Texas isn’t doing all that bad with COVID, Florida is similar.
This isn’t saying they’re doing great they just aren’t doing as bad as expected with lax requirements and show vaccination.
Admittedly my State Massachusetts is doing well with vaccinating and we are finally starting to see drops in the infection rate and hospital utilization. Texas isn’t that far behind as of now.

Texas:
https://covidactnow.org/us/texas-tx/?s=1778698

Florida:

U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker

Covid Act Now has real-time tracking of your community's COVID risk level. Explore how Florida is doing.

covidactnow.org

Massachusetts:

U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker

Covid Act Now has real-time tracking of your community's COVID risk level. Explore how Massachusetts is doing.

covidactnow.org

I accept that FL & TX have some increasing trends. I guess we will have a better idea in 15-30 days.
I am just saying for the few fucks they give both of those States are doing no so bad.

 

[brycejones]

As far as i can tell they were hoping for herd immunity thru not doing anything and accepting many deaths as a result.

It's remarkably similar to their climate change plan. Pretend it's insignificant while trying to maximize profits.

Pretty much this.

Did leave out though actively fight against anyone who tries to do other wise.

 

[theeedude]

Ron Johnson questions ‘big push’ to vaccinate ‘everybody’

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) in a Thursday podcast interview cast doubt on the importance of vaccinating the nation for COVID-19, saying he’s getting “highly suspicious” of the “big push to make sure …

thehill.com

Sabotage at every opportunity.

 

[brycejones]

Ron Johnson questions ‘big push’ to vaccinate ‘everybody’

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) in a Thursday podcast interview cast doubt on the importance of vaccinating the nation for COVID-19, saying he’s getting “highly suspicious” of the “big push to make sure …

thehill.com

Sabotage at every opportunity.

He is "just asking questions" "do your own research"......

These fucking assholes need to be in jail for killing their fellow citizens.

 

[BurnItDwn]

The republican plan is for death and suffering for Americans.
Their greatest virtues are needless suffering and death.
They also value incompetence, malice, ignorance, stupidity, and obedience.

Their enemies are things like
Common sense
Threat mitigation
Problem Solving

 

[Fenixgoon]

"some of you may die, and that's a sacrifice we're willing to make"

 

[rommelrommel]

Republicans always have to have a boogeyman to blame for any problem. So right away Trump blamed Democrats, the Chinese and whatever might stick, because having a disease that you can't shake your fist at and that requires cooperation as a society is not in their playbook.

Even if you find a scapegoat, it’s not like the pandemic isn’t still occurring.

> We caught the arsonist at the scene, case closed.
> Uh, can someone put the fire out?
> CASE CLOSED!

 

[ch33zw1z]

As far as i can tell they were hoping for herd immunity thru not doing anything and accepting many deaths as a result.

This. And blame anything else for it.

 

[nOOky]

What do the conservatives on this board think? How do you get the economy fully open without controlling the spread of the virus through some sort of mitigation. What is the 2nd part of the plan besides all the demonization.

Do conservatives really want the economy humming, now that Biden is in charge? King Trump predicted economic gloom and doom under Biden, so acknowledging that it might not be that bad is a yuge loss of face. It may actually somewhat come to pass as things open up and the economy improves that there will be a slight down turn in the next year or so. Hopefully not before the 2022 elections or they will crow about it.

 

[Stokely]

I live in Florida, and there is no plan for Covid other than ignoring it and pretending everything is normal. And of course going on the attack against anyone or anything that is trying to put in safety measures. That's not all on the government, it's on people that agree with that.

If the state is doing ok, I reckon it's due to possibly factors like humidity and more sunshine (both of which are not idea for the virus). It may help that there is relatively little mass transit and a lot more open air dining and bars year-round.

The only thing I will actually commend Orange county on at least--this is the county Orlando is in--is making it extremely easy for anyone to get the vaccine. My 18-year-old son just got his first shot and he could have gotten it earlier if he wasn't a lazy procrastinator. The site we used was drive-through, with appointments, and it couldn't have been smoother.
Orange county of course goes blue in elections so I reckon the smoothness is in spite of frat boy Desantis and not due to anything he is doing. I'm fully vaccinated and starting to go out again to normal places (masked up) and most people are still in masks. There's still the occasional ahole strolling past the "masks are required" signs without one. The stores are unwilling or unable to do anything about it...short of a security guard at the entrance and strolling around inside, it's understandable. Some of these freedom-loving anti-maskers would love nothing more than to be accosted for it so they can vent their righteous anger. I fully expect to hear some of their bullshit when I do an outdoor gig with my band this weekend, I'll wear a mask if I need to go to the restroom and I reckon I'll be the only one doing so.

 

[alien42]

This is an area where I am starting to think our Republican peeps aren’t doing as bad of a job as expected. By pretty much any quantifiable measure Texas isn’t doing all that bad with COVID, Florida is similar.
This isn’t saying they’re doing great they just aren’t doing as bad as expected with lax requirements and show vaccination.
Admittedly my State Massachusetts is doing well with vaccinating and we are finally starting to see drops in the infection rate and hospital utilization. Texas isn’t that far behind as of now.

Texas:
https://covidactnow.org/us/texas-tx/?s=1778698

Florida:

U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker

Covid Act Now has real-time tracking of your community's COVID risk level. Explore how Florida is doing.

covidactnow.org

Massachusetts:

U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker

Covid Act Now has real-time tracking of your community's COVID risk level. Explore how Massachusetts is doing.

covidactnow.org

I accept that FL & TX have some increasing trends. I guess we will have a better idea in 15-30 days.
I am just saying for the few fucks they give both of those States are doing no so bad.

two important factors that should be considered is that Texas doesn't have population density, except in mostly liberal cities and Florida has a ton of old people and the majority of them are now vaccinated.

 

[Muse]

Was reading articles re: India and then the vaccine hesitancy in a lot of Red states and it made me wonder what the Republican plan for Covid was.

-They don't think people should wear masks.
-They don't believe in social distancing
-They want to open up ASAP
-And they aren't pushing their voters to get the vaccine.

So, what is the plan? It's really nutty that one party that is close to having some form of power seems to be living in a alternate reality esp. in this area. I haven't heard anyone really ask someone like Ted Cruz what his plan is.

The plan is to keep people in the dark, get voters to bite on bullshit issues and ignore their best interests. A deluded constituency is the easiest to lead and satisfy.